Got in. DD is in thrid grade, we just moved from NY to Fairfax county last summer. Her Cogat is 150 though. |
For those that know the GBRS, how do you know? Did you request it or did they tell you?
I'm also curious about those that say that the school "worked" with them or they met with the AAP coordinator. What do you mean? We contacted the teachers and they said they couldn't do anything but fill out the GBRS. The AAP refused to meet and instead offered her general session she gave to parents of kids of all grades. What schools are you all from? I'm wondering if it's ours and we were just blown off or if there is something else at work here. This seems like there might be a little inside baseball. I know I sounds like sour grapes because DC did not get in, but I'm genuinely curious. I'm psyched for all of you -- not jealous because there are as many spots as they need so the kids are not competing. I think maybe I played this wrong by actually listening to what the school and the AAP coordinator told me to do. |
I know DD's GBRS because based on county's rule, you can request a copy of your kid's file prepared by local school after they submitted it to central committee. I remember I got it on second week of March. You are luckier than me, DD's school even doesn't have any AAP session. The only information I got from the AAP specialist is when the documents prepared by parents are due. I once tried to ask the possibility of DD's eligibility however just getting a very political answer. I think the main reason that DD finally got accepted is that he's always been one of top students (both in reading and math) in his class. Teacher's impressions really weigh the heaviest among all based on my opinions. |
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Sounds like the AAP coordinator at your school might have been blowing you off.
The AAP coordinator has to show you the GT package that was submitted for your child if you ask to see it (see the top of page 8 of the Parent Information Packet). As far as the inside baseball goes, at our school about 1/3 of the students made it into the initial screening pool which meant that about 30% of his 2nd grade class did better than 98 percent of the country on their COGAT and NNAT tests. Is this because the students at our school are so much smarter? Somehow I doubt it, more likely it is because a bunch of parents spent time tutoring their students on how to take the COGAT and NNAT. Each of those tests is only 50 questions or so. A few evenings spent studying will bump up almost any child’s score a bit. |
First, sorry your child did not get in. I felt the same way as you about my daughter's school. I asked a question or her teacher (via email) and she seemed to blow me off - didn't answer for several days and then it was a very general, party-line answer. I introduced myself and asked the AAP coordinator at the school a question at the meeting, and she too was very vague. I was not confident that they were supportive of her being in the program. My daughter's scores varied widely - one perfect score, one average score, and two above average, but below 130 scores. I didn't expect that she'd get in because I figured she wouldn't score well from the teacher and AAP coordinator. However, we got the letter today that she got in. I don't know if it's from that one perfect score, the work we sent, or if the teacher was more supportive of her than she let on (I didn't try to find out because I didn't want to know; I thought it would only upset me if they were low). Anyway, I would do the WISC if I were you and hope for a high score. Then hopefully, s/he will get in on the appeal. |
Wow! Your child has a very similar profile to mine (I'm the quoted PP). I think GBRS must be the difference. My DD is new to FCPS this year so no one really knew her. They say they use the past 2 years of report cards and my DD only had one report card (maybe 2) by then. I'll request the file and we'll appeal. We have a WISC with a decent score (not outrageous, but decent and consistent with her strengths on the other tests -perceptive reasoning very high, verbal and quantitative above average but not as high). |
I think the GBRS must make a huge difference. There is such a wide difference in test scores among kids accepted into Level IV. When kids with lower scores and/or grades are accepted there is little question as to the difference.
I can only imaging that the program's name was changed in order to accommodate the philosophy. It seems not to be as focused on addressing the needs of gifted and talented children, but on an "advanced academic program" where the children accepted are those who follow a specific model as spelled out on the GBRS. Good or bad, it is what it is. |
we got notification today may 1st
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We also received an acceptance letter today. |
The GIBS of 12 is very good, straight O's should help a lot, NNAT-135 is oked, I think your kid is well balanced. I would recommned you to contact Dr. Dahlgren (www.drdianadahlgren.com ) to get the WISC done, she is very knowlegable about Fx GT process. Good luck! Here is my son story: he is accepted to the center today! NNAT- 146; COGAT-140; GIBS-6, very few O's, most are are G/S, some "N" s. But I prepared strong work samples and parental questionaire. Had to fight with the base school on GIBS and school samples submitted- lots of people involved and finally the school caved-in and pulled their sample out. For the few weeks in March/April, his GT thing became my full-time job. |
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Interesting. If schools are including samples like that, it would go a long way toward explaining why some kids with high scores do not make the cut. Families may request copies of everything submitted, right? |