Is This Too Much to Ask - Immunizations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of good daycares, OP. Find one NOW.

You have received the very rare unanomous consensus on DCUM! Congratulations - you are dead wrong.

Lol, yes! I was actually thinking a daycare would be good for her, as well because the workers are all required to be immunized. Maybe not to th extent that she wants, but hey, at least that’s something she’ll be able to afford.

Run nannies, run from jobs like this. She can't afford $250, you better forget about collecting any overtime that you will accrue (because you bet you will with someone like OP.)

Also, just to clarify, daycare workers are not required to be immunized for flu or whooping cough. Just proof of TB test and maybe one more.

[Anonymous]

MB here, agreeing fully with this miraculous unicorn thread of unanimity.

Your are being unreasonable OP, and a good/smart/experienced nanny will run from your job. I think you should rethink your childcare plan and use a professionally run daycare - you will be much happier in the long run and it will save you the stress of trying to manage an employee.

Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the answer here, OP, is that you need to state this in the job description--"must have proof of x, y, and z vaccinations." It's fairly common to have to do a TB test or provide immunization documentation in other fields. In this case she doesn't have it, so move on, or be willing to pay for boosters.

If you state it upfront as a condition of employment, it's not any different than saying someone must have a driver's license. It costs money to get that, but I wouldn't pay for it for a prospective employee--they either come in with it or they don't. I also wouldn't ask them to pay for it if they didn't already have it, though; I would just decline to hire them.

And then be prepared for many qualified nannies to straight-up pass. Like many people, I do not have proof of my childhood vaccinations. My pediatrician is retired, and I don't still have that little card. Asking for proof of the (annual) flu vaccine or a TDaP booster received as an adult is totally reasonable. Asking for someone to prove their childhood vaccinations is going to weed out a lot of people who were vaccinated but just can't be bothered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MB here, agreeing fully with this miraculous unicorn thread of unanimity.

Your are being unreasonable OP, and a good/smart/experienced nanny will run from your job. I think you should rethink your childcare plan and use a professionally run daycare - you will be much happier in the long run and it will save you the stress of trying to manage an employee.

Good luck.

+1

[Anonymous]

At this point you have to know how wrong you are, OP.

Your demand is completely out of whack and really set off your relationship with this nanny candidate on the wrong foot. Without question, you should pay for the titer test and apologize for asking her in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of good daycares, OP. Find one NOW.

You have received the very rare unanomous consensus on DCUM! Congratulations - you are dead wrong.

Lol, yes! I was actually thinking a daycare would be good for her, as well because the workers are all required to be immunized. Maybe not to th extent that she wants, but hey, at least that’s something she’ll be able to afford.

Is this a state law ? I work in a daycare on the west coast and I haven't had to show any immunization records ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of good daycares, OP. Find one NOW.

You have received the very rare unanomous consensus on DCUM! Congratulations - you are dead wrong.

Lol, yes! I was actually thinking a daycare would be good for her, as well because the workers are all required to be immunized. Maybe not to th extent that she wants, but hey, at least that’s something she’ll be able to afford.

Is this a state law ? I work in a daycare on the west coast and I haven't had to show any immunization records ever.

Not in Maryland. I don't think it's required in VA either. DC might be different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it unreasonable/reasonable to ask the nanny candidate to get or show proof of the following vaccines: Flu, whooping cough, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, tuberculosis, and meningitis. If she can’t track it down that she received them, we ask her to get a titer ( blood test) to see if any of this is present on her symptoms. We offered a annny we like position, and she shot it down. She said she was only ever asked to provide Flu, whooping cough, and sometimes Tuberculosis. She doesn’t know if she can track all of the paperwork down for proof, and is only willing to do the titer test if we pay to reimburse her. We are unwilling to do that, because we both would not have a company pay for those things if we are required to have them. Am I asking too much?

Yes, OP, you are asking way too much. Without question or hesitation, you should pay for the titer text as well as her time getting the test.

[Anonymous]

Oh, whoops! I’m the one who posted that daycare workers are required to be immunized (not for everything, but at least it’s something!) and I didn’t realize that it might be a state law. My mistake!

With her price range, I still think she should look in to it, though.

[Anonymous]

Of course I agree with all the other posters and add an emphatic "YES!" to the question "Am I asking too much?"

Nannies and employers alike have weighted in here, OP, and come to the unanimous (an unprecedented) agreement!!! I hope you take it to heart.

[Anonymous]

Op here. The nanny did turn us down. For those who are marking remarks, she does already have her certifications, flu, and tdap shot. She said the whole test would run her around $500 if she needed the titer and possible vaccines. We are going to ask our pediatrican what we can get away with. For those saying we can’t afford a nanny, we live in Arlington and plan to pay $16 for one infant. I feel like that’s a good wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The nanny did turn us down. For those who are marking remarks, she does already have her certifications, flu, and tdap shot. She said the whole test would run her around $500 if she needed the titer and possible vaccines. We are going to ask our pediatrican what we can get away with. For those saying we can’t afford a nanny, we live in Arlington and plan to pay $16 for one infant. I feel like that’s a good wage.

$16 is alright. For one infant, it’s not horrible. Hopefully you are offering her vacation and sick days. $500+ is too much. I would never pay this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it unreasonable/reasonable to ask the nanny candidate to get or show proof of the following vaccines: Flu, whooping cough, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, tuberculosis, and meningitis. If she can’t track it down that she received them, we ask her to get a titer ( blood test) to see if any of this is present on her symptoms. We offered a annny we like position, and she shot it down. She said she was only ever asked to provide Flu, whooping cough, and sometimes Tuberculosis. She doesn’t know if she can track all of the paperwork down for proof, and is only willing to do the titer test if we pay to reimburse her. We are unwilling to do that, because we both would not have a company pay for those things if we are required to have them. Am I asking too much?

These are not required by everyone. So, if you want the nanny to prove she’s had it with a titer or get a new booster, most nannies will ask either for reimbursement or for it to be covered after employer-paid health insurance kicks in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. We are on a tight budget, and having to pay for that seems ridiculous. The nanny should take care of her own health and provide that. When I went into nursing school, I had to get a lost immunizations that I had to pay for out of pocket. I don’t think asking her to pay for it is that unreasonable.

Going to nursing school is not the same as accepting a nannying position... Nursing school requires you to pay for a lot of things, and immunizations required prior to starting are pretty standard from school to school. There’s no standard for immunizations for nannies, and it’s certainly not required for most positions! If you’re on a tight enough budget that you can’t afford to reimburse this, maybe you need to rethink whether you can afford the other things that go along with having a nanny...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The nanny did turn us down. For those who are marking remarks, she does already have her certifications, flu, and tdap shot. She said the whole test would run her around $500 if she needed the titer and possible vaccines. We are going to ask our pediatrican what we can get away with. For those saying we can’t afford a nanny, we live in Arlington and plan to pay $16 for one infant. I feel like that’s a good wage.

In Arlington?! Nope, that’s the low end of the range, most are at least $18.