Single friend feeling left behind

Anonymous
OP, you are a good friend for asking this question and wanting to be a supportive and understanding.

I second what many others have said about being encouraging and trying not to be condescending or trite. Sometimes your friend will just need to bitch about how she is sick of going to weddings alone or that an online prospect blew her off. And all she may need is for you to listen and nod and say "yeah, that really sucks and I'm sorry."

In addition to including her in group plans, I also encourage you to spend time with her just the two of you. Yes, single people want to be included in things with married people, but it is also nice to just spend time with you solo, and not always as a married unit with your spouse (no matter how awesome he or she is). If you can do something that may get her into a scene where other singles are around (going out for cocktails, Nats game, etc.) then go and be the wingman. If many of her friends are coupled up and settling down as you noted, the group of people she has to go out with is dwindling. Put the Sunday brunches and yoga classes on hold, which are fine and fun, but are probably not going to get her around a lot of single men. Invite her for cocktails at a great rooftop bar instead. She will appreciate it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my 40's, a single mom, and I really enjoy my life. While I think it's great that many kids have involved fathers, I knew a lot of fathers during my childhood who were completely crappy, and I find it hard to regard them as a necessity.

If women in DC want to marry, they are up against a lot of demographic challenges. The ratio of men to women is lower than it is on the West Coast. A lot of men out here had non-working mothers, so they think that women exist to clean up after them and tell them how smart they are. The men in this area are going to disproportionately live in the burbs, near the tech and biotech firms, while women are disproportionately working for nonprofits and law firms in the city.

One good way to spend one's time is to do volunteer work, especially in an activity like youth sports or doing hands on building projects, like Habitat for Humanity, so that the male female ratio is higher. Even if your friend doesn't meet anyone doing this, the sense of satisfaction form helping others and completing a project will be quite satisfying.


where are you getting this from? completely inaccurate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I assume your friend no longer excludes people because they don't like the Exact Same Bands, is only 5'11", needs to make $200k, is three years older, etc.

No, women don't deserve some guy who asks for nudes in line 4 of a conversation or who cant stoo going on about their demon ex from six years ago. But after 30, if you are serious about marriage, a serious examination of priorities and the such is needed.


You speak truth here. I have a good friend who is attractive, intelligent and funny. She is 35 and wants to get married, have kids. She has been doing online dating for about 10 years off and on. She desperately wants to find someone great, and she deserves someone great, but she has expectations that are skewed away from reality.

She has very key, limiting specifics for every category (e.g., musts = Catholic, 5'11+, advanced degree, holds job in one of a few specific career fields, never engaged or married, no kids, wants 3+ kids, no more than three years older than her, etc.) and thus, her pool of potential men, within these parameters, is very, very small. She is a great girl, but she is rigid with her must have list, that it counts out probably 90% of people out there. She says she knows that what she wants is limiting, but she doesn't think she should have to compromise. I get it, but I think she will be online for a good deal longer if she doesn't change at least one or two criteria.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Offer to set your friend up with any available decent guy you know. Don't say they aren't each other's type. Introduce them and let them decide.

Tell her to settle. I don't mean for a deadbeat loser but to reevaluate her criteria and let some go. Things like he needs a certain degree, he needs a certain career path, family type, religion, etc.

- signed single woman in her 40s who would have wanted both of the above from friends.


i wish i could shake my single gfs and tell them this. at some point, if you want to settle down and have a family within the next 2-4 years, enough with the extreme pickiness. i have friends rejecting guys because of height, etc.
Anonymous
obviously you have never dated online. neither did i, but i followed closely my best friend's adventures.

online dating is a whole different level of hell. luckily i am married, but if i were single i would not do online dating. it's demeaning, and soul crushing.

"but if i were single i would not do online dating. it's demeaning, and soul crushing."

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It would be interesting to me to understand how dating outside an online venue is any different.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I assume your friend no longer excludes people because they don't like the Exact Same Bands, is only 5'11", needs to make $200k, is three years older, etc.

No, women don't deserve some guy who asks for nudes in line 4 of a conversation or who cant stoo going on about their demon ex from six years ago. But after 30, if you are serious about marriage, a serious examination of priorities and the such is needed.


You speak truth here. I have a good friend who is attractive, intelligent and funny. She is 35 and wants to get married, have kids. She has been doing online dating for about 10 years off and on. She desperately wants to find someone great, and she deserves someone great, but she has expectations that are skewed away from reality.

She has very key, limiting specifics for every category (e.g., musts = Catholic, 5'11+, advanced degree, holds job in one of a few specific career fields, never engaged or married, no kids, wants 3+ kids, no more than three years older than her, etc.) and thus, her pool of potential men, within these parameters, is very, very small. She is a great girl, but she is rigid with her must have list, that it counts out probably 90% of people out there. She says she knows that what she wants is limiting, but she doesn't think she should have to compromise. I get it, but I think she will be online for a good deal longer if she doesn't change at least one or two criteria.

I think people who are this rigid just aren't ready for a relationship and the compromises it entails. It's one thing to say he must be catholic, as that goes to a lot of things - how kids will be raised, shared family values, etc. (for example, I probably couldn't marry a practicing catholic because I would want to argue with him all the time). But above 5'11"? Stupid criterion. That goes to nothing. Sometimes there's a reason people are single. Part of being mature is learning what is actually important and what isn't.



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:does she have clubs she could join? running, biking, soccer? Can your dh"s introduce her to someone>

my friend is in the same position. When she says something in wanting of a future I don't say stuff like like you have time, try this try that. I usually just say you will have a family. Just believe that. You will meet somebody.
There was a seminar I saw online recently abt how to network when single and I sent it to my friend. Surprisingly she was very grateful. I think it is hard out there. Btw, my friend is hugely successful, very tall and very pretty. I don't get it. I think she may just be too confident.


Very tall is not a good thing in the dating world - take it from someone who is five eight. It means I am taller than many of the men in this town.


She could move to Haymarket, Va., as it seems every guy there is at least six feet tall!
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MaxwellSmart wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:does she have clubs she could join? running, biking, soccer? Can your dh"s introduce her to someone>

my friend is in the same position. When she says something in wanting of a future I don't say stuff like like you have time, try this try that. I usually just say you will have a family. Just believe that. You will meet somebody.
There was a seminar I saw online recently abt how to network when single and I sent it to my friend. Surprisingly she was very grateful. I think it is hard out there. Btw, my friend is hugely successful, very tall and very pretty. I don't get it. I think she may just be too confident.


Very tall is not a good thing in the dating world - take it from someone who is five eight. It means I am taller than many of the men in this town.


She could move to Haymarket, Va., as it seems every guy there is at least six feet tall!

So what? I just couldn't base something so important on something so meaningless.
Anonymous
I also have a friend like this. She's got a PhD from Harvard so basically only wants an Ivy guy who is a banker/lawyer/doctor. While she is thin and dresses well she is also 32. Majority of the guys in that demographic are looking for a 25 year old. It is terrible and she seriously just needs to slum it with the IU Bloomington guy who makes 6 figures but she never will. And end up alone.
Anonymous
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MaxwellSmart wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:does she have clubs she could join? running, biking, soccer? Can your dh"s introduce her to someone>

my friend is in the same position. When she says something in wanting of a future I don't say stuff like like you have time, try this try that. I usually just say you will have a family. Just believe that. You will meet somebody.
There was a seminar I saw online recently abt how to network when single and I sent it to my friend. Surprisingly she was very grateful. I think it is hard out there. Btw, my friend is hugely successful, very tall and very pretty. I don't get it. I think she may just be too confident.


Very tall is not a good thing in the dating world - take it from someone who is five eight. It means I am taller than many of the men in this town.


She could move to Haymarket, Va., as it seems every guy there is at least six feet tall!

So what? I just couldn't base something so important on something so meaningless.


I'm guessing you are five six or shorter. I am fine with dating guys shorter than me. They do not want to date me, however. Trust. Being taller limits your dating options.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I think this message is too basic. I am pushing 30, have lived half way around the world by myself, dated a lot, have a great career and apartment, have no problems going to the movies or dinner, etc by myself, but for the love of God, if this is the rest of my life, I am going to be disappointed.

I am constantly being told this or hear this (not that I complain about being single often because I don't want the pity)...but this is a huge part of life that I won't get to experience if I don't find someone.


Then start asking men out.
Anonymous
Places and activities where I met men in the DC area: scuba diving lessons and trips, running club and hashing, bourbon (whiskey, beer) tastings, Chinese language classes, music festivals, dog parks. My best place of course was Irish bars because I like Guinness and that was actually how I met my husband.

Activities where I met zero men but still had fun: cooking classes (couples and women), French language classes (mostly women and senior citizens), hiking club (old), knitting lessons (duh), Habitat for Humanity (married, old), soup kitchens (women with kids).

I do echo the commonsense wisdom to try to at least re-examine preconceived notions about appearance, education, income in favor of personality and values. My now-husband didn't have a college degree when we met, but had a ton of specialized work experience and a great personality. He jokes about how many DC women were too focused on jobs and status to give him a chance. Worked out great for us!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It's not my ideal to have my children conceived in a petri dish with a dude that was lrftover.


Too bad for you. Life isn't a smorgasbord for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It's not my ideal to have my children conceived in a petri dish with a dude that was lrftover.


???? Being single is no excuse to be a bitch to others who are trying to offer helpful advice. Let me give you another tip that might help you be a little more successful in the dating world: People are attracted to happy, positive people. Sounds like you might have some work to do before you're staring down the petri dish yourself.


Why would any man with options want to procreate with a dried up, leftover, bitchy, over the hill woman like this one? She needs a serious attitude check.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they hesitate to go online bc it's genuinely unpleasant. Sure there are some nice guys out there but you have to sift through a lot of sleazebags.


This is how women end up single in their early 30s, because they're turning down perfectly good suitors while hoping Prince Charming will appear to whisk them away.


obviously you have never dated online. neither did i, but i followed closely my best friend's adventures.

online dating is a whole different level of hell. luckily i am married, but if i were single i would not do online dating. it's demeaning, and soul crushing.


You're right, that's why I don't online date. It's not only a big waste of time but totally skewed to benefit women. I prefer to, gasp, ask women out in person. Even if I don't bat 1.000, it's still better than the laziness known as online dating.
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