What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

All the kids are "his", in that three are biological and the three adopted children were adopted by him as well as her.

[Anonymous]

I think they are are both personality disordered. The ability to leave your wife for another woman and pose for pictures in a magazine article about it shows a profound lack of empathy. Brad Pitt is also an addict as was Angelina. They raised those kids together for several years, I believe the fact that some of them are refusing to see him is telling. While she may be badmouthing him at least a few of those kids would still want to see him if he were a consistently benign parental figure to them. You can't be emotionally available to kids if you are always high or drunk period. If she feels her kids are unsafe in him having 50/50 custody she should fight that happening period. The people insisting she should support a custody arrangement that none of us know is in the best interest of her kids is just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they are are both personality disordered. The ability to leave your wife for another woman and pose for pictures in a magazine article about it shows a profound lack of empathy. Brad Pitt is also an addict as was Angelina. They raised those kids together for several years, I believe the fact that some of them are refusing to see him is telling. While she may be badmouthing him at least a few of those kids would still want to see him if he were a consistently benign parental figure to them. You can't be emotionally available to kids if you are always high or drunk period. If she feels her kids are unsafe in him having 50/50 custody she should fight that happening period. The people insisting she should support a custody arrangement that none of us know is in the best interest of her kids is just wrong.

For years, she's likely been badmouthing him to the kids. He pushed for the kids to go to school but she refused. Imagine how that went over.

They've never been to school, any of them, until the oldest who is now going to an expensive private college outside of Seoul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is possible that she is insane AND he is abusive.

It's possible, but not probable.

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Why not? Because he was hot 15 years ago? He’s the one that was in his mid-20s dating underage actresses. He’s the one who left his wife for crazy Jolie and flaunted it in his ex’s face. He’s the one who admitted his drinking messed up their marriage. He’s the one who still has supervised visits. I don’t understand why this guy is so untouchable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are are both personality disordered. The ability to leave your wife for another woman and pose for pictures in a magazine article about it shows a profound lack of empathy. Brad Pitt is also an addict as was Angelina. They raised those kids together for several years, I believe the fact that some of them are refusing to see him is telling. While she may be badmouthing him at least a few of those kids would still want to see him if he were a consistently benign parental figure to them. You can't be emotionally available to kids if you are always high or drunk period. If she feels her kids are unsafe in him having 50/50 custody she should fight that happening period. The people insisting she should support a custody arrangement that none of us know is in the best interest of her kids is just wrong.

For years, she's likely been badmouthing him to the kids. He pushed for the kids to go to school but she refused. Imagine how that went over.

They've never been to school, any of them, until the oldest who is now going to an expensive private college outside of Seoul.


Many people home school kids especially celebrities. Even if she was bad-mouthing him to the kids. He helped raise those kids for several years so they should still be attached to him in some way. The fact that they are not speaks volumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is possible that she is insane AND he is abusive.

It's possible, but not probable.

+1

Why not? Because he was hot 15 years ago? He’s the one that was in his mid-20s dating underage actresses. He’s the one who left his wife for crazy Jolie and flaunted it in his ex’s face. He’s the one who admitted his drinking messed up their marriage. He’s the one who still has supervised visits. I don’t understand why this guy is so untouchable.

yeah. i don't like angelina but just because he speaks softly doesn't mean is not an ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is possible that she is insane AND he is abusive.

It's possible, but not probable.

+1

Why not? Because he was hot 15 years ago? He’s the one that was in his mid-20s dating underage actresses. He’s the one who left his wife for crazy Jolie and flaunted it in his ex’s face. He’s the one who admitted his drinking messed up their marriage. He’s the one who still has supervised visits. I don’t understand why this guy is so untouchable.

No, it's because Angelina Jolie is crazy. Or at least, she tries really hard to look like she's crazy. So she doesn't get a lot of sympathy, he does.

[Anonymous]

Maybe people don't understand addicts well. It's giving up everything for one damn thing. And he admitted he did that for years.

It's possible that he gets drunk and throws things around, creates terror. He's probably not constantly hitting people, but c'mon. He can create an unsafe environment. He's drunk, they are fighting, one of the teen boys trying to placate him and he shoves them on his way out the door. Or he slams his fist in the wall.

It doesn't have to be a Lifetime Movie stereotype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are are both personality disordered. The ability to leave your wife for another woman and pose for pictures in a magazine article about it shows a profound lack of empathy. Brad Pitt is also an addict as was Angelina. They raised those kids together for several years, I believe the fact that some of them are refusing to see him is telling. While she may be badmouthing him at least a few of those kids would still want to see him if he were a consistently benign parental figure to them. You can't be emotionally available to kids if you are always high or drunk period. If she feels her kids are unsafe in him having 50/50 custody she should fight that happening period. The people insisting she should support a custody arrangement that none of us know is in the best interest of her kids is just wrong.

For years, she's likely been badmouthing him to the kids. He pushed for the kids to go to school but she refused. Imagine how that went over.

They've never been to school, any of them, until the oldest who is now going to an expensive private college outside of Seoul.

The judge agreed with him about schooling. The kids all attend school now. One of the recent article refers to this. She is furious that he’s won on some key issues and will do anything to prevent 50-50 custody. She views the kids as hers and he probably was a crappy father their last year or two together when he seemed drunk most of the time. Plus she wants the child support big bucks. But seems like he got his act together, and she needs to think more about the best interests of her children.

[Anonymous]

She was warned by the judge about controlling the children and making them afraid of their father. She was told she could lose custody if she didn’t cut it out. Classic parental alienation. Of course the kids are loyal to her. She made sure of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was warned by the judge about controlling the children and making them afraid of their father. She was told she could lose custody if she didn’t cut it out. Classic parental alienation. Of course the kids are loyal to her. She made sure of it.

Exactly.
My husbands ex did this. His kids never wanted to see him. I witnessed her screaming at him when he would drop off or pick them up. She manipulated the kids, told them lies...
But once the went to college and got away from her, they slowly started visiting. Took years for him to reestablish a relationship with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was warned by the judge about controlling the children and making them afraid of their father. She was told she could lose custody if she didn’t cut it out. Classic parental alienation. Of course the kids are loyal to her. She made sure of it.

Exactly.
My husbands ex did this. His kids never wanted to see him. I witnessed her screaming at him when he would drop off or pick them up. She manipulated the kids, told them lies...
But once the went to college and got away from her, they slowly started visiting. Took years for him to reestablish a relationship with them. [/quote



There is a reason parental alienation is not recognized by the DSM. it is because oftentimes the kids resistance to seeing the offending parent is blamed on the other parent and not on the offending parent's behavior. I still believe that this man raised those kids for several years and they should feel some attachment to him. If there is a custody schedule put in place they should not be resistant to going. Kids like to have fun, if they viewed him as emotionally available they would want to go no matter what mom said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

Six kids total. Three biological, three adopted.

She adopted Maddox before Pitt. Maddox called him “Dad” which is when they supposedly decided they needed to be a couple. I think she had at least one other adoption in the pipeline, maybe two.

[Anonymous]

Another factor: she hates LA and want to live in Europe. Can't take the kids without BP's permission and he won't agree. So she needs full custody.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/brad-pitt-struggling-amid-angelina-jolie-domestic-violence-claims/

[Anonymous]

I think these abuse allegations would be more plausible if they weren’t coming now, 4 years after the fact. In context, this seems to be more of Jolie’s tactics that she’s already been warned about. When a high profile divorce lawyer who specializes in celebrities drops a client who is one half of the highest profile celebrity divorce in ages? You better believe the client is awful. Like crazy awful.