Why hasn't William and Mary gotten rid of its DEI yet?

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Anonymous wrote:Just don't respond to them.

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But also, report them.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

How dare you try to smear the name of a university (from which you were summarily rejected) out of disgusting ignorance and jealousy? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is this level of outrage and anger management issues doesn’t speak well of you or UVA.

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PP is demonstrating why many top students don’t even look at UVA.

+1. When they talk about not liking the feel— it’s this crap they are referring to.

Yep. My daughter got into both UVA and WM. The feel at UVA was not quite right. She chose WM. We will find out if she made the right choice. But so far, the girls going to UVA from her school are vapid, entitled, snobby and mildly intelligent. I guess they’ll go far?

DP. I have no dog in this UVA/WM fight as my DC chose VT. However, the stereotyping you're doing is really not a good look. Would you appreciate someone generalizing about the type of student who chooses W&M?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

How dare you try to smear the name of a university (from which you were summarily rejected) out of disgusting ignorance and jealousy? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is this level of outrage and anger management issues doesn’t speak well of you or UVA.

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PP is demonstrating why many top students don’t even look at UVA.

+1. When they talk about not liking the feel— it’s this crap they are referring to.

Yep. My daughter got into both UVA and WM. The feel at UVA was not quite right. She chose WM. We will find out if she made the right choice. But so far, the girls going to UVA from her school are vapid, entitled, snobby and mildly intelligent. I guess they’ll go far?

DP. I have no dog in this UVA/WM fight as my DC chose VT. However, the stereotyping you're doing is really not a good look. Would you appreciate someone generalizing about the type of student who chooses W&M?

Tbf they do on here all the time and if you call someone out you're insecure

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

How dare you try to smear the name of a university (from which you were summarily rejected) out of disgusting ignorance and jealousy? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is this level of outrage and anger management issues doesn’t speak well of you or UVA.

+1

PP is demonstrating why many top students don’t even look at UVA.

+1. When they talk about not liking the feel— it’s this crap they are referring to.

Yep. My daughter got into both UVA and WM. The feel at UVA was not quite right. She chose WM. We will find out if she made the right choice. But so far, the girls going to UVA from her school are vapid, entitled, snobby and mildly intelligent. I guess they’ll go far?

DP. I have no dog in this UVA/WM fight as my DC chose VT. However, the stereotyping you're doing is really not a good look. Would you appreciate someone generalizing about the type of student who chooses W&M?

Tbf they do on here all the time and if you call someone out you're insecure

You’re right. That does happen. But yours is not a defense for the same behavior.

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This entire thread is so disappointing to me as a parent. My kid just committed to W&M and this petty meanness is so unbecoming, it’s giving me pause. Trading insults, stereotyping students, why?

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Anonymous wrote:What part do you want to get rid of?
Diversity?
Equity ?
Inclusion?

Also, what are you talking about?

Wow. Didn't know this would strike such a cord. I was just curious, I'm not against DEI at all. I think diversity has been proven to be beneficial for institutions of all sorts and that DEI is a crucial part of ensuring diversity. I was just wondering why it is the case that other Virginia universities have gotten rid of their DEI programs while William and Mary hasn't.

You started a very trollish and argumentative way. It seemed like you were a trump troll who approves of discrimination

DP. DEI is the epitome of discrimination. Everyone should be included, regardless of their color of their skin.

What’s an example of how diversity and inclusion at W&M was discriminatory? Who was excluded through W&M’s inclusivity efforts?

Back to the topic at hand. Can anyone share a problematic DEI program or initiative from W&M?

Anyone who has an issue with "DEI" isn't really working off of facts/reality...so you probably won't get any responses.

Facts??/ Reality? You left wing sheep sure do love your indoctrination camps! Tell me - do you have a problem with institutions that receive federal or state funding requiring students to take mandatory DEI coursework in addition to everything else they need to take in order to graduate (applicable to at least 30 states under the Biden years)? Do you support the massive costs borne by students and taxpayers to administer these DEI programs at colleges and universities?

Back in 2024, the Black Student Union at the University of Michigan publicly decried the massive DEI spending at UM (to the tune of over a quarter of a BILLION dollars since 2016) - as noted in a New York Times article (notice I didn't say a FOX NEWS article). Students surveyed overwhelmingly stated that the DEI program was an abject failure.

I know, I know....but, but, but, but "racism" and "white privilege"!!!

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Most rational people - of all races - are finally realizing what a total mess DEI is. How about we just make sure to treat everyone respectfully and inclusively, regardless of the color of their skin?

Well, that's why there's DEI. 🙂

You don't know the history of America. Study it, or just read.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

DP. Youngkin actually removed the most disruptive conservative board member. If there is some movement to control administrative growth at UVA, something positive could come out of the board changes.

Not sure how this got away from a discussion of W&M.

I was pleasantly surprised when I heard Youngkin removed that member from the UVA board but then he appointed Cuccinelli. Ugh. The UVA BoV is a real threat to the continued excellence of UVA and one of the reasons my kid is leaning towards W&M instead. I hope they manage to continue to stay out of Youngkin’s attention.

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WHY does it upset you that an autistic child be allowed to take a test in a quiet room? Or that a hiring manager pay attention to having a workforce that isn’t just white straight men? Or that women be represented in management positions? Or that a an adult in a wheelchair can access a ramp to get onto their office? What the hell is wrong with you people????

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

DP. Youngkin actually removed the most disruptive conservative board member. If there is some movement to control administrative growth at UVA, something positive could come out of the board changes.

Not sure how this got away from a discussion of W&M.

I was pleasantly surprised when I heard Youngkin removed that member from the UVA board but then he appointed Cuccinelli. Ugh. The UVA BoV is a real threat to the continued excellence of UVA and one of the reasons my kid is leaning towards W&M instead. I hope they manage to continue to stay out of Youngkin’s attention.

Mr. forced Tansvaginal Ultrasound? Charming.

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UVA's BOV is not so significant at all. It's clear to anyone with sense that those trying to besmirch the name of UVA are people who were on the receiving end of summary rejections they have yet to get over. UVA's legacy has been going strong for hundreds of years and will continue to do so.