Why hasn't William and Mary gotten rid of its DEI yet?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

There is no better school, LIAR. No better law school or undergrad, PERIOD. And yes, you don't have ill will per se, more of a sickening and embarrassing insatiable jealousy that permeates every word you type. It's sickening and you need serious help.

Seek help. (Duke was better, especially since I got a 1/2 tuition scholarship).

You didn't go to Duke, you probably went to a middling school with a 90% acceptance rate. Nice lie, though.

Sounds like UVA wise

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

DP. Youngkin actually removed the most disruptive conservative board member. If there is some movement to control administrative growth at UVA, something positive could come out of the board changes.

Not sure how this got away from a discussion of W&M.

A UVa booster went insane. In real time. While we watched.

They've been doing this all week. It's actually hilarious but I'm also pretty sure they escaped a mental asylum or need to be placed in one

You've been grieving the acceptance letter you never received for 30+ years and I'm the one who needs help? Jealousy is a sickness and you are unwell.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

There is no better school, LIAR. No better law school or undergrad, PERIOD. And yes, you don't have ill will per se, more of a sickening and embarrassing insatiable jealousy that permeates every word you type. It's sickening and you need serious help.

Seek help. (Duke was better, especially since I got a 1/2 tuition scholarship).

You didn't go to Duke, you probably went to a middling school with a 90% acceptance rate. Nice lie, though.

Okay. I’m not posting a picture of my diploma on here, so you believe whatever will help you calm down.

Also— go back on your meds.

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Inclusive Excellence (the W&M DEI programs) shouldn't be offensive to anyone

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Insane UVA troll reported to Jeff.

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Private University

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It's not private. Stop saying that.

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No, it is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Because W&M's BOV has been largely untouched by Youngkin, you'd be hard pressed to find many conservative W&M alums, and the state mostly leaves it alone tbh

+1. It manages to be very old, pretty respected and yet fly under the radar. There aren’t even sports rivalries. There is zero appetite for messing with it.

We have rivalries with UR and UVA but both are pretty one sided in terms of wins

Does W&M play any D1 sports against UVA?

Yes we play them in at least 1 sport a year. Usually football or baseball or soccer or field hockey.

Hmm. Interesting W&M parent and did not know. At any rate, that’s still not a sports rivalry in the way people love/hate Duke or UNC because basketball. That’s just ritual humiliation for W&M, which I imagine they accept with a decent attitude.

And a big paycheck.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

How dare you try to smear the name of a university (from which you were summarily rejected) out of disgusting ignorance and jealousy? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is this level of outrage and anger management issues doesn’t speak well of you or UVA.

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PP is demonstrating why many top students don’t even look at UVA.

A student who "doesn't even look at UVA" is not a 'top student' period.

Not everyone wants a bro state school, troll.

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Anonymous wrote:What part do you want to get rid of?
Diversity?
Equity ?
Inclusion?

Also, what are you talking about?

Wow. Didn't know this would strike such a cord. I was just curious, I'm not against DEI at all. I think diversity has been proven to be beneficial for institutions of all sorts and that DEI is a crucial part of ensuring diversity. I was just wondering why it is the case that other Virginia universities have gotten rid of their DEI programs while William and Mary hasn't.

You started a very trollish and argumentative way. It seemed like you were a trump troll who approves of discrimination

DP. DEI is the epitome of discrimination. Everyone should be included, regardless of their color of their skin.

What’s an example of how diversity and inclusion at W&M was discriminatory? Who was excluded through W&M’s inclusivity efforts?

Back to the topic at hand. Can anyone share a problematic DEI program or initiative from W&M?

Anyone who has an issue with "DEI" isn't really working off of facts/reality...so you probably won't get any responses.

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It will consistent with instructions from the Governor and the Board of Visitors. DEI is great in principle but execution has been misguided in the vast majority of institutions in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

How dare you try to smear the name of a university (from which you were summarily rejected) out of disgusting ignorance and jealousy? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is this level of outrage and anger management issues doesn’t speak well of you or UVA.

+1

PP is demonstrating why many top students don’t even look at UVA.

+1. When they talk about not liking the feel— it’s this crap they are referring to.

Yep. My daughter got into both UVA and WM. The feel at UVA was not quite right. She chose WM. We will find out if she made the right choice. But so far, the girls going to UVA from her school are vapid, entitled, snobby and mildly intelligent. I guess they’ll go far?

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Anonymous wrote:You anti DEI people are the worst. Heaven forbid we live in a civil society where women, non-whites, and disabled people are treated with decency and dignity. You’re the middle school bullies and mean girls that never grew up.

That’s exactly what being against “DEI” is about. It means treating *everyone* equally and fairly, with dignity and decency. Not just certain people.

You seem very confused.

Exactly. DEI is just organizational racism.

Inclusion is racist. How so?

Because DEI as implemented has 0 to do with inclusion; it’s all about separating and judging people by race.

Inclusion is separation?

Is this sort of like "War is peace" or "freedom is slavery?"

Or is this just some weird hangup of yours where you feel personally threatened by policies like this because you think you're a good person but really you are not and you haven't overcome the cognitive dissonance necessary to change that?

“Diversity is strength” sounds way more Orwellian

You struggled with the SAT verbal, didn’t you?

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Anonymous wrote:What part do you want to get rid of?
Diversity?
Equity ?
Inclusion?

Also, what are you talking about?

Wow. Didn't know this would strike such a cord. I was just curious, I'm not against DEI at all. I think diversity has been proven to be beneficial for institutions of all sorts and that DEI is a crucial part of ensuring diversity. I was just wondering why it is the case that other Virginia universities have gotten rid of their DEI programs while William and Mary hasn't.

You started a very trollish and argumentative way. It seemed like you were a trump troll who approves of discrimination

DP. DEI is the epitome of discrimination. Everyone should be included, regardless of their color of their skin.

DEI is, quite literally, inclusion of all. That's the "I" in DEI. It does not mean include at the expense of someone else. It is not quotas. It's not individual admission or hiring decisions. It's making sure people are trained, and policies promote, outreach to everyone and inclusive. It's removing artificial barriers. It's teaching people to recognize biases.

If you're going to spew dumb Shht like in your post, at least make an attempt to be informed.

Speaking of dumb "shht" - DEI epitomizes those artificial barriers you speak of. Prior to DEI, people didn't size up others and sort them into little boxes based on their race/gender/whatever. At my kids' high school, students of all races mixed and mingled and hung out together. DEI policies have now divided the student body into affinity groups, pitting one against the other, all claiming to be "victims" of this or that "microaggression." It's absolutely absurd. Thankfully, the pendulum is now swinging back, hopefully to the middle. Human beings should be celebrating their similarities and not whining about their differences. But DEI advocates, like you, seem to enjoy pointing out the myriad ways we are different rather than just treating everyone equally.
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