What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think these abuse allegations would be more plausible if they weren’t coming now, 4 years after the fact. In context, this seems to be more of Jolie’s tactics that she’s already been warned about. When a high profile divorce lawyer who specializes in celebrities drops a client who is one half of the highest profile celebrity divorce in ages? You better believe the client is awful. Like crazy awful.

+1. Yes, these are all good points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

Six kids total. Three biological, three adopted.

She adopted Maddox before Pitt. Maddox called him “Dad” which is when they supposedly decided they needed to be a couple. I think she had at least one other adoption in the pipeline, maybe two.

Tabloids are reporting that Maddox wants to drop Pitt from his name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His side makes the point that abuse charges were almost immediately dropped. Laura Wasser is not a misogynist, she dumped her as a client for a good reason. Wasser’s focus is on peaceful negotiations and the best interests of the children. Jolie had no interest in that. Yet one year before the divorce she was crowing he was the best father ever. Doesn’t add up.

I think this, in addition to the timing, is suspicious. She said for years what an incredible father he was. And the charges were dropped, so? The kids put that they shouldn't fight so much him their wedding vows. Two narcissists in a toxic relationship that stayed together too long. And now the kids pay the price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

All the kids are "his", in that three are biological and the three adopted children were adopted by him as well as her.

Were all three bio in succession (so they're the oldest?) and then they adopted three after fertility issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

All the kids are "his", in that three are biological and the three adopted children were adopted by him as well as her.

Were all three bio in succession (so they're the oldest?) and then they adopted three after fertility issues?

No, it was the other way around. The oldest three were adopted, then they had the next three (last were twins).

https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie-kids-who-are-they-explainer/d67d7adb-9370-4198-a287-7e56bfe25fde

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

All the kids are "his", in that three are biological and the three adopted children were adopted by him as well as her.

Were all three bio in succession (so they're the oldest?) and then they adopted three after fertility issues?

No. Angelina adopted Maddox when she was with Billy Bob. She adopted Zaharia during the beginning stages of her romance with Brad (the adoption process probably started before the romance did). She then had Shiloh. She and Brad adopted that other boy (what is his name? Why can’t I think of it?). Then she became pregnant with the twins.

How old are you? I feel like this is common knowledge if you were paying attention 16-17 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

Six kids total. Three biological, three adopted.

She adopted Maddox before Pitt. Maddox called him “Dad” which is when they supposedly decided they needed to be a couple. I think she had at least one other adoption in the pipeline, maybe two.

Tabloids are reporting that Maddox wants to drop Pitt from his name.

He’s an adult and legal age, if he wanted it, would’ve done it by now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This from her sounds ridiculous:

"I’ve been focusing on healing our family. It’s slowly coming back, like the ice melting and the blood returning to my body.... I’m not there yet. But I hope to be. I’m planning on it.”

But one thing I don't understand from Brad is that he wants 50/50 custody of all of the kids, even the ones Angelina had before they got together? Like all 9 of them or whatever? Is that correct -- I don't see it stated anywhere. If so that seems weird. I don't get the impression that all the kids were really his thing to start with, and he's probably going to be off making movies most of the time so how much nurturing is he really going to do? Unless this is just to avoid paying her for them. Ugh the money.

All the kids are "his", in that three are biological and the three adopted children were adopted by him as well as her.

Were all three bio in succession (so they're the oldest?) and then they adopted three after fertility issues?

No. Angelina adopted Maddox when she was with Billy Bob. She adopted Zaharia during the beginning stages of her romance with Brad (the adoption process probably started before the romance did). She then had Shiloh. She and Brad adopted that other boy (what is his name? Why can’t I think of it?). Then she became pregnant with the twins.

How old are you? I feel like this is common knowledge if you were paying attention 16-17 years ago.

ha I'm 53. I don't follow pop culture outside of maybe checking twitter once in a while.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure he's really been doing the parenting work in the relationship before now, has he? Seems like he was a lot more checked out than she was, being a parent was a lot less a part of his identity than it was for her. Like, how many movie sets is he on a year? Whereas it seems like she has mostly checked out of the industry.

I mean, I don't like her and never will. She is awful and if he was pushing to get the kids in a real school, that seems like a positive step for kids that otherwise probably live too weird of a life. But what is he hoping for from 50/50 custody, really -- is he actually going to be there or is he going to set some rules and farm it out to nannies? Because if that latter, that's just ridiculous.

Oh ho ho it would be HILARIOUS if he married Jen and she got defacto control over the kids 50% of the time when Brad was off on a movie. I know that won't happen and I don't really want it to but it would be amazing karma for Jolie ah ha ha. If I were doing a movie, that's how I'd have it end, with Aniston in the backyard at the pool putting out some salads on the patio while the kids played in the water and the twins circled her lovingly and called her Momifer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure he's really been doing the parenting work in the relationship before now, has he? Seems like he was a lot more checked out than she was, being a parent was a lot less a part of his identity than it was for her. Like, how many movie sets is he on a year? Whereas it seems like she has mostly checked out of the industry.

I mean, I don't like her and never will. She is awful and if he was pushing to get the kids in a real school, that seems like a positive step for kids that otherwise probably live too weird of a life. But what is he hoping for from 50/50 custody, really -- is he actually going to be there or is he going to set some rules and farm it out to nannies? Because if that latter, that's just ridiculous.

Oh ho ho it would be HILARIOUS if he married Jen and she got defacto control over the kids 50% of the time when Brad was off on a movie. I know that won't happen and I don't really want it to but it would be amazing karma for Jolie ah ha ha. If I were doing a movie, that's how I'd have it end, with Aniston in the backyard at the pool putting out some salads on the patio while the kids played in the water and the twins circled her lovingly and called her Momifer.

Before split, read he has the kids visit him on set, even in foreign countries. Sounds like family went sometimes to where he was filming. If she’s not working, easily done.

And a parent working should not be an issue with custody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure he's really been doing the parenting work in the relationship before now, has he? Seems like he was a lot more checked out than she was, being a parent was a lot less a part of his identity than it was for her. Like, how many movie sets is he on a year? Whereas it seems like she has mostly checked out of the industry.

I mean, I don't like her and never will. She is awful and if he was pushing to get the kids in a real school, that seems like a positive step for kids that otherwise probably live too weird of a life. But what is he hoping for from 50/50 custody, really -- is he actually going to be there or is he going to set some rules and farm it out to nannies? Because if that latter, that's just ridiculous.

Oh ho ho it would be HILARIOUS if he married Jen and she got defacto control over the kids 50% of the time when Brad was off on a movie. I know that won't happen and I don't really want it to but it would be amazing karma for Jolie ah ha ha. If I were doing a movie, that's how I'd have it end, with Aniston in the backyard at the pool putting out some salads on the patio while the kids played in the water and the twins circled her lovingly and called her Momifer.

Why would Aniston want any part of this hot mess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure he's really been doing the parenting work in the relationship before now, has he? Seems like he was a lot more checked out than she was, being a parent was a lot less a part of his identity than it was for her. Like, how many movie sets is he on a year? Whereas it seems like she has mostly checked out of the industry.

I mean, I don't like her and never will. She is awful and if he was pushing to get the kids in a real school, that seems like a positive step for kids that otherwise probably live too weird of a life. But what is he hoping for from 50/50 custody, really -- is he actually going to be there or is he going to set some rules and farm it out to nannies? Because if that latter, that's just ridiculous.

Oh ho ho it would be HILARIOUS if he married Jen and she got defacto control over the kids 50% of the time when Brad was off on a movie. I know that won't happen and I don't really want it to but it would be amazing karma for Jolie ah ha ha. If I were doing a movie, that's how I'd have it end, with Aniston in the backyard at the pool putting out some salads on the patio while the kids played in the water and the twins circled her lovingly and called her Momifer.

If the kids are in school now he can mostly match his schedule to theirs. A big movie star can have it written into his contract that he must leave set every day by 4pm or whatever.

[Anonymous]

The thing about the abuse allegations is that they can essentially both be right. If he was drunk and high for their entire relationship, he could have been violent here and there and he might not remember. And he might be shocked at the allegations and think they are lies! But everyone else might remember them pretty well.

And if he's not drunk and high anymore, he may have reformed. So what is right for the kids now if he is sober?

At the same time, if he was drunk or high for a whole decade, how does he deserve 50/50? Even if she is messed up, at least she was checked in.

Final scene of Momifer movie would be Angelina showing up at the door for pickup and observing that while the kids love Jolie very much they actually don't want to leave because Momifer is fun and joyful and normal.

[Anonymous]

Both Angelina and Jennifer were poor matches for Brad. Angelina can be vengeful so I'm not surprised by how all of this is playing out. Jennifer never wanted kids.

Sandra Bullock would have been a better match for him as for actresses go. Sandra grew up with both parents in a moderate household and is close to friends and family. She also wanted kids. They likely would have had two or three kids (maybe 1 adopted) and that would have been it. Whatever issues Brad had Sandra would have been able to manage it better. She comes off a bit co-dependent so it would have taken a lot of energy from her but would have made it through as long as he publicly humiliate her.

[Anonymous]

I think we need to ask why this embarrassing info is being leaked. There is only one answer: anger and the desire to hurt Brad. The judge agreed with him about traditional schooling and he won't allow her to move overseas with the kids. He's on track to gain 50-50 custody of the younger kids, which she feels is unfair and which hurts her financially. She doesn't get as big a payout in the divorce as she expected because they were only married two years. So she's on the losing side of all of this, doesn't get the free roaming international lifestyle she's always wanted for herself, and wants to punish him.