Hayfield Football Coach Fired

Anonymous
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.


If this ain’t the most biased article. Point blank Aziz sucked as a coach , his pass happy teams were mediocre at best, while at Falls Church yes he was able to beat some schools that were worse but never a good win vs ANY measurable other team.
If he was sooooo good he could be hired as an assistant somewhere, perhaps he forgot he’s a county employee who teaches kids first and coaches second. So him saying he fears for his job is asanine, and just because you coached at one school doesn’t mean your automatically gifted another job elsewhere.

I wish this man could sue for some of the slander he’s had to endure. But I’m also sure he feels grateful n has gratitude towards FCPS for having his back. Remember he’s a first year county employee from another county, they don’t owe that man nothing.


It seems to me to be pretty unbiased. It just laid out facts. For example, "When Aziz, a veteran coach in the area, came to Hayfield in 2021, the team had won only two games total in the previous two years. Aziz turned things around and his squad finished atop its conference, the National District, all three seasons he was at the school."

Doesn't seem he "sucked" as a coach. Also, you, yet again, prove my prior comments correct. These Hayfield kids have no decent adult role models surrounding them. It really is a shame.


I remember reading in the Washington Post in 2013 that Aziz turned around the lackluster Falls Church HS football program that was at the bottom of the Northern Region for years, the very bottom. I think Aziz went to school there in the 80s or 90s. He was definitely one of the better public high school football coaches and very much in demand. He turned losing squads into winning ones seemingly overnight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:1. Narrow the number of playoff participants. A 3-7 team should not even sniff the playoffs.

2. If you're scared, forfeit.

3. Powerhouse teams come and go. Nobody wet their pants before.

4. Ballers ball. Whiners whine.

5. Winners win. Losers retreat.


It's not about being "scared", or being a "loser" it's about wasting time and energy, combined with the risk of injury to play a lying, cheating joke of a team. Enjoy your hollow victory. Even if Hayfield wins, they will be stripped of whatever title they earn after the December trail.
FrankWinston
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FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What we do know is that this season’s results will have an “asterisk” by it. And the Hayfield name is “stained”, even outside sports b/c the team represents the school, and the admin is in full support.


Ok. *shrug*


And this is the real problem in all of this...the "adults" at Hayfield just don't care about what has gone down, they just care about living out their lives through their kids' performance on a field because they've never accomplished anything of consequence on their own. What terrible examples they are setting for the kids at the school. Clearly it is a generational issue...the adults were raised wrong and now they're raising their kids wrong, teaching them it is ok to cheat, break the rules etc. It is really sad.


Mr. Winston

Who are you to judge another person’s character. What vested interest do you have in all of this? Comes off very judgmental wouldn’t you say?


DP. The Defender article was pretty judgmental. Hayfield is indefensible.


I don't think it was judgmental. I think it laid out the facts of the case clearly, which, as you noted, makes Hayfield, their supporters, and the folks who let this all happen (including parents, administrators and the school board) indefensible.


Of course you do Frank, of course you do. Isn’t it past your nap time or something. Does your son coach one of these teams? Your disdain for the program is evident, would you care to just keep mudslinging. Your views don’t make you nomore right than my views on the situation


Wow, how easy is it to get under your skin? I hope you aren't a parent as it appears you melt down immediately when called out. I merely made a statement of fact (not a view): the actions of those involved are indefensible and in turn you respond with childish comments like "isn't it past your naptime" (it is one word btw) and ad hominem attacks...how sad. Yet again, my previous comments hold up. I really feel for these Hayfield kids, they appear to have no decent adult role models in their lives. It is very sad.

Oh, and my views on this matter are far more right than yours as I am operating in a world of facts. You are operating in a world of lies and deflection. Now that this has become national news the only difference in the outcome of this story is that Hayfield Football, Overton, and those who enabled this whole thing will become a national joke rather than just a regional one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.


Written by the guy who wrote a really fascinating article on the back-and-forth of the NWLL scandal. He's a great storyteller and as with the NWLL article no one in the Hayfield story comes off looking particularly good except those on the periphery of the story.
Anonymous
To the poster writing things like: “what you had wrote,” “don’t make you nomore right”… please stop posting, you are not helping build support for Hayfield.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Narrow the number of playoff participants. A 3-7 team should not even sniff the playoffs.

2. If you're scared, forfeit.

3. Powerhouse teams come and go. Nobody wet their pants before.

4. Ballers ball. Whiners whine.

5. Winners win. Losers retreat.


It's not about being "scared", or being a "loser" it's about wasting time and energy, combined with the risk of injury to play a lying, cheating joke of a team. Enjoy your hollow victory. Even if Hayfield wins, they will be stripped of whatever title they earn after the December trail.

Kids are no more likely to get injured playing Hayfield, than the would be against Battlefield, W&L, Madison, or Westfield. Hayfield may be faster than those teams but they aren’t bigger.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.


Written by the guy who wrote a really fascinating article on the back-and-forth of the NWLL scandal. He's a great storyteller and as with the NWLL article no one in the Hayfield story comes off looking particularly good except those on the periphery of the story.


I enjoy McKenna as a writer and this piece, like his previous work, is on-point. I still remember the piece he did on lacrosse parents having their kids reclass and being floored by it.

This piece is going to turn Overton into a national punchline. I will be curious to see what kind of dumpster fire hires him after this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To the poster writing things like: “what you had wrote,” “don’t make you nomore right”… please stop posting, you are not helping build support for Hayfield.
Its obviously “baiting” so the race card can be played, when made fun of. Just ignore.
Anonymous
I’ll hope parents vote to not play. I think that will be the only way FCPS finally sees that their decisions and messaging so far has been wrong choice after wrong choice. Hayfield won’t care whatever any other high school does, so don’t play, don’t risk injury and win on integrity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ll hope parents vote to not play. I think that will be the only way FCPS finally sees that their decisions and messaging so far has been wrong choice after wrong choice. Hayfield won’t care whatever any other high school does, so don’t play, don’t risk injury and win on integrity.


How are parents voting not to play?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the poster writing things like: “what you had wrote,” “don’t make you nomore right”… please stop posting, you are not helping build support for Hayfield.
Its obviously “baiting” so the race card can be played, when made fun of. Just ignore.


The issues for debate are solely violation of league rules. There is nothing else on table.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll hope parents vote to not play. I think that will be the only way FCPS finally sees that their decisions and messaging so far has been wrong choice after wrong choice. Hayfield won’t care whatever any other high school does, so don’t play, don’t risk injury and win on integrity.


How are parents voting not to play?


Post above mentioning some schools discussing with their players and families.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.


If this ain’t the most biased article. Point blank Aziz sucked as a coach , his pass happy teams were mediocre at best, while at Falls Church yes he was able to beat some schools that were worse but never a good win vs ANY measurable other team.
If he was sooooo good he could be hired as an assistant somewhere, perhaps he forgot he’s a county employee who teaches kids first and coaches second. So him saying he fears for his job is asanine, and just because you coached at one school doesn’t mean your automatically gifted another job elsewhere.

I wish this man could sue for some of the slander he’s had to endure. But I’m also sure he feels grateful n has gratitude towards FCPS for having his back. Remember he’s a first year county employee from another county, they don’t owe that man nothing.


It seems to me to be pretty unbiased. It just laid out facts. For example, "When Aziz, a veteran coach in the area, came to Hayfield in 2021, the team had won only two games total in the previous two years. Aziz turned things around and his squad finished atop its conference, the National District, all three seasons he was at the school."

Doesn't seem he "sucked" as a coach. Also, you, yet again, prove my prior comments correct. These Hayfield kids have no decent adult role models surrounding them. It really is a shame.


I remember reading in the Washington Post in 2013 that Aziz turned around the lackluster Falls Church HS football program that was at the bottom of the Northern Region for years, the very bottom. I think Aziz went to school there in the 80s or 90s. He was definitely one of the better public high school football coaches and very much in demand. He turned losing squads into winning ones seemingly overnight.


Def false
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.


If this ain’t the most biased article. Point blank Aziz sucked as a coach , his pass happy teams were mediocre at best, while at Falls Church yes he was able to beat some schools that were worse but never a good win vs ANY measurable other team.
If he was sooooo good he could be hired as an assistant somewhere, perhaps he forgot he’s a county employee who teaches kids first and coaches second. So him saying he fears for his job is asanine, and just because you coached at one school doesn’t mean your automatically gifted another job elsewhere.

I wish this man could sue for some of the slander he’s had to endure. But I’m also sure he feels grateful n has gratitude towards FCPS for having his back. Remember he’s a first year county employee from another county, they don’t owe that man nothing.


It seems to me to be pretty unbiased. It just laid out facts. For example, "When Aziz, a veteran coach in the area, came to Hayfield in 2021, the team had won only two games total in the previous two years. Aziz turned things around and his squad finished atop its conference, the National District, all three seasons he was at the school."

Doesn't seem he "sucked" as a coach. Also, you, yet again, prove my prior comments correct. These Hayfield kids have no decent adult role models surrounding them. It really is a shame.


I remember reading in the Washington Post in 2013 that Aziz turned around the lackluster Falls Church HS football program that was at the bottom of the Northern Region for years, the very bottom. I think Aziz went to school there in the 80s or 90s. He was definitely one of the better public high school football coaches and very much in demand. He turned losing squads into winning ones seemingly overnight.


Def false


Don't pout. It's unbecoming.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.


If this ain’t the most biased article. Point blank Aziz sucked as a coach , his pass happy teams were mediocre at best, while at Falls Church yes he was able to beat some schools that were worse but never a good win vs ANY measurable other team.
If he was sooooo good he could be hired as an assistant somewhere, perhaps he forgot he’s a county employee who teaches kids first and coaches second. So him saying he fears for his job is asanine, and just because you coached at one school doesn’t mean your automatically gifted another job elsewhere.

I wish this man could sue for some of the slander he’s had to endure. But I’m also sure he feels grateful n has gratitude towards FCPS for having his back. Remember he’s a first year county employee from another county, they don’t owe that man nothing.


It seems to me to be pretty unbiased. It just laid out facts. For example, "When Aziz, a veteran coach in the area, came to Hayfield in 2021, the team had won only two games total in the previous two years. Aziz turned things around and his squad finished atop its conference, the National District, all three seasons he was at the school."

Doesn't seem he "sucked" as a coach. Also, you, yet again, prove my prior comments correct. These Hayfield kids have no decent adult role models surrounding them. It really is a shame.


I remember reading in the Washington Post in 2013 that Aziz turned around the lackluster Falls Church HS football program that was at the bottom of the Northern Region for years, the very bottom. I think Aziz went to school there in the 80s or 90s. He was definitely one of the better public high school football coaches and very much in demand. He turned losing squads into winning ones seemingly overnight.


Def false


Actually definitely true. There were a couple of articles in the Washington Post in 2013 about Falls Church's rise to a measure of prominence in football under Aziz. A quick google search proves that correct. But, and this is a testament to Aziz, he always seemed to deflect credit to his kids...that's what a good coach and decent human being does. Hopefully, for the sake of another program, he gets another coaching job elsewhere.

Some of the links for those interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/falls-church-earns-rare-playoff-win-dominion-grabs-first-ever-postseason-win/2013/11/15/cf5260a4-4e78-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/falls-church-football-off-to-best-start-in-more-than-a-decade-robinson-plays-without-injured-joe-wilson/2013/09/26/1769d116-26cd-11e3-b3e9-d97fb087acd6_story.html

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