When To Pull The Plug?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what you're asking. You want us to tell you when to quit your job? I can't understand why you would quit.

Because she doesn't want to die of covid 19!

I still don't understand. Covid has been in this country since January. If OP worked on Tuesday and then the shelter-in-place mandate came out Wednesday she is in no more danger of getting sick Wednesday than she was Tuesday. I still don't see why she would wonder about quitting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

There was a reason childcare is considered an essential function. Both parents at home still need to work. And not all homes have two parents.

Also please remember that not all kids can be plunked in front of a video game or hang out by themselves all day. We have 3 kids, 4 and under. Demanding jobs, with video meetings all day long. We need our nanny, and she needs the money. It's legal, and it's a risk we feel we have to take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what you're asking. You want us to tell you when to quit your job? I can't understand why you would quit.

Because she doesn't want to die of covid 19!

I still don't understand. Covid has been in this country since January. If OP worked on Tuesday and then the shelter-in-place mandate came out Wednesday she is in no more danger of getting sick Wednesday than she was Tuesday. I still don't see why she would wonder about quitting.

As cases increase, the chance of contracting the virus increases, hence the difference a day or three can make.

OP, what exactly are your concerns? Their level of distancing? Your interactions outside of work? For me, I am going to the store every 7 or 14 days, and DB goes every 7 days. He went to 4 stores last weekend looking for flour. That is frustrating, but not enough for me to quit as they are in there use extremely diligent in not leaving the house/yard. I also go hiking, but follow strict guidelines, for myself but also for the responsibility I have to them. If they are doing something that you are uncomfortable with, talk with them about it. Explain the obligation we all have to society and our obligations to each other in this pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

There was a reason childcare is considered an essential function. Both parents at home still need to work. And not all homes have two parents.

Also please remember that not all kids can be plunked in front of a video game or hang out by themselves all day. We have 3 kids, 4 and under. Demanding jobs, with video meetings all day long. We need our nanny, and she needs the money. It's legal, and it's a risk we feel we have to take.

It is not a risk your nanny should take. You and YOUR DH can heybio at 4 am and work. You are just lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

There was a reason childcare is considered an essential function. Both parents at home still need to work. And not all homes have two parents.

Also please remember that not all kids can be plunked in front of a video game or hang out by themselves all day. We have 3 kids, 4 and under. Demanding jobs, with video meetings all day long. We need our nanny, and she needs the money. It's legal, and it's a risk we feel we have to take.

It is not a risk your nanny should take. You and YOUR DH can heybio at 4 am and work. You are just lazy.

PP states they have video conferences all day. Sure, she could do solo work at 4 am, but nobody else would be available at the crack of dawn (and coherent) to conference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

There was a reason childcare is considered an essential function. Both parents at home still need to work. And not all homes have two parents.

Also please remember that not all kids can be plunked in front of a video game or hang out by themselves all day. We have 3 kids, 4 and under. Demanding jobs, with video meetings all day long. We need our nanny, and she needs the money. It's legal, and it's a risk we feel we have to take.

It is not a risk your nanny should take. You and YOUR DH can heybio at 4 am and work. You are just lazy.

PP states they have video conferences all day. Sure, she could do solo work at 4 am, but nobody else would be available at the crack of dawn (and coherent) to conference.

PP here, the one with the little ones. We love our children, and I don't think we are lazy. By the way, I do get up between 4 & 5 every day to clean, prep meals, etc, and my husband and I work after the children's bedtime as well. Trust me, I would greatly prefer not to have to worry about how our risk is increased by those still in our nanny's circle. Because of that, we've had to give up seeing our parents who are normally pretty involved with our kids' lives. We are not wealthy and need to perform our jobs reasonably well as long as we have them. Having child care for the core part of the day is key. If one or both of us lose our source of income, it's not going to end well for anyone of us, including the nanny and her family. We found out recently that her husband was laid off, so she is currently her family's sole source of income. This is not surprising since the projections are for UE of over 30% when all is said and done. It's a balancing act, we're not breaking the law, and we're doing our best.

[Anonymous]

No one is saying you don't love your children but again this is unique situation. Have any parents out there spoken with their employers in terms of reduced productivity due to childcare issues? It's not laziness, it's reality. There are some serious cracks in our overall system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here I know this is a decision that only I can make for myself. I'm not just worried about me being sick but about being asympotomatic and getting someone else sick.

If you know that, why are you asking us when you should quit?

The same reason stupid women post asking how they should spell their kid's name!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

There was a reason childcare is considered an essential function. Both parents at home still need to work. And not all homes have two parents.

Tough. No one should be expected to take care of their children during s pandemic but the actual parents!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying you don't love your children but again this is unique situation. Have any parents out there spoken with their employers in terms of reduced productivity due to childcare issues? It's not laziness, it's reality. There are some serious cracks in our overall system.

Not PP, but I believe the most understanding and flexible of employers might offer to reduce your hours and salary and then put you on the list to be laid off first. And if that happens (salary reduction or job loss), the nanny can expect it would trickle down to her.

In other cases --employers that cannot cut any slack at all due to the essential nature of their business or companies that are crazy busy because of the virus--they have a brand new pool of millions of unemployed folks who would be happy to step in, ceteris paribus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

Huh? So why are you a nanny then?

Parents not being able to take PTO (or unpaid) for the duration of the pandemic and still pay the nanny's salary doesn't mean we don't care about our nanny. Of course, the nanny has the right to be paid for time worked, but the family's situation isn't necessarily going to allow them to pay for a nanny when they don't have one coming to work. The nanny's wages come from our paychecks, which we have to maintain to pay our mortgage, buy groceries, etc.

[Anonymous]

I guess a lot of nanny employers aren’t eligible for a stimulus check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

Huh? So why are you a nanny then?

Parents not being able to take PTO (or unpaid) for the duration of the pandemic and still pay the nanny's salary doesn't mean we don't care about our nanny. Of course, the nanny has the right to be paid for time worked, but the family's situation isn't necessarily going to allow them to pay for a nanny when they don't have one coming to work. The nanny's wages come from our paychecks, which we have to maintain to pay our mortgage, buy groceries, etc.

So if your nanny got sick you would still have her come to work? Fire her and hire a new person? Right now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Childcare is considered essential. So you can go to your essential job - providing childcare - in Maryland.

If you are worried your NF is not social distancing, you could quit, but I would not expect to receive unemployment.

What exactly is your NF doing?

Childcare is the responsibility of the parent and no one else. O predict that coronaviruus will have nannies finding new non childcare jobs as they have now finally found out that their familiesdo do not give a damn about them. For instance, the nanny whose family refuses to pay her for time already worked. Both parents at home but still need a nanny!

There was a reason childcare is considered an essential function. Both parents at home still need to work. And not all homes have two parents.

Tough. No one should be expected to take care of their children during s pandemic but the actual parents!

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Some of us are volunteering. I have an interview tomorrow with a family who needs 24/7. One parent is already out-of-state, and the other will be out-of-state as soon as the nanny arrives.

There are other parents who are wfh or woh and still need care. The only parents who don’t NEED care right now are furloughed, sah or laid off AND not looking for work; healthy enough to care for their children; AND capable of teaching whatever level the children need. There are many, many parents that fit 2/3 of the above, but the third category (whichever one it may be) means that they do need help, even for a few hours.

Now, I heartily agree that nannies with dependents and/or compromised health should not be asked to work. There are nannies who are available now to fill in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot of nanny employers aren’t eligible for a stimulus check.

I’ve guess 99% aren’t eligible. Individuals top out at $95k, couples at $150k. And the stimulus would cover one week.’a pay for most full time nannies, then another week for each two children in the family. Teachers with nannies could qualify, I guess, and since most have to teach online right now, they may need help.