Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.
I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.
Good morning all be blessed
You think someone who had kids lie about being homeless is "def doing things right in the community"?
God, that is depressing. Your values are completely out of whack.
Do you have proof that he had or made kids lie? If not then stop the slander and defamation
"Slander" is through spoken word. I assume you meant "libel"?
Thank you but I’m sure you have spoken it as well, but point remains the same
It is pretty sad that you think that you've made a point at any time in any of your comments.
This diatribe you think you are having is quite comical in itself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.
I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.
Good morning all be blessed
You think someone who had kids lie about being homeless is "def doing things right in the community"?
God, that is depressing. Your values are completely out of whack.
Do you have proof that he had or made kids lie? If not then stop the slander and defamation
"Slander" is through spoken word. I assume you meant "libel"?
Thank you but I’m sure you have spoken it as well, but point remains the same
Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.
I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.
Good morning all be blessed
You think someone who had kids lie about being homeless is "def doing things right in the community"?
God, that is depressing. Your values are completely out of whack.
Do you have proof that he had or made kids lie? If not then stop the slander and defamation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.
I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.
Good morning all be blessed
This is barely comprehensible.
What is "louie luggage"??
You may have no problem with it, but the facts are that recruiting and bad sportsmanship are against VHSL rules. If coaches don't want to submit to the authority of VHSL, they are free to work at a non-public school.
Submit? You have list your everlasting last mind. It’s ok I would not potentially expect you to. 🚩🚩🚩
Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.
What letter?
November 20, 2024
Dear FCPS Community,
I am writing to address the continued — and troubling — misinformation being shared regarding this high school football season, and more specifically about the Hayfield Hawks football team. I also want to share with you our plan moving forward regarding this situation.
Let me begin by saying that all of our coaches, our school leaders, our community, and the Virginia High School League (VHSL) share a commitment to the success of our student athletes. We want our students to have passion for their sport and to play every game with integrity and sportsmanship above all else.
The VHSL is an important organization that has the tremendous responsibility of overseeing high school sports and other competitions across the Commonwealth. We appreciate the work they do, but in this situation, we share the frustration that many of our staff and families are feeling.
In August of this year, VHSL deemed eligible every player who has played this season on the Hayfield Hawks football team. Two months later, the VHSL declared the entire team ineligible for postseason play without any specific evidence of recruiting or other violations. Coaches, athletes, parents, and fans are frustrated by the circumstances that their teams are in now, because of the ambiguities within the VHSL’s rules and policies.
Last week, these inconsistencies were confirmed by the Fairfax County Circuit Court judge who, after a nearly two-hour hearing, ruled that Hayfield football could play in the postseason and that VHSL had violated its own rules by imposing a two-year ban. FCPS and Hayfield Secondary School are not parties to this litigation, but we will comply with the court ruling and allow Hayfield football to play in the postseason.
Last night, at their request, I met with coaches and principals whose school communities have been most directly impacted by this situation. During this productive meeting, we focused on our common goal to keep our student athletes at the center of any next steps. I have been clear that we will not find ourselves in this situation again.
To that end, and to minimize the potential of future questions or concerns, and to restore public trust, I have outlined the next steps we will be taking as a Division to ensure that our standards for student-athlete eligibility are clear and aligned moving forward. These steps include:
A comprehensive and independent external investigation and review of all student athlete transfers and eligibility practices across all sports and in all of our high schools.
A review and revision, where necessary, to FCPS athletic protocols and procedures. Led by the Office of Student Activities and Athletics programs, and in partnership with coaches and administrators, this will include a divisionwide review of current practices in evaluating student athlete transfers both inside and outside of the Division.
Alongside our Executive Director of Student Activities and Athletics, I will be hosting two Community Conversations, one for our schools in Class 6 Region C and one for our schools in Class 6 Region D, regarding our athletic regulations and practices. We’ll be sharing more information about those meetings soon and hope you will attend.
We also stand ready to work with the VHSL to improve their policies and processes on student-athlete eligibility. It is vital that we collaborate with everyone involved to ensure we are preparing for the evolution of the student-athlete experience that we are seeing in our country. As we navigate uncharted waters ahead in youth athletics, we must anchor our practices in clear rules and accountability systems that apply to all regardless of circumstances. Access to excellence and opportunity — that is the American dream.
Warmest Regards,
Dr. Michelle C. Reid
Superintendent
She’s right. They banned Hayfield without any specific proof of violation. It was "I’m white and I say Hayfield can’t play”. They probably didn’t expect Hayfield’s parents to have the resources to hire an attorney and fight.
1. Do we have proof that all 24 transfers live within Hayfield's boundaries? Answer: No.
2. Do we know for a fact that at least nine were deemed ineligible? Answer: Yes.
3. Do we have Hayfield football parents on the record noting that the only reason they transferred was for athletic purposes? Answer: Yes.
So, in short, we have several "specific proof of violation." By the way, learn basic English. Hayfield parents denying facts and trying to justify their cheating is beyond sad. They're unfit to raise children.
1. However many they verified met the satisfaction of FCPS - Not a Hayfield problem
2. Not any of the 9 deemed ineligible have touched the field so they are just getting an education, because they can’t play
3. I think ppl want to see hear that proof vs hearsay of the allegation. Not saying it didn’t happen but ppl don’t wish to be told, they wish to see for themselves.
You stay taking pot shots at people don’t you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.
I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.
Good morning all be blessed
This is barely comprehensible.
What is "louie luggage"??
You may have no problem with it, but the facts are that recruiting and bad sportsmanship are against VHSL rules. If coaches don't want to submit to the authority of VHSL, they are free to work at a non-public school.
Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.
I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.
Good morning all be blessed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reid is so full of it.
She is calling for an independent investigation. That already happened---done by VHSL--and she refused to accept their findings and decision.
VHSL did an investigation after FCPS already did one too and the VHSL’s wasn’t even as thorough. They looked FCPS findings and reshaped to violate Hayfield to appease the Hayfield haters.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.
What letter?
November 20, 2024
Dear FCPS Community,
I am writing to address the continued — and troubling — misinformation being shared regarding this high school football season, and more specifically about the Hayfield Hawks football team. I also want to share with you our plan moving forward regarding this situation.
Let me begin by saying that all of our coaches, our school leaders, our community, and the Virginia High School League (VHSL) share a commitment to the success of our student athletes. We want our students to have passion for their sport and to play every game with integrity and sportsmanship above all else.
The VHSL is an important organization that has the tremendous responsibility of overseeing high school sports and other competitions across the Commonwealth. We appreciate the work they do, but in this situation, we share the frustration that many of our staff and families are feeling.
In August of this year, VHSL deemed eligible every player who has played this season on the Hayfield Hawks football team. Two months later, the VHSL declared the entire team ineligible for postseason play without any specific evidence of recruiting or other violations. Coaches, athletes, parents, and fans are frustrated by the circumstances that their teams are in now, because of the ambiguities within the VHSL’s rules and policies.
Last week, these inconsistencies were confirmed by the Fairfax County Circuit Court judge who, after a nearly two-hour hearing, ruled that Hayfield football could play in the postseason and that VHSL had violated its own rules by imposing a two-year ban. FCPS and Hayfield Secondary School are not parties to this litigation, but we will comply with the court ruling and allow Hayfield football to play in the postseason.
Last night, at their request, I met with coaches and principals whose school communities have been most directly impacted by this situation. During this productive meeting, we focused on our common goal to keep our student athletes at the center of any next steps. I have been clear that we will not find ourselves in this situation again.
To that end, and to minimize the potential of future questions or concerns, and to restore public trust, I have outlined the next steps we will be taking as a Division to ensure that our standards for student-athlete eligibility are clear and aligned moving forward. These steps include:
A comprehensive and independent external investigation and review of all student athlete transfers and eligibility practices across all sports and in all of our high schools.
A review and revision, where necessary, to FCPS athletic protocols and procedures. Led by the Office of Student Activities and Athletics programs, and in partnership with coaches and administrators, this will include a divisionwide review of current practices in evaluating student athlete transfers both inside and outside of the Division.
Alongside our Executive Director of Student Activities and Athletics, I will be hosting two Community Conversations, one for our schools in Class 6 Region C and one for our schools in Class 6 Region D, regarding our athletic regulations and practices. We’ll be sharing more information about those meetings soon and hope you will attend.
We also stand ready to work with the VHSL to improve their policies and processes on student-athlete eligibility. It is vital that we collaborate with everyone involved to ensure we are preparing for the evolution of the student-athlete experience that we are seeing in our country. As we navigate uncharted waters ahead in youth athletics, we must anchor our practices in clear rules and accountability systems that apply to all regardless of circumstances. Access to excellence and opportunity — that is the American dream.
Warmest Regards,
Dr. Michelle C. Reid
Superintendent
She’s right. They banned Hayfield without any specific proof of violation. It was "I’m white and I say Hayfield can’t play”. They probably didn’t expect Hayfield’s parents to have the resources to hire an attorney and fight.
Anonymous wrote:Is really all you can contribute ? Call someone MAGA and racist ? Why don’t you breakdown the logic and tell me where it is wrong?FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are right that the problem is not political, but the solution necessarily involves politics. B/c the SB has to change to get some accountability from Gatehouse. The current lot backs Reid 100%, which is why she felt comfortable sending that ridiculous letter. If this thread doesn’t realize this, then you are all just spitting into the wind.Anonymous wrote:Stop making this political. This is about fair play and expecting the superintendent to care about all FCPS kids, not just Hayfield’s.
BTW, this is a great thread w/a lot passion, but relatively small potatoes compared to the real damage coming out of Gatehouse. Go visit some of threads on skills based grading (SBG), those will make your head spin.
Completely agree. I want Reid fired for all the other damage and hope this fiasco leads to her firing. But you're saying nothing will change until the next election and even then nothing will change because people blindly vote Democrat in Fairfax County.
The ignorance of the MAGA lot (which overlaps considerably with the Overton lot if you get to know them) is startling...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are right that the problem is not political, but the solution necessarily involves politics. B/c the SB has to change to get some accountability from Gatehouse. The current lot backs Reid 100%, which is why she felt comfortable sending that ridiculous letter. If this thread doesn’t realize this, then you are all just spitting into the wind.Anonymous wrote:Stop making this political. This is about fair play and expecting the superintendent to care about all FCPS kids, not just Hayfield’s.
BTW, this is a great thread w/a lot passion, but relatively small potatoes compared to the real damage coming out of Gatehouse. Go visit some of threads on skills based grading (SBG), those will make your head spin.
Completely agree. I want Reid fired for all the other damage and hope this fiasco leads to her firing. But you're saying nothing will change until the next election and even then nothing will change because people blindly vote Democrat in Fairfax County.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?
FCPS looked at 14 residences for students who registered at Hatfield. VHSL looked at 24 students in connection with recruiting violations and spirit of game violations across 2 different schools. That FCPS found no issues does not change what VHSL found.
Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Absolutely terrified she will be called racist
I can't see why. Nobody is doing that here when someone brings up legitimate concerns.
Seriously? Maybe read some of the comment from the Hayfield parents.
Kind of went over your head, didn't it?
Anonymous wrote:Stop making this political. This is about fair play and expecting the superintendent to care about all FCPS kids, not just Hayfield’s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way Gatehouse is fixed, is to get some “diversity” on the school board. Stop automatically pulling the D lever, and learn something about the candidates. Single party rule is never a good thing, regardless of party.
This is what half of these posts are really about, under the guise of caring about HS football. 🙄
Yup! And silly so called liberals fell for it hook line and sinker