DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis looking to get rid of Disney's special tax district privileges in response to Disney for being 'woke'. The measure only has to pass the house, which is Republican, so it looks like there is a very high probability of passing.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-eliminate-disneys-special-tax-district-11650473902

Go woke and go broke is going to be DeSantis' presidential rallying cry.

My guess is it is more in retaliation for their completely hypocritical position. If they had this stance for years and were consistent with their their support for the gay community, my guess is this wouldn't be happening. However, they continue to do business with and even expand business into countries that have banned gay marriage and even condemn gays to death, so they are really just going after DeSantis, who in turn is fighting back.

The matter is not complicated. DeSantis is not an idiot - you may not like him but he is not an idiot. DeSantis would not have gone after Disney if they just did the standard corporate dance about LGTBQIA2S+ and threw in some references to equity and stakeholder capitalism. Disney vowed to work towards repealing the Parental Rights in Education law, which has broad popular support among FL residents. If Disney wants to dabble in politics, well, DeSantis is showing them what that means.

Eggggsactly. Disney wants to get into the political arena then don't be surprised when their opponents fire back. If Disney wants to get into politics, it needs to do so in other countries where it does business too. There are no two faced half measures.

[Anonymous]

Dr. Susan MacManus, a political analyst and University of South Florida Distinguished Professor Emerita of Political Science, said she finds the threat against the Reedy Creek Improvement District unusual because of all it would take to unravel it.

If the RCID were eliminated, control of the 40+ square miles owned by Walt Disney World would go back to the two counties it straddles – Osceola and Orange. They would have to provide the fire protection, emergency medical services, permitting services and other governance that Disney now does for itself.

And they would be doing it without more tax money.

The special district does not exempt Disney from paying property taxes,” Clark said. Disney is Central Florida’s largest taxpayer, paying nearly $300 million per year in property taxes to Orange and Osceola counties, as well as about $250 million in other state taxes.

So, if those counties had to assume many of the roles the Reedy Creek Improvement District now performs, they would be doing it without any real expanded income, save some potential permitting and other construction fees. The counties could create a special fire protection taxing district to re-coup some of the money needed to replace the 200-employee Reedy Creek Fire Department, which provides 911 emergency services, fire protection, and emergency medical services. But other services counties are expected to provide would fall back to both of the counties to fund, and that might lead to an increase in property taxes for local residents, Clark said.

https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2022/04/19/analysts-say-florida-stripping-disney-worlds-power-could-cost-residents-and-counties/

Keep posting the lies about Disney not paying taxes. Typical conservatives always lying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will the local taxpayers assume a burden if this goes down? Seems like all those FL statewide GOPers want to impose higher taxes on the middle class.

Yes, the burden is one billion dollars, around $2200 for each and every Orange and Osceola County resident.
Lots of discussion already here:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1052413.page

Literally every Dem candidate for the midterm elections should be hammering this point. DeSamtus cleverly has this not kicking in u til 2025 but the numbers are there and should be broadcasted far and wide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis looking to get rid of Disney's special tax district privileges in response to Disney for being 'woke'. The measure only has to pass the house, which is Republican, so it looks like there is a very high probability of passing.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-eliminate-disneys-special-tax-district-11650473902

Go woke and go broke is going to be DeSantis' presidential rallying cry.

My guess is it is more in retaliation for their completely hypocritical position. If they had this stance for years and were consistent with their their support for the gay community, my guess is this wouldn't be happening. However, they continue to do business with and even expand business into countries that have banned gay marriage and even condemn gays to death, so they are really just going after DeSantis, who in turn is fighting back.

The matter is not complicated. DeSantis is not an idiot - you may not like him but he is not an idiot. DeSantis would not have gone after Disney if they just did the standard corporate dance about LGTBQIA2S+ and threw in some references to equity and stakeholder capitalism. Disney vowed to work towards repealing the Parental Rights in Education law, which has broad popular support among FL residents. If Disney wants to dabble in politics, well, DeSantis is showing them what that means.

Eggggsactly. Disney wants to get into the political arena then don't be surprised when their opponents fire back. If Disney wants to get into politics, it needs to do so in other countries where it does business too. There are no two faced half measures.

Completely agree. Disney even makes edits to their movies removing anything related to LBGQT so they can be shown in China. Such hypocrites

[Anonymous]

There is no going back for Disney. Florida can penalize it all it wants. All that happens is that future investments will consider these actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis looking to get rid of Disney's special tax district privileges in response to Disney for being 'woke'. The measure only has to pass the house, which is Republican, so it looks like there is a very high probability of passing.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-eliminate-disneys-special-tax-district-11650473902

Go woke and go broke is going to be DeSantis' presidential rallying cry.

What a petulant thug De Santis is—taking a page right out of Trump’s playbook by punishing those who cross him. It sure gets his face and name in the news…which is exactly the point.

[Anonymous]

That “help” to the Legislators – in the form of political donations Disney regularly makes – is on hold, though. In a March 6 letter to employees, Chapek announced the Walt Disney Company would pause all political donations in Florida after the passage of the Parental Rights in Education Act.

This is why the grifters are upset with Disney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis looking to get rid of Disney's special tax district privileges in response to Disney for being 'woke'. The measure only has to pass the house, which is Republican, so it looks like there is a very high probability of passing.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-eliminate-disneys-special-tax-district-11650473902

Go woke and go broke is going to be DeSantis' presidential rallying cry.

My guess is it is more in retaliation for their completely hypocritical position. If they had this stance for years and were consistent with their their support for the gay community, my guess is this wouldn't be happening. However, they continue to do business with and even expand business into countries that have banned gay marriage and even condemn gays to death, so they are really just going after DeSantis, who in turn is fighting back.

The matter is not complicated. DeSantis is not an idiot - you may not like him but he is not an idiot. DeSantis would not have gone after Disney if they just did the standard corporate dance about LGTBQIA2S+ and threw in some references to equity and stakeholder capitalism. Disney vowed to work towards repealing the Parental Rights in Education law, which has broad popular support among FL residents. If Disney wants to dabble in politics, well, DeSantis is showing them what that means.

Eggggsactly. Disney wants to get into the political arena then don't be surprised when their opponents fire back. If Disney wants to get into politics, it needs to do so in other countries where it does business too. There are no two faced half measures.

Completely agree. Disney even makes edits to their movies removing anything related to LBGQT so they can be shown in China. Such hypocrites

Disney has always been in the political arena. They own Tallahassee. Look for Disney to strike back against DeSantis. DeSantis just lost any hope of being President. He just does not know it yet. Business are watching what the republicans are doing in Florida and Texas and want not part of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will the local taxpayers assume a burden if this goes down? Seems like all those FL statewide GOPers want to impose higher taxes on the middle class.

Yes, the burden is one billion dollars, around $2200 for each and every Orange and Osceola County resident.
Lots of discussion already here:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1052413.page

Literally every Dem candidate for the midterm elections should be hammering this point. DeSamtus cleverly has this not kicking in u til 2025 but the numbers are there and should be broadcasted far and wide.

The math is no so simple.

Currently Disney is able to self govern meaning tax and provide services.

Desantis is taking away Disney's ability to tax. Taxes at Disney properties will now go to local and state gov not Disney.

If Disney wants to maintain its current level of services it might need to continue to privately fund things such as EMS without the benefit of the tax revenue it currently enjoys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no going back for Disney. Florida can penalize it all it wants. All that happens is that future investments will consider these actions.

Please! Even with this move, Florida is far more attractive to a business like Disney than a liberal state like California or NY. Per other posters, Disney should be positively celebrating this gift of legislation by DeSantis now that they will be able to transfer administrative costs to the government. They are probably popping bottles in the executive offices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no going back for Disney. Florida can penalize it all it wants. All that happens is that future investments will consider these actions.

Disney is already reconsidering relocating 2,000 high paid worker to Florida. This is a disaster for Florida but good for DeSantis fund raise.

[Anonymous]

It is not as if Disney will retaliate by shutting down Disneyworld and moving it to the Northeast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis looking to get rid of Disney's special tax district privileges in response to Disney for being 'woke'. The measure only has to pass the house, which is Republican, so it looks like there is a very high probability of passing.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-eliminate-disneys-special-tax-district-11650473902

Go woke and go broke is going to be DeSantis' presidential rallying cry.

What a petulant thug De Santis is—taking a page right out of Trump’s playbook by punishing those who cross him. It sure gets his face and name in the news…which is exactly the point.

I don't hear any howling from the Democrats when Disney removes diversity from its movie content to make sure it can make profits in China. Either Disney has a stance or it doesn't. Which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will the local taxpayers assume a burden if this goes down? Seems like all those FL statewide GOPers want to impose higher taxes on the middle class.

Yes, the burden is one billion dollars, around $2200 for each and every Orange and Osceola County resident.
Lots of discussion already here:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1052413.page

Plus the surrounding localities would have to pick up the of cost of first responder services, utility infrastructure, etc. that Disney currently pays for.

The surrounding localities would receive the increased tax revenue that Disney would have to pay for losing the many tax breaks they currently receive.

No Disney already pays taxes.

Yes, Disney pays some taxes, but they are given significant breaks, which would go away if this passes.

[Anonymous]

Disney was in trouble way before this happened. It is plagued by infighting at the top, a pivot toward lower quality/higher volume service and merchandise, and degrading customee satisfaction. I'm pro free speech and conservative and I have conflicted views of this choice, but Disney probably needs a massive jolt to get back to its long history of high quality, family friendly entertainment.