Okay? I'm not what exactly your point is. You suggested that a nanny go live there. It is cheap to live there for a reason. I know I couldn't send someone I gave a shit about home to that each night so that I could save a buck. |
Cars and cell phones are not necessities. |
No, I am not the poster who said nannies should live in SE. But I think the general statement that just because it is SE it isn't a safe place to live is incorrect. There is a lot of cleaning up going on down there and people who wouldn't have lived there before are moving there. Not everyone who lives there is a thug out to rob, rape, or kill you. Get to know the people and the area before you make ignorant comments about a place you know nothing about. |
This is off topic but if you're lowering your rates because you're married, you're being (I don't want to say stupid) imprudent. The rates for services have nothing to do with the personal circumstances of the service provider. They have everything to do with the value of these services in the marketplace. Even if you had a trust fund, you should still charge market rates. I don't think anyone said that the nanny should find that elusive unicorn of the $750 Dupont studio. The point was that people who are starting their careers live modestly, in small, often shared apartments. Being strapped when you're young or work a low-pay job is entirely normal! |
For the last time, not every nanny is just starting her career. Some of these women have been doing this for 20 years, yet you all still want to pay them $15/hour with only 2 weeks of vacation, one of which you choose. Its BS. |
No - it's the profession and the reality of the competition. I'll pay what I need to pay. IF I have great people available to me at $15/hr then I will hire one of them. If I have to pay $20/hr to get what I want then I'll pay $20/hr. Pretty simple really. If you can't earn what you want or need change jobs, change professions, take on additional work, pursue additional credentials to increase your rate, etc... But if an employer has a qualified applicant pool at rates lower than your you will be out of luck. If your pound of grapes is a dollar cheaper at Safeway than at Whole Foods you'll buy them at Safeway right? Still good fruit, just a better deal. |
I think that is the sad sad disconnect here. You think paying a nanny is the same thing as buying grapes. One doesn't have bills to pay. One doesn't love your kids. One doesn't rock them to sleep when you aren't there. One doesn't wake up early so you can get to an emergency meeting. One doesn't make you dinner when you've have a long week. One doesn't listen and nod while you complain about everything under the sun. One hasn't been in your home caring for your family every day for 3 years. But if the grapes and the nanny are the same, you and I will never reach any kind of understanding. You are a money grubbing soulless piece of trash, and I actually care about people. |
No, I'm comparing the buying decision - not the product. I have found produce to be pretty substandard in terms of childcare competencies. |
Different poster here, but I must say, your line of thinking seems to be out of sinc with the reality of people who are very different from yourself. |
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There is a unicorn out there. The market is the unicorn. As a matter of shorthand it makes sense to talk about the 'market' as an objective, unbiased, benevolent structure but that is not actually what it is. What some of you keep calling the market is actually a national economic system of capitalism. In a capitalist system individuals are free to make their own decisions and do so in self-interest. People who have the most capital have the most influence on how the system functions. That is why blacks, and gay people, and children, and anyone else who is not made in the image of the majority have been protected by government regulation - because the self-interest of the economic majority is often arbitrary and exclusive.
When you make a decision about how much something is worth and then initiate a transaction based on that assessment you are the market. The only market that really exists is the individual. If we are in a place where care providers are being exploited then it is because the self-interest of the economically privileged works against their favor. MBs can not hide behind a big monster called the market. It is not real. You want us to believe that it is, but it is only a fiction of your semantics. |
Thank you! This is what we have been trying to say! Don't blame low wages on the market when you yourself are creating said market. |
This is true. Parts of SE have actually become pretty nice. I've also known some young white professionals with law degrees from top schools who have lived there because that is the level of housing they could afford given their not-for-profit career paths. They have enjoyed the experience and the sense of community there. It isn't Georgetown or Dupont Circle, but it is home to many hard working people who for a variety of reasons are not in high-paying careers. To the studio dweller above who pays $1275 in rent, there is always a cost premium to live alone, even in a studio. Yes, maybe you do need to consider a larger apartment with more roommates, or a room in a private home, or if living alone is a priority, move to a lesser neighborhood or an area that is further away from the city. This is what people do when they are breaking into a new field or have chosen a low-paid job or career in one of the country's most expensive areas. |