Nannying on the side

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are petty and ridiculous. My AP is off between 9:30-2:30 every day. If she wants to pick up a few extra dollars on the side I do not mind as long as it does not conflict with her duties. If we need to alter the schedule during the day for whatever reason, then our family takes priority re her schedule. She absolutely is not allowed to have other kids in my car (for liability reasons).

ALL of your AP’s are doing some kind of side hustle while they are here. $200+ (for the families like us who pay a bit more re: stipend) does not go “far enough” when you take in to account inflation, the increase in travel costs, etc.

As someone said above, let them be.

I give extra here and there and give travel bonus to help but I do not allow side jobs. I sacrifice my privacy living with someone for a reason. She needs to exclusively work for me for my convenience. Don't need potential dramas on the side.

especially she will be driving my car on my insurance and using the gas that I paid for to go to her side jobs? A big NO.

[Anonymous]

My AP took a lazier route than side gigs - she lied in credit applications, secured a bunch of credit cards and then ran up credit card debt. Now I’m left getting notices and credit card offers every. Single. Day. - six months after she went home. Even our mailman commented on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are petty and ridiculous. My AP is off between 9:30-2:30 every day. If she wants to pick up a few extra dollars on the side I do not mind as long as it does not conflict with her duties. If we need to alter the schedule during the day for whatever reason, then our family takes priority re her schedule. She absolutely is not allowed to have other kids in my car (for liability reasons).

ALL of your AP’s are doing some kind of side hustle while they are here. $200+ (for the families like us who pay a bit more re: stipend) does not go “far enough” when you take in to account inflation, the increase in travel costs, etc.

As someone said above, let them be.

some of us are just trying to follow J1 Visa rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are petty and ridiculous. My AP is off between 9:30-2:30 every day. If she wants to pick up a few extra dollars on the side I do not mind as long as it does not conflict with her duties. If we need to alter the schedule during the day for whatever reason, then our family takes priority re her schedule. She absolutely is not allowed to have other kids in my car (for liability reasons).

ALL of your AP’s are doing some kind of side hustle while they are here. $200+ (for the families like us who pay a bit more re: stipend) does not go “far enough” when you take in to account inflation, the increase in travel costs, etc.

As someone said above, let them be.

I give extra here and there and give travel bonus to help but I do not allow side jobs. I sacrifice my privacy living with someone for a reason. She needs to exclusively work for me for my convenience. Don't need potential dramas on the side.

Absolutely this. Kid sick and needs to be picked up at 12pm? AP says can't do it because she's at her other gig. It's your wedding anniversary and you want a Saturday date night? AP says no because that's when she picks up shifts for extra money for another family.

This isn't even mean. It's WITHIN the program rules for AP not to work for anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are petty and ridiculous. My AP is off between 9:30-2:30 every day. If she wants to pick up a few extra dollars on the side I do not mind as long as it does not conflict with her duties. If we need to alter the schedule during the day for whatever reason, then our family takes priority re her schedule. She absolutely is not allowed to have other kids in my car (for liability reasons).

ALL of your AP’s are doing some kind of side hustle while they are here. $200+ (for the families like us who pay a bit more re: stipend) does not go “far enough” when you take in to account inflation, the increase in travel costs, etc.

As someone said above, let them be.

I give extra here and there and give travel bonus to help but I do not allow side jobs. I sacrifice my privacy living with someone for a reason. She needs to exclusively work for me for my convenience. Don't need potential dramas on the side.

Absolutely this. Kid sick and needs to be picked up at 12pm? AP says can't do it because she's at her other gig. It's your wedding anniversary and you want a Saturday date night? AP says no because that's when she picks up shifts for extra money for another family.

This isn't even mean. It's WITHIN the program rules for AP not to work for anyone else.
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If HFs are so worried about inadequate stipends, then pay your AP more. But please don't violate J1 Visa rules. It make it harder for the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are petty and ridiculous. My AP is off between 9:30-2:30 every day. If she wants to pick up a few extra dollars on the side I do not mind as long as it does not conflict with her duties. If we need to alter the schedule during the day for whatever reason, then our family takes priority re her schedule. She absolutely is not allowed to have other kids in my car (for liability reasons).

ALL of your AP’s are doing some kind of side hustle while they are here. $200+ (for the families like us who pay a bit more re: stipend) does not go “far enough” when you take in to account inflation, the increase in travel costs, etc.

As someone said above, let them be.

I give extra here and there and give travel bonus to help but I do not allow side jobs. I sacrifice my privacy living with someone for a reason. She needs to exclusively work for me for my convenience. Don't need potential dramas on the side.

Absolutely this. Kid sick and needs to be picked up at 12pm? AP says can't do it because she's at her other gig. It's your wedding anniversary and you want a Saturday date night? AP says no because that's when she picks up shifts for extra money for another family.

This isn't even mean. It's WITHIN the program rules for AP not to work for anyone else.

it is a visa violation. too many host families want to be the "cool mom" and look the other way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are petty and ridiculous. My AP is off between 9:30-2:30 every day. If she wants to pick up a few extra dollars on the side I do not mind as long as it does not conflict with her duties. If we need to alter the schedule during the day for whatever reason, then our family takes priority re her schedule. She absolutely is not allowed to have other kids in my car (for liability reasons).

ALL of your AP’s are doing some kind of side hustle while they are here. $200+ (for the families like us who pay a bit more re: stipend) does not go “far enough” when you take in to account inflation, the increase in travel costs, etc.

As someone said above, let them be.

I give extra here and there and give travel bonus to help but I do not allow side jobs. I sacrifice my privacy living with someone for a reason. She needs to exclusively work for me for my convenience. Don't need potential dramas on the side.

Absolutely this. Kid sick and needs to be picked up at 12pm? AP says can't do it because she's at her other gig. It's your wedding anniversary and you want a Saturday date night? AP says no because that's when she picks up shifts for extra money for another family.

This isn't even mean. It's WITHIN the program rules for AP not to work for anyone else.

it is a visa violation. too many host families want to be the "cool mom" and look the other way

It also leads to resentment when AP has to work for HF without extra pay on a switched shift and has to cancel a side shift that would have earned extra money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

Okay, visa issues aside (because, yes, it's not allowed on their visa).

Our previous au pair was nannying on the side. She was assaulted by the father in the household where she was a nanny. As a host family, we did not know about the side gig. She was obviously traumatized and left her year early because of the incident. She lost her visa when she reported the crime. Our LCC did not believe that we did not know about the side gig, we did not, so we were not offered the ability to rematch and lost the rest of the company fee for the year.

You should not look the other way if your AP is babysitting on the side. Hosting is not cheap and when you lose your agency fee, it's definitely not cheap. Our aupair had to go home and her mother called asking why our family did not keep their daughter safe, I felt awful even though I didn't know what she doing. Our LCC told us that if she had one of the nanny kids in our car and had an accident, we could have been sued for any damages.
The list of reasons why this is a bad idea was really long. If you think that host families are looking for cheap labor, then think about the families who are not even willing to pay the company fee and hire an AP the legit way. They are willing to hire one illegally and pay under the table. How ethical are these families? Our aupair found out the hard way how incredibly dangerous taking side gigs can be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

Okay, visa issues aside (because, yes, it's not allowed on their visa).

Our previous au pair was nannying on the side. She was assaulted by the father in the household where she was a nanny. As a host family, we did not know about the side gig. She was obviously traumatized and left her year early because of the incident. She lost her visa when she reported the crime. Our LCC did not believe that we did not know about the side gig, we did not, so we were not offered the ability to rematch and lost the rest of the company fee for the year.

You should not look the other way if your AP is babysitting on the side. Hosting is not cheap and when you lose your agency fee, it's definitely not cheap. Our aupair had to go home and her mother called asking why our family did not keep their daughter safe, I felt awful even though I didn't know what she doing. Our LCC told us that if she had one of the nanny kids in our car and had an accident, we could have been sued for any damages.
The list of reasons why this is a bad idea was really long. If you think that host families are looking for cheap labor, then think about the families who are not even willing to pay the company fee and hire an AP the legit way. They are willing to hire one illegally and pay under the table. How ethical are these families? Our aupair found out the hard way how incredibly dangerous taking side gigs can be.

There was no reason for you to feel awful. The Au Pair was a dishonest criminal and I hope you told her mother that when she called you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

Okay, visa issues aside (because, yes, it's not allowed on their visa).

Our previous au pair was nannying on the side. She was assaulted by the father in the household where she was a nanny. As a host family, we did not know about the side gig. She was obviously traumatized and left her year early because of the incident. She lost her visa when she reported the crime. Our LCC did not believe that we did not know about the side gig, we did not, so we were not offered the ability to rematch and lost the rest of the company fee for the year.

You should not look the other way if your AP is babysitting on the side. Hosting is not cheap and when you lose your agency fee, it's definitely not cheap. Our aupair had to go home and her mother called asking why our family did not keep their daughter safe, I felt awful even though I didn't know what she doing. Our LCC told us that if she had one of the nanny kids in our car and had an accident, we could have been sued for any damages.
The list of reasons why this is a bad idea was really long. If you think that host families are looking for cheap labor, then think about the families who are not even willing to pay the company fee and hire an AP the legit way. They are willing to hire one illegally and pay under the table. How ethical are these families? Our aupair found out the hard way how incredibly dangerous taking side gigs can be.

We did not like the extended liabilities we had to take for AP and that is why we only hosted for one year. It was a big relief when the year was over. You just never knew what could go wrong. I guess I will have to learn how to deal with my own kids later but it is too much to handle for someone not related to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

Okay, visa issues aside (because, yes, it's not allowed on their visa).

Our previous au pair was nannying on the side. She was assaulted by the father in the household where she was a nanny. As a host family, we did not know about the side gig. She was obviously traumatized and left her year early because of the incident. She lost her visa when she reported the crime. Our LCC did not believe that we did not know about the side gig, we did not, so we were not offered the ability to rematch and lost the rest of the company fee for the year.

You should not look the other way if your AP is babysitting on the side. Hosting is not cheap and when you lose your agency fee, it's definitely not cheap. Our aupair had to go home and her mother called asking why our family did not keep their daughter safe, I felt awful even though I didn't know what she doing. Our LCC told us that if she had one of the nanny kids in our car and had an accident, we could have been sued for any damages.
The list of reasons why this is a bad idea was really long. If you think that host families are looking for cheap labor, then think about the families who are not even willing to pay the company fee and hire an AP the legit way. They are willing to hire one illegally and pay under the table. How ethical are these families? Our aupair found out the hard way how incredibly dangerous taking side gigs can be.

We did not like the extended liabilities we had to take for AP and that is why we only hosted for one year. It was a big relief when the year was over. You just never knew what could go wrong. I guess I will have to learn how to deal with my own kids later but it is too much to handle for someone not related to us.

I suggest you learn how to deal with your own kids today, not “later”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

Okay, visa issues aside (because, yes, it's not allowed on their visa).

Our previous au pair was nannying on the side. She was assaulted by the father in the household where she was a nanny. As a host family, we did not know about the side gig. She was obviously traumatized and left her year early because of the incident. She lost her visa when she reported the crime. Our LCC did not believe that we did not know about the side gig, we did not, so we were not offered the ability to rematch and lost the rest of the company fee for the year.

You should not look the other way if your AP is babysitting on the side. Hosting is not cheap and when you lose your agency fee, it's definitely not cheap. Our aupair had to go home and her mother called asking why our family did not keep their daughter safe, I felt awful even though I didn't know what she doing. Our LCC told us that if she had one of the nanny kids in our car and had an accident, we could have been sued for any damages.
The list of reasons why this is a bad idea was really long. If you think that host families are looking for cheap labor, then think about the families who are not even willing to pay the company fee and hire an AP the legit way. They are willing to hire one illegally and pay under the table. How ethical are these families? Our aupair found out the hard way how incredibly dangerous taking side gigs can be.

We did not like the extended liabilities we had to take for AP and that is why we only hosted for one year. It was a big relief when the year was over. You just never knew what could go wrong. I guess I will have to learn how to deal with my own kids later but it is too much to handle for someone not related to us.

I suggest you learn how to deal with your own kids today, not “later”.

DP. She meant with respect to driving, you dolt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: check care.com, urbansitters, sittercity, and FB DMV nanny groups. SOOOO many *current* au pairs are trying to get nanny jobs on the side which is in violation of their J1 visa.

Not a pro tip. It’s old news.

It worked out great for us! We didn’t have to get an au pair or deal with any of it and got some great, intelligent, high energy baby sitting for a small fed per hour. It always struck me as idiotic that families refused to pay a living stipend and stuck to the recommendation which they knew was cheap. Their loss our gain. Keep abusing your APs, smarter DC families are benefiting
The only way to stop your AP from moonlighting is paying her/him properly. Which you won’t do cause vast majority of you are mean and cheap. The number of posts on this board that drip with resentment for these young people you entrust your children to and are meant to provide a cultural experience for are telling of just how awful most hosts are — sad, but good for us!

Okay, visa issues aside (because, yes, it's not allowed on their visa).

Our previous au pair was nannying on the side. She was assaulted by the father in the household where she was a nanny. As a host family, we did not know about the side gig. She was obviously traumatized and left her year early because of the incident. She lost her visa when she reported the crime. Our LCC did not believe that we did not know about the side gig, we did not, so we were not offered the ability to rematch and lost the rest of the company fee for the year.

You should not look the other way if your AP is babysitting on the side. Hosting is not cheap and when you lose your agency fee, it's definitely not cheap. Our aupair had to go home and her mother called asking why our family did not keep their daughter safe, I felt awful even though I didn't know what she doing. Our LCC told us that if she had one of the nanny kids in our car and had an accident, we could have been sued for any damages.
The list of reasons why this is a bad idea was really long. If you think that host families are looking for cheap labor, then think about the families who are not even willing to pay the company fee and hire an AP the legit way. They are willing to hire one illegally and pay under the table. How ethical are these families? Our aupair found out the hard way how incredibly dangerous taking side gigs can be.

We did not like the extended liabilities we had to take for AP and that is why we only hosted for one year. It was a big relief when the year was over. You just never knew what could go wrong. I guess I will have to learn how to deal with my own kids later but it is too much to handle for someone not related to us.

I suggest you learn how to deal with your own kids today, not “later”.

My kids are young now and I perfectly know how to deal with them right now. I meant when they got older and start driving or doing things independently, I will have to take the extended liabilities at that point. However, I’m not ready or willingly to take that for an AP right now.