Why do black people self-segregate?

Anonymous
youngblackdude wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African American woman here. I find that white people try VERY hard to act nice to me/us, as if they feel they have to be nice to us for lynching our people way back in the day. It's ok, I forgive, now act normal.


Lol


White gal here. This is so true! I tend to feel this white guilt for all past injustices against blacks and find myself over-compensating.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First of all, segregation was a social and political SYSTEM that was an expression of white power that oppressed, exploited a critical mass of black people, so it is inappropriate and quite off to say that blacks are "self-segregating themselves."

Furthermore, whites create and maintain spaces for themselves all the time. Historically, when Blacks have entered white spaces it has often resulted in violence against them. So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves. Other ethnic groups create their own cultural spaces too, and are not questioned.

Thirdly, it is the epitome of white privilege that would allow someone to actually pose such a question.

Fourth, if you are genuinely interested, please read some history books by authors such as Akinyele Umoja and Hasan Jeffries.


What is Second?


Boo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First of all, segregation was a social and political SYSTEM that was an expression of white power that oppressed, exploited a critical mass of black people, so it is inappropriate and quite off to say that blacks are "self-segregating themselves."

Furthermore, whites create and maintain spaces for themselves all the time. Historically, when Blacks have entered white spaces it has often resulted in violence against them. So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves. Other ethnic groups create their own cultural spaces too, and are not questioned.

Thirdly, it is the epitome of white privilege that would allow someone to actually pose such a question.

Fourth, if you are genuinely interested, please read some history books by authors such as Akinyele Umoja and Hasan Jeffries.


PREACH!!! Dying to know your ethnicity now...


Clue:

"So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First of all, segregation was a social and political SYSTEM that was an expression of white power that oppressed, exploited a critical mass of black people, so it is inappropriate and quite off to say that blacks are "self-segregating themselves."

Furthermore, whites create and maintain spaces for themselves all the time. Historically, when Blacks have entered white spaces it has often resulted in violence against them. So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves. Other ethnic groups create their own cultural spaces too, and are not questioned.

Thirdly, it is the epitome of white privilege that would allow someone to actually pose such a question.

Fourth, if you are genuinely interested, please read some history books by authors such as Akinyele Umoja and Hasan Jeffries.


PREACH!!! Dying to know your ethnicity now...


Clue:

"So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves."


You can marry me now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First of all, segregation was a social and political SYSTEM that was an expression of white power that oppressed, exploited a critical mass of black people, so it is inappropriate and quite off to say that blacks are "self-segregating themselves."

Furthermore, whites create and maintain spaces for themselves all the time. Historically, when Blacks have entered white spaces it has often resulted in violence against them. So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves. Other ethnic groups create their own cultural spaces too, and are not questioned.

Thirdly, it is the epitome of white privilege that would allow someone to actually pose such a question.

Fourth, if you are genuinely interested, please read some history books by authors such as Akinyele Umoja and Hasan Jeffries.


Fifth, those four points are BS. Your body your choice, just don't blame the universe for what you/ others choose to do in 2014.



Uh, what universe have you been living in? Do you have ANY knowledge of US history? The past informs the present.


You mean you were born a slave?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:First of all, segregation was a social and political SYSTEM that was an expression of white power that oppressed, exploited a critical mass of black people, so it is inappropriate and quite off to say that blacks are "self-segregating themselves."

Furthermore, whites create and maintain spaces for themselves all the time. Historically, when Blacks have entered white spaces it has often resulted in violence against them. So when blacks are too themselves now, it is because these are safe and normal cultural spaces where we can be ourselves. Other ethnic groups create their own cultural spaces too, and are not questioned.

Thirdly, it is the epitome of white privilege that would allow someone to actually pose such a question.

Fourth, if you are genuinely interested, please read some history books by authors such as Akinyele Umoja and Hasan Jeffries.


This is what slavery means today, instead of your blah blah blah:
http://www.state.gov/j/tip/what/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:African American woman here. I find that white people try VERY hard to act nice to me/us, as if they feel they have to be nice to us for lynching our people way back in the day. It's ok, I forgive, now act normal.


I don't feel the need to feel sorry for any black person. I'm first generation - no guilt.

I don't feel sorry for my students either. Once you start feeling sorry for anyone, you enable him//her. The point is to empower my students, not to let them slide by.

You want real, see me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How come when a group of friends get together who happen to be black it's called "SELF SEGREGATION" but when a group of white people get together it's called a luau or a backyard bbq?


or a klan meeting
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black people prefer to be with their own people. White people can't do that. It's racist.


So they tend to have one black friend as to avoid being labeled a racist.


Hey, the one-black-friend credibility works on sitcoms and commercials. At least that's what the marketing executives would have us believe.


the token

I was watching Full House with my kid the other night when suddenly Michelle had a black friend!

And when Friends was big, Living Single was its black counterpart. funny thing is - I think Living Single was on BEFORE Friends.

So even Hollywood buys into the whole "segregation" topic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question, NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE. I'm just perplexed that the AA community in my experience tends to be so cliquey and only socializes among themselves. I see this all the time in the workplace, and I saw it in college too. I mean, black fraternities and black sororities in college was understandable, because the AA community had to endure the Jim Crow era and most other minority groups emigrated to America after the civil rights movement. But while I've always managed to establish surface-friendly connections with black classmates and black colleagues, it's not like they invite me to movies or summer barbeques or get drinks with me every week - but classmates and colleagues of other races intermingle so easily. (I'm a white female, early thirties, married to a white male).

Even if you look at Silicon Valley (where we lived before moving to DC), you see every race intermingling and starting companies and new products in the tech industry, except from the AA community.

Is it self-segregation? AA people live in their own bubble and their own sub-culture and don't really come out of it. And they view you with wariness and a sense of uncertainty even when you're being really nice and friendly to them, and they're being nice and friendly back to you - but still that uncertainty is there and you can see it in their eyes. "Like, who is this girl? I don't feel comfortable talking to her." I've had that experience repeatedly with AA women - never with women of other groups.

Again, I'm NOT trying to offend, this is just something that I have observed personally.


Ain't nobody stopping you from getting to know people don't gimme that bullshit about curious glares and odd stares, if you lighten your own ass up you can run your mouth all day long and have a decent conversation with anybody - black, white, blue, green, whatever. It's muthaf#kas like you that perpetuate segregation cause you swear others are just soooo different and the barriers that separate people are just soooo enormous. Please...
You got kids the lady next door got kids what the hell more do you need in common? You got corns the lady in your office got corns what's stopping y'all from chatting? Oh...that's right...you want black people to strike up a conversation with you...you want the colored folk to engage you and embrace you...you want them n#ggers to love them some massa. Lol - look if you concentrate on the race as a whole then you're gonna look AT blacks as things and if you look at people like they are things then you got damn right they will look at you with some uncertainty in their eyes. Look at people for who they are as a person, respect them as an individual and they will embrace you more.
Anonymous
People are enjoying throwing things tonight. I wonder if it's all this thread or others are like it, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question, NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE. I'm just perplexed that the AA community in my experience tends to be so cliquey and only socializes among themselves. I see this all the time in the workplace, and I saw it in college too. I mean, black fraternities and black sororities in college was understandable, because the AA community had to endure the Jim Crow era and most other minority groups emigrated to America after the civil rights movement. But while I've always managed to establish surface-friendly connections with black classmates and black colleagues, it's not like they invite me to movies or summer barbeques or get drinks with me every week - but classmates and colleagues of other races intermingle so easily. (I'm a white female, early thirties, married to a white male).

Even if you look at Silicon Valley (where we lived before moving to DC), you see every race intermingling and starting companies and new products in the tech industry, except from the AA community.

Is it self-segregation? AA people live in their own bubble and their own sub-culture and don't really come out of it. And they view you with wariness and a sense of uncertainty even when you're being really nice and friendly to them, and they're being nice and friendly back to you - but still that uncertainty is there and you can see it in their eyes. "Like, who is this girl? I don't feel comfortable talking to her." I've had that experience repeatedly with AA women - never with women of other groups.

Again, I'm NOT trying to offend, this is just something that I have observed personally.


Ain't nobody stopping you from getting to know people don't gimme that bullshit about curious glares and odd stares, if you lighten your own ass up you can run your mouth all day long and have a decent conversation with anybody - black, white, blue, green, whatever. It's muthaf#kas like you that perpetuate segregation cause you swear others are just soooo different and the barriers that separate people are just soooo enormous. Please...
You got kids the lady next door got kids what the hell more do you need in common? You got corns the lady in your office got corns what's stopping y'all from chatting? Oh...that's right...you want black people to strike up a conversation with you...you want the colored folk to engage you and embrace you...you want them n#ggers to love them some massa. Lol - look if you concentrate on the race as a whole then you're gonna look AT blacks as things and if you look at people like they are things then you got damn right they will look at you with some uncertainty in their eyes. Look at people for who they are as a person, respect them as an individual and they will embrace you more.


Thanks, Toni Morrison
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Anonymous wrote:
youngblackdude wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African American woman here. I find that white people try VERY hard to act nice to me/us, as if they feel they have to be nice to us for lynching our people way back in the day. It's ok, I forgive, now act normal.


Lol


White gal here. This is so true! I tend to feel this white guilt for all past injustices against blacks and find myself over-compensating.


Be yourself ...you owe us nothing
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question, NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE. I'm just perplexed that the AA community in my experience tends to be so cliquey and only socializes among themselves. I see this all the time in the workplace, and I saw it in college too. I mean, black fraternities and black sororities in college was understandable, because the AA community had to endure the Jim Crow era and most other minority groups emigrated to America after the civil rights movement. But while I've always managed to establish surface-friendly connections with black classmates and black colleagues, it's not like they invite me to movies or summer barbeques or get drinks with me every week - but classmates and colleagues of other races intermingle so easily. (I'm a white female, early thirties, married to a white male).

Even if you look at Silicon Valley (where we lived before moving to DC), you see every race intermingling and starting companies and new products in the tech industry, except from the AA community.

Is it self-segregation? AA people live in their own bubble and their own sub-culture and don't really come out of it. And they view you with wariness and a sense of uncertainty even when you're being really nice and friendly to them, and they're being nice and friendly back to you - but still that uncertainty is there and you can see it in their eyes. "Like, who is this girl? I don't feel comfortable talking to her." I've had that experience repeatedly with AA women - never with women of other groups.

Again, I'm NOT trying to offend, this is just something that I have observed personally.


Ain't nobody stopping you from getting to know people don't gimme that bullshit about curious glares and odd stares, if you lighten your own ass up you can run your mouth all day long and have a decent conversation with anybody - black, white, blue, green, whatever. It's muthaf#kas like you that perpetuate segregation cause you swear others are just soooo different and the barriers that separate people are just soooo enormous. Please...
You got kids the lady next door got kids what the hell more do you need in common? You got corns the lady in your office got corns what's stopping y'all from chatting? Oh...that's right...you want black people to strike up a conversation with you...you want the colored folk to engage you and embrace you...you want them n#ggers to love them some massa. Lol - look if you concentrate on the race as a whole then you're gonna look AT blacks as things and if you look at people like they are things then you got damn right they will look at you with some uncertainty in their eyes. Look at people for who they are as a person, respect them as an individual and they will embrace you more.


Tyler Perry, is that you?
Anonymous
youngblackdude wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
youngblackdude wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African American woman here. I find that white people try VERY hard to act nice to me/us, as if they feel they have to be nice to us for lynching our people way back in the day. It's ok, I forgive, now act normal.


Lol


White gal here. This is so true! I tend to feel this white guilt for all past injustices against blacks and find myself over-compensating.


Be yourself ...you owe us nothing


No... They owe me a raise.
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