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[Post New]12/14/2011 11:50
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it safe to estimate that there are thousands of people who would happily adopt OP's baby?


Assuming OP and her husband are white, and her baby has no special needs.

Why all the compassion and eagerness to help a blob of cells, but not living, breathing children that are in the foster system? You are telling them that this little embryo the size of a pinhead is more important than them. Disgusting.


the blob of cells won't be a child just because you don't want to. the same way, you can compress a pillow on the face of the suffering children to make them stop suffering and disturbing the society.

easy, huh?


No, because a blob of cells is not the same as an already-born suffering child. That's my point. You believe they are equal. I do not.


Oh, and by your logic, by failing to get pregnant this month, one egg will be flushed out of my body and will not become a child simply because I don't want it to be a child. If that's the same to you as suffocating a child (and you seem to think it is) then you frighten me.


An egg is not a child. I never said that. Same thing your husband's (or any junk you hook up with) sperm cells are not children. Not yet.
[Post New]12/14/2011 11:55
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't it safe to estimate that there are thousands of people who would happily adopt OP's baby?


Assuming OP and her husband are white, and her baby has no special needs.

Why all the compassion and eagerness to help a blob of cells, but not living, breathing children that are in the foster system? You are telling them that this little embryo the size of a pinhead is more important than them. Disgusting.


the blob of cells won't be a child just because you don't want to. the same way, you can compress a pillow on the face of the suffering children to make them stop suffering and disturbing the society.

easy, huh?


No, because a blob of cells is not the same as an already-born suffering child. That's my point. You believe they are equal. I do not.


Oh, and by your logic, by failing to get pregnant this month, one egg will be flushed out of my body and will not become a child simply because I don't want it to be a child. If that's the same to you as suffocating a child (and you seem to think it is) then you frighten me.


Thats not the same thing as a 6 week old pregnancy.
[Post New]12/14/2011 12:12
Anonymous
Can we move this thread to politics? This has no relevance to parenting, except it's extremely tenuous relationship to yesterday's thread (which only asked for women's personal experiences, not for this nonsense).
[Post New]12/14/2011 12:14
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP has merely provided additional information. I believe her stance is extreme but it is not malicious in any way.


Maybe not "malicious", but I feel truly baffled that she, and apparently others, cannot see how manipulative and self-serving this post is. I don't know why this thread is not being shut down.


Please explain how this is manipulative? Honest question.


She is saying that abortion is not a legitimate choice in response to an unplanned pregnancy (perhaps it's not in the OP's belief system, but it is a legal option and not everyone shares her belief system) but couching it an a way that looks compassionate (I'll adopt your baby!) , but has absolutely zero chance of happening. Does anyone, including the OP of this thread, honestly think she's going to place her baby for adoption with some random person on the internet? Of course not. (How do you explain THAT one to your friends and family? Have some sense, people. An abortion can be kept private. A pregnancy cannot.) So if the original OP is not going to allow someone to adopt her baby (or at least, someone from DCUM for chrissakes), the true purpose of this thread is to make her feel guilty enough to follow through with the pregnancy. (Because there are GOOD mothers out there who would raise the baby, unlike the BAD mother, the OP!) Let's be real, here.

And to the OP of this thread-- if you really, truly think that someone is going to hand over their baby because of a post on the internet, then maybe you aren't manipulative. You are just plain nuts.


Ok, you're pro-abortion, we get it. OP was just addressing some of the pregnant poster's concerns, just as some of the pro-choice posters were addressing her concerns. Just because you don't agree with OP doesn't make her manipulative or nuts.


No, nobody thinks that a woman is going to hand over her baby because of a post on the internet. Put a little thought into it PP...do you think maybe they would meet in person and discuss it and exchange lots of information and do a homestudy and on and on...


Just because I don't think that people should harrass women who have scheduled an abortion doesn't make me "pro-abortion", but nice rhetoric.

And do I think they will meet in person, blah blah blah... no, I don't. This is not a Lifetime movie.
[Post New]12/14/2011 12:16
Anonymous
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No, because a blob of cells is not the same as an already-born suffering child. That's my point. You believe they are equal. I do not.


And who is right, who is wrong? Just in case let's kill them all.

But the point to pro-choice is that every pregnant woman has the right to make that choice for herself. She shouldn't be mandated or manipulated into making that choice by others.

I agree that Jeff should take this thread down. It's turning into the pro-life manipulation thread. DCUM really should not let the abortion cancer grow on these fora.
[Post New]12/14/2011 12:35
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I wanted to give the OP of this thread the opportunity to state her case which I believe to have been heartfelt and sincere (if a bit naive). But, now that she has had that opportunity and the thread is veering off-topic, I think it's time to lock the thread. Those of you who wish to debate abortion are welcome to do so in the political forum.
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[Post New]12/14/2011 12:35
Anonymous
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No, because a blob of cells is not the same as an already-born suffering child. That's my point. You believe they are equal. I do not.


And who is right, who is wrong? Just in case let's kill them all.


But the point to pro-choice is that every pregnant woman has the right to make that choice for herself. She shouldn't be mandated or manipulated into making that choice by others.

I agree that Jeff should take this thread down. It's turning into the pro-life manipulation thread. DCUM really should not let the abortion cancer grow on these fora.

But, women don't make these choices in a vacuum. In order to make a free choice, she needs to understand the possibilities. Since when is offering help a manipulation? Doesn't it exemplify the meaning of choice? Of fully understanding all your options? Would you rather a woman considering termination believe that no one would help her with the new baby? Or, perhaps you truly believe that no one WOULD really help her -- I don't know -- so that she better not make a decision based on false information.

Honestly I think most of us would prefer that the "abortion cancer" stopped growing on these threads, in our communities, in our nation and in our world. We should all be helping each other to end this cancer in whatever loving, genuine, and non-judgemental ways we can.
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