When To Pull The Plug?

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Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

Huh? So why are you a nanny then?

Parents not being able to take PTO (or unpaid) for the duration of the pandemic and still pay the nanny's salary doesn't mean we don't care about our nanny. Of course, the nanny has the right to be paid for time worked, but the family's situation isn't necessarily going to allow them to pay for a nanny when they don't have one coming to work. The nanny's wages come from our paychecks, which we have to maintain to pay our mortgage, buy groceries, etc.

So if your nanny got sick you would still have her come to work? Fire her and hire a new person? Right now?

Sickness is a different story. In fact, she caught something a couple of weeks ago, and we had her stay home that week. It was very, very difficult and would not have been sustainable. In normal times, we would have had to secure a temp nanny, but we wouldn't bring a stranger in at this time. If her illness had gone on any longer, we would have had to beg our parents for help, and they are older with some underlying conditions and can't easily handle 3 active infant/toddler/preschool age kids. So trying to avoid that. It sucks, but I feel like nannies working in individual homes are far safer than daycare workers or delivery people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot of nanny employers aren’t eligible for a stimulus check.

I’ve guess 99% aren’t eligible. Individuals top out at $95k, couples at $150k. And the stimulus would cover one week.’a pay for most full time nannies, then another week for each two children in the family. Teachers with nannies could qualify, I guess, and since most have to teach online right now, they may need help.

If you do the math and consider that on the books nanny salaries are in the $50,000-$65,000+ range, most employers of nannies are not eligible for those programs. They couldn't afford nannies if they made less than $150,000 gross.

[Anonymous]

So I think it's fair to say that most nanny families have two wage earners and within that framework the majority of those families earn more than $150k (a third of what the nanny makes). The family could let the nanny go and the nanny could apply for UE. And that is a base scenario. For parents with younger children who aren't in school, single parents, parent's of SN kids, etc. there are many different wrinkles.

OP here and my concern is not just for myself but for everyone in my community. Of course that concern is informed and tempered by financial realities.

I'm not here to argue or compare my employer's occupations to health care providers in terms of importance but if everyone considers themselves essential again we are not actually SIP.

There is absolutely no way you can guarantee that someone who does not live in your household (be it the nanny or the employers) is following the same social distancing directives.

And seriously parents would you really consider hiring a new person at a time like this to introduce to your house hold?

[Anonymous]

OP, what are you asking? Sounds like you plan to stop social distancing and will be knowingly compromising everyone you meet, including the family.

Ethically and legally, you must tell them this, and they need to decide whether to end employment or continue paying you. We continue to pay our nanny because we don't trust that she is distancing but I don't want her to go without a paycheck (long story - she was doing all kinds of things I had asked her not to do, but they weren't really endangering anyone's life).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I think it's fair to say that most nanny families have two wage earners and within that framework the majority of those families earn more than $150k (a third of what the nanny makes). The family could let the nanny go and the nanny could apply for UE. And that is a base scenario. For parents with younger children who aren't in school, single parents, parent's of SN kids, etc. there are many different wrinkles.

OP here and my concern is not just for myself but for everyone in my community. Of course that concern is informed and tempered by financial realities.

I'm not here to argue or compare my employer's occupations to health care providers in terms of importance but if everyone considers themselves essential again we are not actually SIP.

There is absolutely no way you can guarantee that someone who does not live in your household (be it the nanny or the employers) is following the same social distancing directives.

And seriously parents would you really consider hiring a new person at a time like this to introduce to your house hold?

A family who earns $150K is most likely not having their own nanny as $150K is a lot less after taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are you asking? Sounds like you plan to stop social distancing and will be knowingly compromising everyone you meet, including the family.

Ethically and legally, you must tell them this, and they need to decide whether to end employment or continue paying you. We continue to pay our nanny because we don't trust that she is distancing but I don't want her to go without a paycheck (long story - she was doing all kinds of things I had asked her not to do, but they weren't really endangering anyone's life).

OP here. No I have been distancing but I have gone grocery shopping. I have not seen family or friends except for outside six feet apart. NF is social distancing when I'm at work and probably is during the weekend but of course who knows?