Will there be fewer applicants to Harvard, Penn, MIT next year?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. Christian here. The way Jewish kids are treated on these campuses is abhorrent.

I think a lot will go to the state flagships.

We prefer to hire students from state flagships.



Oh yeah, which one did you attend?


I’m not the PP and not Jewish but I went to HYS and I agree with the sentiment.

A kid wearing a yarmulke risks physical harm on many of the elite colleges now. A kid wearing a keffiyeh, even one that had no idea what sea the phrase is talking about, will get high fives and probably easier grading. It’s loathsome.


You are nuts. Palestinian students literally got shot walking down the street in VT. It’s ridiculous to act like all Jewish people are victims. Would you feel safer if you were an AA? I don’t think so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. Christian here. The way Jewish kids are treated on these campuses is abhorrent.

I think a lot will go to the state flagships.

We prefer to hire students from state flagships.



Oh yeah, which one did you attend?


I’m not the PP and not Jewish but I went to HYS and I agree with the sentiment.

A kid wearing a yarmulke risks physical harm on many of the elite colleges now. A kid wearing a keffiyeh, even one that had no idea what sea the phrase is talking about, will get high fives and probably easier grading. It’s loathsome.


Student at Brown was wearing a keffiyeh last month and got shot in the back. Paralyzed for life.

Whole lot of people going to hell after all of this.

Forgiveness is the only way 🙏

Anonymous
I do agree forgiveness is the way forward but the number of people refusing to see glaring antisemitism on campus is very scary, and I am not Jewish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There won’t be fewer applicants but the quality of the applicants will go down.


Yeah no. Like a PP said there are five applicants with identical stats for every one applicant who chooses to not apply. Jews are already highly overrepresented at the Ivies relative to their percentage of the US population.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all not remember when Larry Summers said some pretty awful things? Harvard endowment went up. That guy was an A$$


The only reason Gay still has a job, imo, is because Summers is protecting her. Pressure needs to be put on Summers.


Summers was protected himself. That loon was off leash for five years. The people that gave him a free pass need to come up with a way to absolve themselves before going in on Gay. Got popcorn? The wordsmithing is going to be world class for sure
Anonymous
I truly believe the Ivy schools were already in decline other than legacy kids who wouldn’t have stood a prayer otherwise. But I do think there are more smart kids today choosing NOT to go to an Ivy and in todays climate will continue to choose a diff path.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I truly believe the Ivy schools were already in decline other than legacy kids who wouldn’t have stood a prayer otherwise. But I do think there are more smart kids today choosing NOT to go to an Ivy and in todays climate will continue to choose a diff path.


They are getting more applications and the stats of those admitted are going up. I'm sure there are other ways to measure "decline" but you should explain.

I can remember actual dumpster fires over the Vietnam War. This kind of crazy stuff is almost normal at Ivy League schools. At least since the sixties.
Anonymous
Yes definitely. Not only will there be no Jewish students applying, but many non-Jewish will look elsewhere. The schools are getting blacklisted by quite a few CEOs and others will be hesitant to welcome a graduate into a diverse working atmosphere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There won’t be fewer applicants but the quality of the applicants will go down.


Yeah no. Like a PP said there are five applicants with identical stats for every one applicant who chooses to not apply. Jews are already highly overrepresented at the Ivies relative to their percentage of the US population.


I’m not just talking about Jews. I’m seeing it already among kids I know. The smart kids of all backgrounds are shying away. They don’t want to be in schools where creativity, intellectual challenges, and hard work isn’t valued.

Anonymous
LOL! Applications will go up! WASPS want their elite universities back. They fought for decades to keep Jews out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes definitely. Not only will there be no Jewish students applying, but many non-Jewish will look elsewhere. The schools are getting blacklisted by quite a few CEOs and others will be hesitant to welcome a graduate into a diverse working atmosphere.


Wall Street is not blacklisting the Wharton School. Get real.
Anonymous
It depends how long the situation lasts, but even if they see a slight decrease, it will be hard to know what caused it definitively.

The history of attitudes towards Jewish students at elite colleges is well documented. Unfortunately antisemitism on elite college campuses isn’t new and in spite of the great strides taken historically it still exists and did before Oct 7. The Washington Post recently published an exhaustive article on the history of Jewish treatment at elite colleges in light of the antisemitism seen since Oct 7.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/11/13/how-restricting-jews-created-modern-college-admissions/

In addition a 1997 study by the Anti Defamation League noted that elite colleges were a prime ground for antisemitism in spite of historical changes in treatment and advancement of Jewish students and staff at colleges. “Institutionalized discrimination against Jews is a thing of the past. Jewish students and faculty are found in great numbers at elite universities which once resisted their presence. A majority of Ivy League universities and many others now have or have had Jewish presidents. There are few if any positions in American higher education that are not open to Jewish talent. Therefore, it is paradoxical that the American college and university campus recently emerged as one of the major sites for the expression and dissemination of anti-Semitism.” https://www.adl.org/resources/report/schooled-hate-anti-semitism-campus

Other thing like overall politics in a state may have more of an impact of near future application trends as recent research shows. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3926811-one-in-four-college-applicants-avoids-entire-states-for-political-reasons/amp/

In addition dips in the college age population may also appear as a decrease in enrollment or application numbers. https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/looming-enrollment-cliff-poses-serious-threat-to-colleges/

The Sup Ct race based admission policy rulings may also impact applications. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-will-the-supreme-courts-affirmative-action-ruling-affect-college-admissions/

Lots to unpack here, obviously, but no clean trends are likely.




Anonymous
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! No.


Gee so deep. And pretty rude.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes. There have been many articles about how Jewish students, in particular, are looking elsewhere for next year


+1
There is no way in hell I would allow my kids to apply to these schools. They are morally bankrupt and I hope their donors leave them high and dry.
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