Who did you think killed JonBenet?
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Anonymous
Why would we believe the Ramsey's lawyer over the dozens of investigators, inluding thr fbi? |
Anonymous
The truth is a great defense in a defamation suit. This suit isn't going anywhere. |
Anonymous
I'm not saying I am believing Ramsey's lawyer. Lou Smit came to the same conclusion and I thought he was pretty convincing. Bottom line I haven't made up my mind yet. But my question is still the same for anyone who knows- can one even get deep ligature marks on their body if they are already dead? Doesn't blood flow need to be occurring in order to bruised or have ligature marks on your body? |
Anonymous
JonBenet was rendered brain dead by the blow. I think the pathologist Spitz said that her heart may have still been beating but her brain damage was irreversible at the tine of the blow. Maybe the ligature stopped her heart. . |
Anonymous
Ok. But then if her parents felt a heartbeat, why on earth would they strangle her? It's not like they could've done an MRI and known she was brain dead. This is the one last thing keeping me from thinking the Ramsey's did it. I can't believe if their daughter had a pulse, they would just decide to finish her off with a garrote. Surely, if image was so important, they could've just said the kids were rough-housing and Burke hit her too hard in the head and then we rushed to the hospital because she was still breathing. If one of your kids hit the other so hard to the point of being unconscious, would you think "hmmm she must be brain dead, let's go ahead and strangle her so our son doesn't look bad." |
Anonymous
The only way I can see them staging the death like that is if they thought that their daughter was already dead. |
Anonymous
I agree. But here's where CBS's view doesn't make sense. If Burke knocked JB out, the Ramsey's would've checked to see if JB was breathing and had a pulse before using a garrote to finish her off. If in fact she were already dead from Burke's head blow, I don't think deep ligature marks could've been made on her neck because there was no blood flow. Someone correct me if I'm wrong that a body will bruise after death? |
Anonymous
I honestly don't know the answer. I'm guessing that if she were in a deep coma and completely unresponsive/brain dead that her breathing and heartbeat could have been hard to detect especially if the parents were in panic mode. If she had been laying there for a while maybe she was even cool to the touch. I honestly don't know. But I think that the experts suggested that it was possible that the parents thought she was dead. So I suppose it's possible that they could have thought that she was dead even if she still had a heartbeat. It's a pretty horrifying possibility. |
Anonymous
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If it was an intruder, was it:
a) a sexual pervert trying to make it look like a ransom kidnapping?? Why on earth would they do that? Wouldn't a sexual pervert just want to get her out of there alive? Or do the horrible things to to her, and then kill her and leave her in the house? b) a ransom kidnapping? If so, why the extremely long note? Why did they kill her before they left the house and then *important* take the time to stage it as a sexual crime? Neither of those scenarios make any sense to me. |
Anonymous
| Is it possible that the autopsy was wrong about the blow to the head coming first? |
Anonymous
Of those 2 options, I think a) They would want to make it look like a ransom kidnapping to throw everyone off. I think they would've had to have written the note before the Ramsey's got home. They probably wanted to get JB out of the house but for some reason couldn't. Then sexually assaulted and strangled her. Finally hit her over the head with something. It doesn't make a lot of sense but the full Burke scenario doesn't either. |
Anonymous
| Was JonBenet's hair restyled after the party? I read that earlier in this thread, I don't know that it's true but if her hair was really redone after they returned from the party...no way would some crazed sex killer intruder do that. |
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| ^^ blood pools when you die. If you're on your back when you die, blood pools there and looks like a bruise. My dad fell on the floor and died. He landed on something that was on the floor and had a bruise and dent on his cheek from laying on that object. I don't think it's unheard of (esp in the "old" days) for parents of SIDS babies to be charged with murder because the baby had "bruises" when really the blood pooled after death. As for the ligature marks on JB, I don't know. But I do know that when blood isn't circulating, it will pool and look like a nasty bruise. |
Anonymous
| There were also claw marks on her neck (the size of her fingernails) and her own DNA was found under her fingernails, so she was not only alive at the time of her strangulation, but she was alert and fighting to get the rope off her neck. This was a terrible, horrific sex crime most likely perpetrated by an intruder. |
Anonymous
If it's clearly someone's opinion, that's also a defense. |