Where my pay goes

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Anonymous wrote:And no one HAS to live in Dupont.

This is what is pissing me off in this thread. Nannies whining "I DON'T EARN A LIVING WAGE. I WORK IN GEORGETOWN AND SHOULD BE PAID TO LIVE IN GEORGETOWN! I NEED $2800 A MONTH TO COVER RENT!!!!"

Nannies, go live in SE, pay $350 a month by splitting a 2BR and take the metro to anywhere in DC. It's not that hard.

SE? I'm sure if you ever even had to drive through SE, you'd have your music off, windows up, doors locked, and your head down. If you are okay with your nanny living in the slums, please exit the thread, because the grown ups are trying to have a conversation.

To the other posters suggesting silver spring, again, you are living in the past. Silver Spring may have been much cheaper than DC in the past. Where that $750/month Dupont studio is now $1800-$2300/month, a silver spring studio is $1600-$1800/month. I live in a semi-safe area of PG county, and my studio is $1275/month! I suppose I should split it with a stranger, ie. roommate?

Stereotype much? I used to go to SE a lot for a volunteer job I had and the only group that ever bothered me was a religious group trying to convert me.

Oh so you did not house your children and everything you own and hold dear in that neighborhood? You did not live among the poor and share the burdens of poverty. Never sent your kids to the worst schools in America or walk home alone after dark in that neighborhood? Aren't you a model of humility.

While I did not grow up in SE, I grew up in a very poor household and have lived in less than desirable neighborhoods in my life where if you walked outside at night, you never knew what you were going to encounter. Are there bad neighborhoods in SE? But to make a blanket statement about all of SE without spending time there is stereotyping and judging. Some of the scariest neighborhoods I have been through in DC were not in the SE, but in the NW before they cleaned them up.

Okay? I'm not what exactly your point is. You suggested that a nanny go live there. It is cheap to live there for a reason. I know I couldn't send someone I gave a shit about home to that each night so that I could save a buck.

No, I am not the poster who said nannies should live in SE. But I think the general statement that just because it is SE it isn't a safe place to live is incorrect. There is a lot of cleaning up going on down there and people who wouldn't have lived there before are moving there. Not everyone who lives there is a thug out to rob, rape, or kill you. Get to know the people and the area before you make ignorant comments about a place you know nothing about.

This is true. Parts of SE have actually become pretty nice. I've also known some young white professionals with law degrees from top schools who have lived there because that is the level of housing they could afford given their not-for-profit career paths. They have enjoyed the experience and the sense of community there. It isn't Georgetown or Dupont Circle, but it is home to many hard working people who for a variety of reasons are not in high-paying careers.

To the studio dweller above who pays $1275 in rent, there is always a cost premium to live alone, even in a studio. Yes, maybe you do need to consider a larger apartment with more roommates, or a room in a private home, or if living alone is a priority, move to a lesser neighborhood or an area that is further away from the city. This is what people do when they are breaking into a new field or have chosen a low-paid job or career in one of the country's most expensive areas.

OR they have employers who want them to live like the fully grown adults that they are, not like the young college kids we used to be.

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Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

And you're UNDERESTIMATING how important your parenting job is, IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

And you're UNDERESTIMATING how important your parenting job is, IMO.

All I'm asking you to do is watch my kids while I work. Play with them, read some books, don't let them play with the lawnmower. I am not asking you to raise the next Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

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I know one family that found out by accident that their baby had ended in SE DC because for some reason nanny had to drive and do some errand there as well.
They were not happy to know their kid had been in danger like that.


The nanny never worked overtime because it would have been too dangerous to get home if it was too late

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

Wow you sound sane. You are a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for posting this.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

Wow you sound sane. You are a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for posting this.

She sounds sane? She sounds like a brown noser playing to what you want to hear. You are so freaking stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:And no one HAS to live in Dupont.

This is what is pissing me off in this thread. Nannies whining "I DON'T EARN A LIVING WAGE. I WORK IN GEORGETOWN AND SHOULD BE PAID TO LIVE IN GEORGETOWN! I NEED $2800 A MONTH TO COVER RENT!!!!"

Nannies, go live in SE, pay $350 a month by splitting a 2BR and take the metro to anywhere in DC. It's not that hard.

SE? I'm sure if you ever even had to drive through SE, you'd have your music off, windows up, doors locked, and your head down. If you are okay with your nanny living in the slums, please exit the thread, because the grown ups are trying to have a conversation.

To the other posters suggesting silver spring, again, you are living in the past. Silver Spring may have been much cheaper than DC in the past. Where that $750/month Dupont studio is now $1800-$2300/month, a silver spring studio is $1600-$1800/month. I live in a semi-safe area of PG county, and my studio is $1275/month! I suppose I should split it with a stranger, ie. roommate?

Stereotype much? I used to go to SE a lot for a volunteer job I had and the only group that ever bothered me was a religious group trying to convert me.

Oh so you did not house your children and everything you own and hold dear in that neighborhood? You did not live among the poor and share the burdens of poverty. Never sent your kids to the worst schools in America or walk home alone after dark in that neighborhood? Aren't you a model of humility.

While I did not grow up in SE, I grew up in a very poor household and have lived in less than desirable neighborhoods in my life where if you walked outside at night, you never knew what you were going to encounter. Are there bad neighborhoods in SE? But to make a blanket statement about all of SE without spending time there is stereotyping and judging. Some of the scariest neighborhoods I have been through in DC were not in the SE, but in the NW before they cleaned them up.

Okay? I'm not what exactly your point is. You suggested that a nanny go live there. It is cheap to live there for a reason. I know I couldn't send someone I gave a shit about home to that each night so that I could save a buck.

No, I am not the poster who said nannies should live in SE. But I think the general statement that just because it is SE it isn't a safe place to live is incorrect. There is a lot of cleaning up going on down there and people who wouldn't have lived there before are moving there. Not everyone who lives there is a thug out to rob, rape, or kill you. Get to know the people and the area before you make ignorant comments about a place you know nothing about.

This is true. Parts of SE have actually become pretty nice. I've also known some young white professionals with law degrees from top schools who have lived there because that is the level of housing they could afford given their not-for-profit career paths. They have enjoyed the experience and the sense of community there. It isn't Georgetown or Dupont Circle, but it is home to many hard working people who for a variety of reasons are not in high-paying careers.

To the studio dweller above who pays $1275 in rent, there is always a cost premium to live alone, even in a studio. Yes, maybe you do need to consider a larger apartment with more roommates, or a room in a private home, or if living alone is a priority, move to a lesser neighborhood or an area that is further away from the city. This is what people do when they are breaking into a new field or have chosen a low-paid job or career in one of the country's most expensive areas.

If you have decided that childcare must be a low paying profession then I understand why you will not pay a living wage. No set of facts will appeal to you becAuse your decision is not based in logic. You have a mental image of the childcare field that makes you feel powerful. You think about all those low paid women and give yourself a pat on the back. Life could be worse, you could be one of them, right? Look mama, I am somebody because I have control over someone else's access to health food and safety. You look at the woman cleaning feces from your child's laundry and you feel.... big. . You come home from your boring job and heat up your boring microwave dinner in front of your boring television set, then have boring sex. And again the next day and the next and the day after that. Instead of admitting you are a numb, unaffected sliver of the person you hoped to become when you grew up you are trying to find justice in your pathetic existence. That is why your baby clings to me when you walk in. That is why your husband has memorized the shape of my ass. Because I am still alive, my life isn't a sad sack of middle age slop. And that is why you want to starve me. But you can not. Your insipid vanity is starving your marriage and your bond with your children but you can not starve me. You are not women enough, MB. There's a women next door just like you and she will pay more to feel more powerful then you. Next year you will pay more too. I know that, I am not worried.

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If you have decided that childcare must be a low paying profession then I understand why you will not pay a living wage. No set of facts will appeal to you becAuse your decision is not based in logic. You have a mental image of the childcare field that makes you feel powerful. You think about all those low paid women and give yourself a pat on the back. Life could be worse, you could be one of them, right? Look mama, I am somebody because I have control over someone else's access to health food and safety. You look at the woman cleaning feces from your child's laundry and you feel.... big. . You come home from your boring job and heat up your boring microwave dinner in front of your boring television set, then have boring sex. And again the next day and the next and the day after that. Instead of admitting you are a numb, unaffected sliver of the person you hoped to become when you grew up you are trying to find justice in your pathetic existence. That is why your baby clings to me when you walk in. That is why your husband has memorized the shape of my ass. Because I am still alive, my life isn't a sad sack of middle age slop. And that is why you want to starve me. But you can not. Your insipid vanity is starving your marriage and your bond with your children but you can not starve me. You are not women enough, MB. There's a women next door just like you and she will pay more to feel more powerful then you. Next year you will pay more too. I know that, I am not worried.

My husband memorizes the shape of every ass he meets. Your ass just isn't as special as you think.

You'll be middle-aged one day too. Poorer, though.

PS: "A women"?

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If you have decided that childcare must be a low paying profession then I understand why you will not pay a living wage. No set of facts will appeal to you becAuse your decision is not based in logic. You have a mental image of the childcare field that makes you feel powerful. You think about all those low paid women and give yourself a pat on the back. Life could be worse, you could be one of them, right? Look mama, I am somebody because I have control over someone else's access to health food and safety. You look at the woman cleaning feces from your child's laundry and you feel.... big. . You come home from your boring job and heat up your boring microwave dinner in front of your boring television set, then have boring sex. And again the next day and the next and the day after that. Instead of admitting you are a numb, unaffected sliver of the person you hoped to become when you grew up you are trying to find justice in your pathetic existence. That is why your baby clings to me when you walk in. That is why your husband has memorized the shape of my ass. Because I am still alive, my life isn't a sad sack of middle age slop. And that is why you want to starve me. But you can not. Your insipid vanity is starving your marriage and your bond with your children but you can not starve me. You are not women enough, MB. There's a women next door just like you and she will pay more to feel more powerful then you. Next year you will pay more too. I know that, I am not worried.

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I have no desires that involve you in any way. I think you just like to make up stories where you are the heroine..of something.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

Wow you sound sane. You are a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for posting this.

She sounds sane? She sounds like a brown noser playing to what you want to hear. You are so freaking stupid.

No, she actually a mb trying to sound like a nanny. How obvious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

Wow you sound sane. You are a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for posting this.

She sounds sane? She sounds like a brown noser playing to what you want to hear. You are so freaking stupid.

No, she actually a mb trying to sound like a nanny. How obvious.

No, I'm a nanny with over 20 years of experience who has seen way too many poor excuses for caregivers in her time. I have watched many of you over the years at the park, the library, preschools, and countless classes and know the quality of care many "nannies" give is poor at best. I used to supplement my income when I was starting out by doing a lot of babysitting to make ends meet. I've worked for the horror story families when I was starting out, as many people do when they start off in their careers. And was I the greatest nanny when I started, no, but I took classes and read and gained other experience to improve my job skills.