Anonymous wrote:Jeff said it as well as anyone. I've nothing to add other than that OP might want to read his column and reflect on it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/06/18/update061825

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Anonymous wrote:Jeff said it as well as anyone. I've nothing to add other than that OP might want to read his column and reflect on it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/06/18/update061825

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

So no matter what form that Zionism takes or how much any American Jews oppose the occupation and the apocalyptic lunatics who run the country now, it’s a problem if we don’t want to just eliminate the state?

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.

Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.

NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.

Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i

I think the US has dealt well with those cases and people have a lot of sympathy for them. I don't see what this has to do with disliking what our Country and Israel is doing in the middle east. Most of us feel that if Israel behaved better towards the rest of the world, than people here would be in less of an easy target.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.

Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.

NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.

Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i

I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

So no matter what form that Zionism takes or how much any American Jews oppose the occupation and the apocalyptic lunatics who run the country now, it’s a problem if we don’t want to just eliminate the state?

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Ok. Jews are literal Nazis, got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Ok. Jews are literal Nazis, got it.

Havaara agreement is antisemitic, got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff said it as well as anyone. I've nothing to add other than that OP might want to read his column and reflect on it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/06/18/update061825

Jeff is not Jewish so I’m confused as to why Jeff would be telling OP how to feel?