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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

I think you've nailed both the problem and the solution. Very few parents think that someone providing reliable and quality childcare should be paid a pittance. The problem is that very few nannies truly provide the quality of care that parents are willing to pay high rates for. Those that do have advanced training and significant experience implementing that training and a willingness to be useful during nap time get paid quite well--sometimes upward of $20-25 per hour according to this forum. Those that just provide a sweet, warm presence to take the children to the park and the library are actually being paid quite well at $15 per hour. And yes, there are some young, college-degreed nannies who have years of babysitting experience and tremendous potential as nannies but still can't get hired at more than $15 per hour. They are simply unproven and need a couple of years to learn how to be a top-notch nanny as opposed to a highly-regarded babysitter. This group tends to see its rates rise significantly after a year or two in the profession.

Improve what you can offer a family so you can differentiate yourself from the glut of mediocre nannies, and then you will earn a high quality paycheck for a high quality service.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

Wow you sound sane. You are a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for posting this.

She sounds sane? She sounds like a brown noser playing to what you want to hear. You are so freaking stupid.

No, actually she sounds like most college-educated nannies who come from middle- or upper-middle class backgrounds. Women in this group have generally chosen to work as nannies because they like the work, not because they see themselves as having few other options. They tend not to go through life seething with anger at their employers because they don't see themselves as an abused underclass being held down by the selfish rich man. They understand that most parents love and have a great relationship with their kids, even if they work full time. They also understand that, to a great extent, their income is in their control. If they want to earn more, they have to actually perform in a way that makes them worth more.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should providing reliable and quality childcare be low-paid, is the question. Answer: it shouldn't. If children are our future and someone is spending 30-60+ hours per week helping to mold your child's behavior, language, physical and emotional development, discipline, understanding of the world, if this is someone who nurtures their innate curiosity and teaches them empathy, perseverance, and manners...is that really a low-skill job in your mind? If so, why do so many parents fail at it so miserably? (No, I don't mean MBs, I mean parents who simply don't know how to do those things because raising children is complicated and tricky.)

Do you need someone to watch your children? If so, stop denigrating nannies and telling them to choose another profession. If not, get yourself off the nanny forum and go enjoy your kids.

A copy of the above post goes on my refrigerator.

I want to be reminded everyday how important child care is, even if some MBs here don't seem to think so. I feel so sorry for their children. I hope they have someone in their lives who loves them.

You nannies are really overestimating how important your job is.

No, I know how important my job is. And I know my worth. But I know I am not more important than the parents. I know I am responsible for what I do with my paycheck. I know the parents could hire someone with less experience and skills, but I go above and beyond what so many people here think a nanny should do. I also don't overinflate my price. While I am highly experienced and have many skills, I also think there is a certain point where what a parent should pay is crazy. But too many unqualified girls feel differently.

Wow you sound sane. You are a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for posting this.

She sounds sane? She sounds like a brown noser playing to what you want to hear. You are so freaking stupid.

No, actually she sounds like most college-educated nannies who come from middle- or upper-middle class backgrounds. Women in this group have generally chosen to work as nannies because they like the work, not because they see themselves as having few other options. They tend not to go through life seething with anger at their employers because they don't see themselves as an abused underclass being held down by the selfish rich man. They understand that most parents love and have a great relationship with their kids, even if they work full time. They also understand that, to a great extent, their income is in their control. If they want to earn more, they have to actually perform in a way that makes them worth more.

Look, this board is for whining about life and trying to get more money for less work. If you don't want that then that is fine, but please don't rain on our parade.

[Anonymous]

For many parents, long term stability DOES make a nanny worth more.

These wise Mothers and Fathers understand the lifelong consequences of too many SEVERED attachments. WHO would do that to their OWN children, knowing that you're playing with FIRE?

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For many parents, long term stability DOES make a nanny worth more.

These wise Mothers and Fathers understand the lifelong consequences of too many SEVERED attachments. WHO would do that to their OWN children, knowing that you're playing with FIRE?

I am tired of this argument. Most of the nannies on here whining about how they can't live well on $15 per hour don't have the drive to build skills that will enable them to command more in another job, so they stay in their $15 per hour jobs--comfortable with their employers low expectations of them--and hang out on this board complaining about how MBs would pay them more if they really loved their children. Guess what, ladies. A mother's love for her children has very little to do with whether she chooses nanny vs. daycare and how much she pays for either.

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For many parents, long term stability DOES make a nanny worth more.

These wise Mothers and Fathers understand the lifelong consequences of too many SEVERED attachments. WHO would do that to their OWN children, knowing that you're playing with FIRE?

I am tired of this argument. Most of the nannies on here whining about how they can't live well on $15 per hour don't have the drive to build skills that will enable them to command more in another job, so they stay in their $15 per hour jobs--comfortable with their employers low expectations of them--and hang out on this board complaining about how MBs would pay them more if they really loved their children. Guess what, ladies. A mother's love for her children has very little to do with whether she chooses nanny vs. daycare and how much she pays for either.

Parental love has EVERYTHING to do with making sure your child is cared for in the best possible way, when you are absent.

In our society, better service costs more money. Unless, of course, it's a relative or friend helping you out.

[Anonymous]

Look, this board is for whining about life and trying to get more money for less work. If you don't want that then that is fine, but please don't rain on our parade.

Thank you for finally telling the truth. $15/hr for one child is not only a living wage, it's easy money. This board isn't about poor downtrodden nannies paid less than a "living wage". This board is about nannies who chose a low skill, low expectation, easy profession and expect to be paid more than their jobs are worth because they have an overinflated sense of self importance and are extremely jealous of their employers. They also are apparently entitled if they think they should be able to afford a one bedroom in Dupont, a car, cable, and a smart phone because they provide childcare.

Nannies are not raising children. Nannies are not educators who can demonstrate successful outcomes by meeting learning outcomes (like teachers have to). Nannies are not primary caregivers (the average length of a nanny job is one year). Nannies do an important job, but it is an easy job.

If I'm going to worry about economic disparity in this country, I'm not going to worry about nannies.

I'll worry about paramedics. http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/emergency-medical-technician-and-paramedic/salary. They make less than or equal to nannies who care for one child in DC. They're also high skilled and save lives every day as a matter of course. As do firefighters. http://www1.salary.com/Fire-Fighter-Salary.html.

[Anonymous]

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Look, this board is for whining about life and trying to get more money for less work. If you don't want that then that is fine, but please don't rain on our parade.

Thank you for finally telling the truth. $15/hr for one child is not only a living wage, it's easy money. This board isn't about poor downtrodden nannies paid less than a "living wage". This board is about nannies who chose a low skill, low expectation, easy profession and expect to be paid more than their jobs are worth because they have an overinflated sense of self importance and are extremely jealous of their employers. They also are apparently entitled if they think they should be able to afford a one bedroom in Dupont, a car, cable, and a smart phone because they provide childcare.

Nannies are not raising children. Nannies are not educators who can demonstrate successful outcomes by meeting learning outcomes (like teachers have to). Nannies are not primary caregivers (the average length of a nanny job is one year). Nannies do an important job, but it is an easy job.

If I'm going to worry about economic disparity in this country, I'm not going to worry about nannies.

I'll worry about paramedics. http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/emergency-medical-technician-and-paramedic/salary. They make less than or equal to nannies who care for one child in DC. They're also high skilled and save lives every day as a matter of course. As do firefighters. http://www1.salary.com/Fire-Fighter-Salary.html.

You couldn't be more WRONG. Moreover, you are nothing but a sorry excuse, for a caring parent.

I, in fact, have provided the early education of several physicians and attorneys. One of my former employers recently introduced me as, "The person who made my child who he is today." If you happen to watch the news on TV, you've probably seen him discussing his medical specialty, with amazing skill and eloquence. Thank you.

You, on the other hand, aren't half as bright as you pretend to be, even though I'm sure your parents gave you the best possible early childhood, that they could.

We all owe our children the same.
Simply the best we can do, with whatever we have.
Good luck to you, PP.

[Anonymous]

My MB works for a nonprofit. She can't afford to pay me more because she does public interest work. To make up for that, she doubled my PTO since her job is flexible. She also wrote letters of recommendation for my med school applications. She lets me borrow their car and put me on her account at Costco. She is also laid back in general, does not expect me to do any educational stuff. For $15 I think she gets her money's worth when her son is alive at the end of the day. I would love to make more, of course. I would also think I would give more. So I agree with both sides. If a nanny does something more the hand you your baby alive and fed and napped at the end of the day, she should be paid more then what I make. If not, then she should relax and enjoy the low expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:My MB works for a nonprofit. She can't afford to pay me more because she does public interest work. To make up for that, she doubled my PTO since her job is flexible. She also wrote letters of recommendation for my med school applications. She lets me borrow their car and put me on her account at Costco. She is also laid back in general, does not expect me to do any educational stuff. For $15 I think she gets her money's worth when her son is alive at the end of the day. I would love to make more, of course. I would also think I would give more. So I agree with both sides. If a nanny does something more the hand you your baby alive and fed and napped at the end of the day, she should be paid more then what I make. If not, then she should relax and enjoy the low expectations.

As an MD, I hope this post is fake. Your work ethic and dedication to your job aren't going to change just because you earn more money in the future. If you are content to slide by now (because you /only/ earn $15/hr), I hate to break it you, but you are about to spend the next decade of your life earning substantially less.

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Anonymous wrote:My MB works for a nonprofit. She can't afford to pay me more because she does public interest work. To make up for that, she doubled my PTO since her job is flexible. She also wrote letters of recommendation for my med school applications. She lets me borrow their car and put me on her account at Costco. She is also laid back in general, does not expect me to do any educational stuff. For $15 I think she gets her money's worth when her son is alive at the end of the day. I would love to make more, of course. I would also think I would give more. So I agree with both sides. If a nanny does something more the hand you your baby alive and fed and napped at the end of the day, she should be paid more then what I make. If not, then she should relax and enjoy the low expectations.

As an MD, I hope this post is fake. Your work ethic and dedication to your job aren't going to change just because you earn more money in the future. If you are content to slide by now (because you /only/ earn $15/hr), I hate to break it you, but you are about to spend the next decade of your life earning substantially less.

Earning less then who? You? I doubt she cares about you.

[Anonymous]

It has nothing to do with work ethic. The fry guy at McDonalds doesn't go in back and do the bookkeeping. I accepted a job where the pay and the responsibilities and schedule work with my school obligations. I don't do much more then hang out and play with their kid. I would not want a position the requires more because I have to study and I am on my university track team. What is wrong with that? If the family needed something more they would have paid someone more to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:My MB works for a nonprofit. She can't afford to pay me more because she does public interest work. To make up for that, she doubled my PTO since her job is flexible. She also wrote letters of recommendation for my med school applications. She lets me borrow their car and put me on her account at Costco. She is also laid back in general, does not expect me to do any educational stuff. For $15 I think she gets her money's worth when her son is alive at the end of the day. I would love to make more, of course. I would also think I would give more. So I agree with both sides. If a nanny does something more the hand you your baby alive and fed and napped at the end of the day, she should be paid more then what I make. If not, then she should relax and enjoy the low expectations.

As an MD, I hope this post is fake. Your work ethic and dedication to your job aren't going to change just because you earn more money in the future. If you are content to slide by now (because you /only/ earn $15/hr), I hate to break it you, but you are about to spend the next decade of your life earning substantially less.

Earning less then who? You? I doubt she cares about you.

Earning less than $15/hr.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My MB works for a nonprofit. She can't afford to pay me more because she does public interest work. To make up for that, she doubled my PTO since her job is flexible. She also wrote letters of recommendation for my med school applications. She lets me borrow their car and put me on her account at Costco. She is also laid back in general, does not expect me to do any educational stuff. For $15 I think she gets her money's worth when her son is alive at the end of the day. I would love to make more, of course. I would also think I would give more. So I agree with both sides. If a nanny does something more the hand you your baby alive and fed and napped at the end of the day, she should be paid more then what I make. If not, then she should relax and enjoy the low expectations.

As an MD, I hope this post is fake. Your work ethic and dedication to your job aren't going to change just because you earn more money in the future. If you are content to slide by now (because you /only/ earn $15/hr), I hate to break it you, but you are about to spend the next decade of your life earning substantially less.

Earning less then who? You? I doubt she cares about you.

Earning less than $15/hr.

Why would you expect to be paid for going to school? You don't sound to smart, for a doctor.

[Anonymous]

Look, this board is for whining about life and trying to get more money for less work. If you don't want that then that is fine, but please don't rain on our parade.


Thank you for finally telling the truth. $15/hr for one child is not only a living wage, it's easy money. This board isn't about poor downtrodden nannies paid less than a "living wage". This board is about nannies who chose a low skill, low expectation, easy profession and expect to be paid more than their jobs are worth because they have an overinflated sense of self importance and are extremely jealous of their employers. They also are apparently entitled if they think they should be able to afford a one bedroom in Dupont, a car, cable, and a smart phone because they provide childcare.

Nannies are not raising children. Nannies are not educators who can demonstrate successful outcomes by meeting learning outcomes (like teachers have to). Nannies are not primary caregivers (the average length of a nanny job is one year). Nannies do an important job, but it is an easy job.

If I'm going to worry about economic disparity in this country, I'm not going to worry about nannies.

I'll worry about paramedics. http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/emergenc...chnician-and-paramedic/salary. They make less than or equal to nannies who care for one child in DC. They're also high skilled and save lives every day as a matter of course. As do firefighters. http://www1.salary.com/Fire-Fighter-Salary.html.


You couldn't be more WRONG. Moreover, you are nothing but a sorry excuse, for a caring parent.

I, in fact, have provided the early education of several physicians and attorneys. One of my former employers recently introduced me as, "The person who made my child who he is today." If you happen to watch the news on TV, you've probably seen him discussing his medical specialty, with amazing skill and eloquence. Thank you.

You, on the other hand, aren't half as bright as you pretend to be, even though I'm sure your parents gave you the best possible early childhood, that they could.

We all owe our children the same.
Simply the best we can do, with whatever we have.
Good luck to you, PP.

Well, aren't you a nasty one. You don't know if I'm a parent or a nanny. Your insults mean nothing and indicate that you have nothing to offer to the conversation.

That's ok! You can stay and share your experiences, even though they also mean nothing.

You clearly believe yourself to be wonderful and maybe you are, but you are not a paramedic or a firefighter and your skills are simply not worth more than those lifesaving professions.

Your skills are worth $15/hr for one child in DC. Period. If you find a family willing to pay you more, good for you. But make no mistake. You work in a job with no regulation, no licensing, no education requirements, and no agreed upon standards of excellence. You are only as good as one family believes.

Also, it is doubtful that you did the bolded. Statistics alone suggests that there is highly unlikely that you provided the early education of many successful doctors and attorneys. You would have had to change jobs many times in your long career, in which case, you were not a significant long term nanny and therefore your influence was questionable at best. Of course, maybe you mean to suggest that your employers were these successful people. That, of course, means nothing. It says nothing of your skills and nothing of your accomplishments. All it says is that you found a family willing to pay you well.

Good for you. However, it doesn't change the facts and since you didn't bother to address the facts, apparently you understand that.

(You can drop the fake good luck. One, I don't need it and two, being a condescending bitch might seem clever to you, but it just makes you look ignorant.)