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Barnard is Barnard, not Columbia!!!
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Anonymous
Well, I would roll my eyes at that too. So dumb. |
Anonymous
You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic? And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student. |
Anonymous
| New Yorkers respect Barnard. New Yorkers think EXTREMELY poorly of any Barnard girl that tries to pretend they went to Columbia. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Law schools confer doctoral degrees and graduates wear doctoral robes. But no lawyer I’ve ever met wants to be called “doctor.” Doctor used to mean someone with a Ph.D. Someone who had extended human knowledge. The idea that someone should be called doctor simply for having been trained in a professional skill is abhorrent. And yes, I include physicians. Medical schools did not start conferring doctoral degrees on their graduates until one did in the 19th century and then they all followed suit. |
Anonymous
Do they feel the same way about SGS students who say they went to Columbia? After reading about how Columbia fudges their numbers to USNWR, I wouldn’t be thinking too highly of the entire school. |
Anonymous
Harvard extension is not the same as Harvard. Or if it is then Harvard is not all it’s cracked up to be. The extension classes are pretty easy. |
Anonymous
My guess is that this ruffles feathers because these students/parents are implying they got into Columbia, which is significantly harder than getting into Barnard. If they had applied to Columbia college or engineering they wouldn't have gotten in. They got into Barnard because it has, undeniably, lower standards, so I imagine it bothers the other Ivy parents to hear them brag about getting in. Regardless, who cares who is brags about this kind of stuff? It is stupid. |
Anonymous
Congratulations! You made it at the 2nd best college in the USA! I really question Columbia University's ranking as 2nd best college in the USA. |
Anonymous
It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia. But the bottom line is this: The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions. The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.” The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women. https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university |
Anonymous
Harder to get into Columbia than Barnard? I imagine that it’s harder to get into Columbia College of Engineering than it is to get into Columbia College. I imagine that various majors within each of these colleges have varying degrees of difficulty as well. I expect that there are differences in access between male and female applicants to different majors as well as the university strives to achieve gender balance. Same for URMs, legacies, athletes, etc. Geographic differences as well. Whole different story for SGS as well. Does Columbia even calculate those applicants into their stated rate of acceptance? The fact that there is no one single standard of selection at Columbia. It varies depending on a lot of factors. Another fact is that Barnard only admitted 11% of it applicants last year. It is incredibly selective. It’s standard for admission is more similar to Columbia than it is difference. For the vast majority of college applicants both are an incredible reach. And it is much easier for men to get into Columbia than to get into Barnard. |
Anonymous
No, SGS is, unfortunately, part of the Columbia Corporation. Barnard is not. Barnard is a separate corporation. Barnard has its own President, its own Board of Trustees and its own endowment. Columbia College, The Fu School of Engineering, and Columbia School of General Studies all have the same President, Board of Trustees and endowment. |
Anonymous
You’re trying to make this into an either/or question and it isn’t. It’s a partnership. It’s unique. They’re affiliated. Barnard’s own website says that it’s under the Columbia umbrella. (See the link which I provided.) You can try to make it into something else, but it isn’t. Teacher’s College was founded as a separate institution from Columbia University, but it later became affiliated with Columbia muc the way that Barnard is now affiliated. Columbua includes if us affiliated with 17 schools and programs. Schools with which it is affiliated include Barnard College, Jewish Theological Seminary, Teacher’s College, and Union Theological Seminary. See link: https://www.tc.columbia.edu/student-affairs/about-us/tc-understanding-the-affiliation/ A lot of this is hair splitting because it makes little to no difference in the lives of the students who attend college there. Whether it’s an affiliation and a partnership or whether it were one big university with separate schools and college, it functions in the same way for the students who attend and go to class every day. The differences are more technical than they are real in the lives of students. In the end, Barnard students get a degree endorsed by both Barnard itself and by Columbia University. |
Anonymous
I am well aware that Barnard purports to be under Columbia’s umbrella, but Barnard is not part of the Columbia Corporation. Neither is Columbia Teachers College. Columbia’ website lists three undergraduate schools: Columbia College, the Fu School of Engineering, and the School of General Studies. Barnard can claim whatever it wants but who’s a part of Columbia is up to Columbia. Barnard could have been a part of Columbia, but, thank goodness, they refused to merge with Columbia. |
Anonymous
| No one should try to hawk off Barnard as Columbia. It just comes off as desperate. |