Hayfield Football Coach Fired

FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely terrified she will be called racist


I can't see why. Nobody is doing that here when someone brings up legitimate concerns.


Seriously? Maybe read some of the comment from the Hayfield parents.


Kind of went over your head, didn't it?


No, it didn't. I saw it was a sarcastic response. But too many FreeField parents would have treated it as the truth.
Anonymous
So who here thinks that by tonight’s letter, FCPS just hired the Blankenship law firm again to do the “external” investigation- more money to Cafferty?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop making this political. This is about fair play and expecting the superintendent to care about all FCPS kids, not just Hayfield’s.
You are right that the problem is not political, but the solution necessarily involves politics. B/c the SB has to change to get some accountability from Gatehouse. The current lot backs Reid 100%, which is why she felt comfortable sending that ridiculous letter. If this thread doesn’t realize this, then you are all just spitting into the wind.

BTW, this is a great thread w/a lot passion, but relatively small potatoes compared to the real damage coming out of Gatehouse. Go visit some of threads on skills based grading (SBG), those will make your head spin.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.


What letter?
Anonymous
Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?
Anonymous
Someone else posted this in other FCPS thread, but maybe worth dropping in here too:

For those that ever need to their contact info:

Superintendent : mcreid@fcps.edu
Chief of Schools : gjponce@fcps.edu
Legal Counsel : jefoster@fcps.edu
Chief of Staff : mksmith@fcps.edu

Chair : karl.frisch@fcps.edu
At Large : rkmcdaniel@fcps.ed
At Large : rlmcelveen@fcps.edu
At Large : imoon@fcps.edu
Braddock : rsizemorehei@fcps.edu
Hunter Mill : mkmeren@fcps.edu
Dranesville : ralady1@fcps.edu
Mason : rjanderson@fcps.edu
Springfield : sbanderson@fcps.edu
Franconia : mstjohncunni@fcps.edu
Mount Vernon : mdunne@fcps.edu
Sully : sdixit@fcps.edu
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?


FCPS looked at 14 residences for students who registered at Hatfield. VHSL looked at 24 students in connection with recruiting violations and spirit of game violations across 2 different schools. That FCPS found no issues does not change what VHSL found.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?


FCPS looked at 14 residences for students who registered at Hatfield. VHSL looked at 24 students in connection with recruiting violations and spirit of game violations across 2 different schools. That FCPS found no issues does not change what VHSL found.


Also the Reid "investigation" had the investigators informing the players when they would be coming to their homes to confirm residency. This has been widely reported and confirmed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If people were maga, they would support hayfield and FCPS violating rules and fair play.
I voted for Trump 3x (really as a protest, given Va polls). And I think Overton and the Hayfield principal should be fired immediately. So, it doesn’t break the way you think.


NP and same views. This is not political.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.


What letter?


November 20, 2024

Dear FCPS Community,

I am writing to address the continued — and troubling — misinformation being shared regarding this high school football season, and more specifically about the Hayfield Hawks football team. I also want to share with you our plan moving forward regarding this situation.

Let me begin by saying that all of our coaches, our school leaders, our community, and the Virginia High School League (VHSL) share a commitment to the success of our student athletes. We want our students to have passion for their sport and to play every game with integrity and sportsmanship above all else.

The VHSL is an important organization that has the tremendous responsibility of overseeing high school sports and other competitions across the Commonwealth. We appreciate the work they do, but in this situation, we share the frustration that many of our staff and families are feeling.

In August of this year, VHSL deemed eligible every player who has played this season on the Hayfield Hawks football team. Two months later, the VHSL declared the entire team ineligible for postseason play without any specific evidence of recruiting or other violations. Coaches, athletes, parents, and fans are frustrated by the circumstances that their teams are in now, because of the ambiguities within the VHSL’s rules and policies.

Last week, these inconsistencies were confirmed by the Fairfax County Circuit Court judge who, after a nearly two-hour hearing, ruled that Hayfield football could play in the postseason and that VHSL had violated its own rules by imposing a two-year ban. FCPS and Hayfield Secondary School are not parties to this litigation, but we will comply with the court ruling and allow Hayfield football to play in the postseason.

Last night, at their request, I met with coaches and principals whose school communities have been most directly impacted by this situation. During this productive meeting, we focused on our common goal to keep our student athletes at the center of any next steps. I have been clear that we will not find ourselves in this situation again.

To that end, and to minimize the potential of future questions or concerns, and to restore public trust, I have outlined the next steps we will be taking as a Division to ensure that our standards for student-athlete eligibility are clear and aligned moving forward. These steps include:

A comprehensive and independent external investigation and review of all student athlete transfers and eligibility practices across all sports and in all of our high schools.

A review and revision, where necessary, to FCPS athletic protocols and procedures. Led by the Office of Student Activities and Athletics programs, and in partnership with coaches and administrators, this will include a divisionwide review of current practices in evaluating student athlete transfers both inside and outside of the Division.

Alongside our Executive Director of Student Activities and Athletics, I will be hosting two Community Conversations, one for our schools in Class 6 Region C and one for our schools in Class 6 Region D, regarding our athletic regulations and practices. We’ll be sharing more information about those meetings soon and hope you will attend.

We also stand ready to work with the VHSL to improve their policies and processes on student-athlete eligibility. It is vital that we collaborate with everyone involved to ensure we are preparing for the evolution of the student-athlete experience that we are seeing in our country. As we navigate uncharted waters ahead in youth athletics, we must anchor our practices in clear rules and accountability systems that apply to all regardless of circumstances. Access to excellence and opportunity — that is the American dream.

Warmest Regards,



Dr. Michelle C. Reid
Superintendent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?


She keeps conflating the two issues at play here. FCPS investigated "eligibility" (e.g. were kids living where they said they were etc.). They cleared entire program stating that all 15-30 (or however many) transfers met FCPS eligibility guidelines. Unclear how exhaustive that investigation was and many people have pointed out its flaws but let's stipulate.

VHSL's ban was for an ENTIRELY different reason - recruiting (or "proselytizing" as it's unhelpfully called in their rules) - i.e., that Hayfield coaches/administrations inappropriately approached players about transferring to Hayfield district. It was this blatant breaking of VHSL rules that resulted in post-season ban. VHSL just tripped up on its own process (it was supposed to enact original punishment by committee vote versus individual decision) - which is typical jurisprudence nonsense these days resulted in injunction until Dec 4th.

Why Reid cannot just say this is beyond me. i.e., we looked into one thing, cleared them and VHSL not disputing. VHSL looked into something else and found violations. She seems to be saying we looked into our thing and so everything else should be disregarded and tripling down on bad behavior and injustice for 180,000 - 2000 students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?


Honest answer - because the cheating coach and the players and their families are from a certain community that is "disadvantaged" and therefore consider themselves above the rules, and Superintendent Reid is a die-hard progressive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?


Honest answer - because the cheating coach and the players and their families are from a certain community that is "disadvantaged" and therefore consider themselves above the rules, and Superintendent Reid is a die-hard progressive.


That could be it. Or using Occam's razor, she's just dumb. Maybe she just doesn't know the difference between eligibility and recruiting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?


She keeps conflating the two issues at play here. FCPS investigated "eligibility" (e.g. were kids living where they said they were etc.). They cleared entire program stating that all 15-30 (or however many) transfers met FCPS eligibility guidelines. Unclear how exhaustive that investigation was and many people have pointed out its flaws but let's stipulate.

VHSL's ban was for an ENTIRELY different reason - recruiting (or "proselytizing" as it's unhelpfully called in their rules) - i.e., that Hayfield coaches/administrations inappropriately approached players about transferring to Hayfield district. It was this blatant breaking of VHSL rules that resulted in post-season ban. VHSL just tripped up on its own process (it was supposed to enact original punishment by committee vote versus individual decision) - which is typical jurisprudence nonsense these days resulted in injunction until Dec 4th.

Why Reid cannot just say this is beyond me. i.e., we looked into one thing, cleared them and VHSL not disputing. VHSL looked into something else and found violations. She seems to be saying we looked into our thing and so everything else should be disregarded and tripling down on bad behavior and injustice for 180,000 - 2000 students.


Very well put.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.


What letter?


Parents got a emailed letter.
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