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[Post New]07/28/2014 23:39
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Anonymous wrote:PP, are those hate videos sponsored by the Israeli government? That is the point! Hamas sponsors hate.


Hamas is the embodiment of hate and intolerance.

Hamas is a designated terrorist organization. Their leaders should be treated like we treat al Caida terrorists: drone strikes.
[Post New]07/28/2014 23:41
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Muslima wrote:
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Muslima wrote:
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Muslima wrote:

This is Chavka Fulman-Raban, one of the last survivors of the Warsaw Ghetto, she calls for a rebellion against the Israeili occupation:


Rebel against the Occupation. No–it is forbidden for us to rule over another people, to oppress another [people]. The most important thing is to achieve peace and an end to the cycle of blood[letting]. My generation dreamed of peace. I so want to achieve it. You have the power to help. All my hopes are with you. If only [you could]. - Chavka Fulman-Raban, arrested and imprisoned at Auschwitz, two of her family members died as resistance fighters.

http://kafila.org/2014/07/21/last-of-warsaw-ghetto-survivors-calls-for-rebellion-against-israeli-occupation/


This was from 2013

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/347682


So? It's still relevant


Do you really not understand how disingenuous it is to post this as if this person is commenting on what is going on today, when she is not?


No, it is not. This article resurfaced at the beginning of this conflict. I clearly posted the link and source of the article. We have been discussing things that have been happening for the past 60+years in case you didn't know. This is not a conflict that started yesterday but over 60 years ago. So yea, an article from 2013 is clearly relevant


Being misleading in this way only damages the little credibility you have left.
[Post New]07/28/2014 23:50
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:

This is Chavka Fulman-Raban, one of the last survivors of the Warsaw Ghetto, she calls for a rebellion against the Israeili occupation:


Rebel against the Occupation. No–it is forbidden for us to rule over another people, to oppress another [people]. The most important thing is to achieve peace and an end to the cycle of blood[letting]. My generation dreamed of peace. I so want to achieve it. You have the power to help. All my hopes are with you. If only [you could]. - Chavka Fulman-Raban, arrested and imprisoned at Auschwitz, two of her family members died as resistance fighters.

http://kafila.org/2014/07/21/last-of-warsaw-ghetto-survivors-calls-for-rebellion-against-israeli-occupation/


This was from 2013

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/347682


So? It's still relevant


Do you really not understand how disingenuous it is to post this as if this person is commenting on what is going on today, when she is not?


No, it is not. This article resurfaced at the beginning of this conflict. I clearly posted the link and source of the article. We have been discussing things that have been happening for the past 60+years in case you didn't know. This is not a conflict that started yesterday but over 60 years ago. So yea, an article from 2013 is clearly relevant


Being misleading in this way only damages the little credibility you have left.


Muslima has a lot more credibility than an insecure poster who tries to turn every thread or post that touches upon the Israeli killing machine into a referendum on Hamas. Tell your Jewish friends in Jerusalem to lighten up on the child-killing, please.
[Post New]07/28/2014 23:57
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Anonymous
Burn in hell, Hamas hate mongers and the Gazans that elected them. Fight on IDF. Stop the blood-thirsty monsters intent on slaughtering every innocent Jew within reach of their Iranian bombs and rat tunnels.
[Post New]07/29/2014 07:28
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You know PP - you do nothing for your cause by posting on every single Palestine thread with a reference to the people of those countries as rats and roaches worthy of extermination. I'm not sure what your point is other than to dehumanize yourself.
[Post New]07/29/2014 07:29
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Anonymous wrote:Muslima, you really need a job. Or a hobby. Or both.


No, you just need to vet photos before you distribute them with your (false) commentary.
You are passing off the photo of a Kurdish girl from 2009 as a current photo of a child in Palestine.

Stuff like that just hurts real efforts to humanize the Palestinians. Something that is really important.
So please look at your sources.
[Post New]07/29/2014 09:16
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, you really need a job. Or a hobby. Or both.


No, you just need to vet photos before you distribute them with your (false) commentary.
You are passing off the photo of a Kurdish girl from 2009 as a current photo of a child in Palestine.

Stuff like that just hurts real efforts to humanize the Palestinians. Something that is really important.
So please look at your sources.


Please forgive my humanity.
[Post New]07/29/2014 09:44
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, you really need a job. Or a hobby. Or both.


No, you just need to vet photos before you distribute them with your (false) commentary.
You are passing off the photo of a Kurdish girl from 2009 as a current photo of a child in Palestine.

Stuff like that just hurts real efforts to humanize the Palestinians. Something that is really important.
So please look at your sources.


Please forgive my humanity.


You are forgiven. That does not explain or excuse dishonesty or intentionally misleading posts.

The point here is not "win any way you can - even through lies." The point is to honor the truth. Argue honestly if you seek credibility here.
[Post New]07/29/2014 09:49
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, you really need a job. Or a hobby. Or both.


No, you just need to vet photos before you distribute them with your (false) commentary.
You are passing off the photo of a Kurdish girl from 2009 as a current photo of a child in Palestine.

Stuff like that just hurts real efforts to humanize the Palestinians. Something that is really important.
So please look at your sources.


Please forgive my humanity.


You are forgiven. That does not explain or excuse dishonesty or intentionally misleading posts.

The point here is not "win any way you can - even through lies." The point is to honor the truth. Argue honestly if you seek credibility here.


There is no dishonesty or intentionally misleading people in any of my posts. I told the pp who pointed that that picture was from Turkey that I didn't know as its been forwarded to me. If this is the only thing you can rehash over and after a dozen pages, be my guest. This is my last post on the issue, children are dying as we speak, I choose to focus my energy on other things.
[Post New]07/29/2014 09:56
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The only power plant supplying electricity to the Gaza Strip was knocked out of commission by Israeli shelling, deputy director of the energy authority in the Palestinian territory said Tuesday. Israel is systematically and clinically destroying Gaza's civilian infrastructure. The shelling of the only power plant in Gaza and subsequent fires have rendered it useless.

By tonight the majority of the people of Gaza will be without electricity..slowly their means of communication with the outside world are being shut down. 

“Gaza's sole power plant has stopped working due to Israeli shelling last night, which damaged the steam generator and later hit the fuel tanks which set them on fire,” Fathi al-Sheikh Khalil told AFP

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2014/07/29/Gaza-s-sole-power-plant-down-after-Israel-attack-authority.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2014/07/29/Gaza-s-sole-power-plant-down-after-Israel-attack-authority.html

What's it like being Muslim? Well, it's hard to find a decent halal pizza place and occasionally there is a hashtag calling for your genocide...
[Post New]07/29/2014 10:06
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Muslima, how would you recommend Israel eliminate Hamas (or at least eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians) without any adverse effect on Gaza's civilian population?
[Post New]07/29/2014 10:25
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Anonymous wrote:Muslima, how would you recommend Israel eliminate Hamas (or at least eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians) without any adverse effect on Gaza's civilian population?

Why do you think Hamas needs to be eliminated?
[Post New]07/29/2014 10:34
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, how would you recommend Israel eliminate Hamas (or at least eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians) without any adverse effect on Gaza's civilian population?

Why do you think Hamas needs to be eliminated?


Because they are a terrorist organization with the primary goal of eradicating Israel and establishing an Islamist regime in the region.
[Post New]07/29/2014 10:39
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, how would you recommend Israel eliminate Hamas (or at least eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians) without any adverse effect on Gaza's civilian population?

Why do you think Hamas needs to be eliminated?


Because they are a terrorist organization with the primary goal of eradicating Israel and establishing an Islamist regime in the region.


That's not true.
[Post New]07/29/2014 10:42
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, how would you recommend Israel eliminate Hamas (or at least eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians) without any adverse effect on Gaza's civilian population?

Why do you think Hamas needs to be eliminated?


Do you think it's okay that Jew-killing is an explicit part of Hamas's charter?

I'm a new poster here and am deeply conflicted. I am a Jew. I am absolutely NOT OKAY with killing civilians and children. Duh. But I also think that Palestinians are suffering for having elected a party that has as part of its platform killing another ethnicity. Can we stop ignoring that? Can we stop pretending that Hamas wouldn't bomb the hell out of Israel if they could?

If Hamas explicitly disavowed violence towards Jews -- or heck, even just eliminated it from its charter -- I'd feel a lot more convinced that Israel had another option.
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