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Anonymous wrote:
Asra is biased.
Yes, biased in favor of the facts of the matter of this case.
BTW, I love this line: "marking the first resignation in a growing scandal..."
Asra knows she's going to spill the dirt on everyone and is just biding her time...
Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I see in this is
Principal wanted Overton
If he was available a HC spot would be available
AD knew that if he came kids would follow
AD and principal turned blinds eye to what became a whole influx of transfers
Who tells the kids which loopholes to possibly use coach or AD
I hvnt seen or heard that Overton actually told or influenced anyone
He’s guilty of being a good coach yes
But want to know where his level of involvement is
No good coach would think this. Good coaches beat good teams. Overton did not do this once this season. Good coaches teach their players things like good sportsmanship etc. Overton has never once done this. Good coaches don't cheat. Overton has made a career out of cheating.
The above comment has to have been written by Coach O.
Evident you’re a Coach O hater. NOT one coach around this very area has the guts or gumption to even schedule a DeMatha, but he did with a clearly undersized team.
He scheduled a Private school this year, NO other coach in this area would do that
He scheduled powerhouse Varina, no FCPS school would do that, so pls spare me
He only has 2 decent teams, he crushed somewhat decent WSHS and lost to RB. So as far as the ntll district is concerned, it’s very weak and that’s why for years Hayfield was playing on borrowed time because beating up on teams in that district really would nvr prepare you for good playoff type teams
Maybe because this is nova public HS football, not Texas, and playing teams from Hyattsville and Henrico isn’t what it should be about?
Grown-ass men trying to relive their glory days through a bunch of HS kids is so sad to start with; trying to say it’s for them and not y’all is pathetic.
You definitely sound like a loser dad whose kid plays the flute, with his door closed. You definitely speak like this is just about participation trophies. Your stupid logic makes no sense, so because we’re not in Texas the game shouldn’t be taking it serious, then why keep score, why have a state championship. Somewhere in Va there is going to be a winner, why can’t it be from NoVa. You sound ridiculous
lol, project much? Anyway, enjoy the supervised visits with your kids and don’t sweat it too much when you hear them call your ex’s new husband “dad.”
Same way it shouldn’t bother you when your mom calls me daddy either
God, these Hayfield parents are about as smart as the shit I took this morning.
Seems like it didn’t go to the right place cuz the 💩 took seems to oozing out ur mouth instead of flushed in toilet🚽
"seems to oozing out ur mouth instead of flushed in toilet"
Oh man...every time a Hayfield parent posts they prove me right and they don't even realize it.
Anonymous wrote:yeah Overton winning and bringing talent in that the white coaches couldn’t get was cheatingAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Team white supremacy wins again.
Team with only the race card to play strikes again. The fact this is the only card that continues to be played speaks volumes.
White supremacy was a thing years ago, but today's racism is different. The cheating by Overton and his people makes them victims, but the white preppy AD had to flee the country to avoid hanging. Welcome to 2024.
1. Yes, yes it is cheating.
2. You may want to take a look at the coach Overton replaced before talking about the "white coaches."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I see in this is
Principal wanted Overton
If he was available a HC spot would be available
AD knew that if he came kids would follow
AD and principal turned blinds eye to what became a whole influx of transfers
Who tells the kids which loopholes to possibly use coach or AD
I hvnt seen or heard that Overton actually told or influenced anyone
He’s guilty of being a good coach yes
But want to know where his level of involvement is
No good coach would think this. Good coaches beat good teams. Overton did not do this once this season. Good coaches teach their players things like good sportsmanship etc. Overton has never once done this. Good coaches don't cheat. Overton has made a career out of cheating.
The above comment has to have been written by Coach O.
Evident you’re a Coach O hater. NOT one coach around this very area has the guts or gumption to even schedule a DeMatha, but he did with a clearly undersized team.
He scheduled a Private school this year, NO other coach in this area would do that
He scheduled powerhouse Varina, no FCPS school would do that, so pls spare me
He only has 2 decent teams, he crushed somewhat decent WSHS and lost to RB. So as far as the ntll district is concerned, it’s very weak and that’s why for years Hayfield was playing on borrowed time because beating up on teams in that district really would nvr prepare you for good playoff type teams
Maybe because this is nova public HS football, not Texas, and playing teams from Hyattsville and Henrico isn’t what it should be about?
Grown-ass men trying to relive their glory days through a bunch of HS kids is so sad to start with; trying to say it’s for them and not y’all is pathetic.
You definitely sound like a loser dad whose kid plays the flute, with his door closed. You definitely speak like this is just about participation trophies. Your stupid logic makes no sense, so because we’re not in Texas the game shouldn’t be taking it serious, then why keep score, why have a state championship. Somewhere in Va there is going to be a winner, why can’t it be from NoVa. You sound ridiculous
lol, project much? Anyway, enjoy the supervised visits with your kids and don’t sweat it too much when you hear them call your ex’s new husband “dad.”
Same way it shouldn’t bother you when your mom calls me daddy either
God, these Hayfield parents are about as smart as the shit I took this morning.
Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From Asra’s Twitter, this is pretty damning of Reid.
‼️ Coverup? Did FCPS only withdraw Hayfield from playoffs because the Fairfax County Times exposed the text messages that FCPS had known about for six days?
This is a very good point: did @fcpsnews engage in a coverup about the texts implicating a recruiting scandal, allowing the slaughter and elimination of Edison High School from playoffs by Hayfield?
The timeline of a coverup?
Tuesday, 11/19 — @FCPSSupt Michelle Reid gets the text messages at 7 PM meeting with coaches. No mention of texts to the public.
Wednesday, 11/20—Reid announces countywide investigation, not zeroing in on Hayfield. No mention of texts.
Thursday, 11/21—9 AM @SravanGNews and I break news @FairfaxTimes that Monty Fritts asked for leave of absence.
9 PM FCPS spokeswoman confirms Fritts asked for leave. No mention of texts.
9 PM Hayfield crushes Edison 75-7, eliminating them from playoffs. No mention of texts.
Saturday, 11/23–@KarlFrisch school board to issue joint letter supporting Reid. No mention of texts.
Sunday, 11/24–About 7 PM, Reid issues lengthy statement on her plans for Tom Horn to lead investigation. No mention of texts.
About 8 PM—Sravan and I report exclusively details from Fritts text messages. Peoples’ heads explode reading them.
Monday, 11/25, about 10:38 AM—FCPS admits to Fairfax County Times the texts but says they are being verified.
Monday, 11/25, about 6:30 PM—Hayfield withdraws from playoffs, citing texts revealed “last week.”
I respect how Asra and Sravan waited for Reid to do the right thing before finally dropping the hammer one hour after it was clear a coverup was underway.
Agreed.
I disagree with Nomani on countless issues but she is a good journalist. I am guessing that like any good journalist she gave let Reid know about the article shortly in advance of it dropping to try and get a comment and just give a heads up in general (as to avoid it being "gotcha" journalism) giving Reid a runway to try and appear as if she was doing the right thing. The right thing would have been for Reid to actually do something about this back in August IMO.
At this point gotcha journalism should be on the table. Reid was negligent in handling this from the beginning, showed malicious intent with her misinformation email, and doesn't deserve grace to save her image.
I mean I hear you, but no one on the Hayfield side (I am including Reid and all but three members of the Board as being on the Hayfield side) has acted like adults throughout any of this. Even last night Overton was acting like he/his team are the victims in a manner befitting a petulant child. It is nice that at least the two people (Nomani and Gannavarapu) who helped ensure this scandal didn't go away, are staying above the fray.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From Asra’s Twitter, this is pretty damning of Reid.
‼️ Coverup? Did FCPS only withdraw Hayfield from playoffs because the Fairfax County Times exposed the text messages that FCPS had known about for six days?
This is a very good point: did @fcpsnews engage in a coverup about the texts implicating a recruiting scandal, allowing the slaughter and elimination of Edison High School from playoffs by Hayfield?
The timeline of a coverup?
Tuesday, 11/19 — @FCPSSupt Michelle Reid gets the text messages at 7 PM meeting with coaches. No mention of texts to the public.
Wednesday, 11/20—Reid announces countywide investigation, not zeroing in on Hayfield. No mention of texts.
Thursday, 11/21—9 AM @SravanGNews and I break news @FairfaxTimes that Monty Fritts asked for leave of absence.
9 PM FCPS spokeswoman confirms Fritts asked for leave. No mention of texts.
9 PM Hayfield crushes Edison 75-7, eliminating them from playoffs. No mention of texts.
Saturday, 11/23–@KarlFrisch school board to issue joint letter supporting Reid. No mention of texts.
Sunday, 11/24–About 7 PM, Reid issues lengthy statement on her plans for Tom Horn to lead investigation. No mention of texts.
About 8 PM—Sravan and I report exclusively details from Fritts text messages. Peoples’ heads explode reading them.
Monday, 11/25, about 10:38 AM—FCPS admits to Fairfax County Times the texts but says they are being verified.
Monday, 11/25, about 6:30 PM—Hayfield withdraws from playoffs, citing texts revealed “last week.”
I respect how Asra and Sravan waited for Reid to do the right thing before finally dropping the hammer one hour after it was clear a coverup was underway.
Agreed.
I disagree with Nomani on countless issues but she is a good journalist. I am guessing that like any good journalist she gave let Reid know about the article shortly in advance of it dropping to try and get a comment and just give a heads up in general (as to avoid it being "gotcha" journalism) giving Reid a runway to try and appear as if she was doing the right thing. The right thing would have been for Reid to actually do something about this back in August IMO.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.
How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.
What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.
Its SO weird to me that you think this comment is important at all. Who cares what some anonymous person thought about what some other random FCPS football coach would think about the Hayfield cheating?
What’s weird is we’re supposed to believe everything else the text threads said but can’t dissect everything IN the text thread. In a court of law all that’s needed is to present any sort of reasonable doubt. Nownlet that meditate in your spirit
Your point is that an Anonymous person thought a South County coach would be upset that Hayfield was hiring a notorious cheater.
What is your point again?
Notorious, what again has he been proven guilty of? What? Pls do elaborate. Allegations are not facts, simply they are questions one would like to have answered
My god you Hayfraud boosters set yourselves up every single time.
What's he been proven guilty of? Well...I don't know...
How about playing ineligible players or did he not have to forfeit games back in 2021 for doing so?
How about playing ineligible players when he was told not to, twice, by his principal, Inez Bryant?
How about illegal/inappropriate use of county property for his own personal gain while at Potomac? Or was he not fined for doing that?
How about yet more illegal/inappropriate use of county property for his own personal gain while at Freedom? Or was it not recommended by investigators that he face disciplinary actions for doing so?
How about lying about his credentials to get the job he has at Hayfield?
How about verbally threatening a female online?
How about never filing the proper paperwork for his so-called nonprofit?
I could go on... but, he is clearly a notorious cheater.
Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.
The mental gymnastics one has to do to come to this conclusion is incredibly impressive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...
Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.
After all their screw ups with actual education, is football going to be what brings down this superintendent and school board?
You're in a bubble if you think that everyone really cares about this. Half of the school system has students in grades K-6. This just isn't on their radar, and they don't care about some football team. Reid is not going down for this. But dream on.
It is on their radar as Reid emailed all parents in the district last night. Several commenters have noted that A. they hadn't heard a thing about this until said email; and B. now that they know, they're pissed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can’t “recruit” someone that is already at the school. Don’t propose something so preposterous. You come across as foolish.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At this point, FCPS should just assume ffx times has more screenshots of texts
100%
Overton and his crew didn’t do their research on the likes of Asra Q. Nomani (not all that surprising). Once she got involved the smart bettors knew this was going to be a death by 1000 cuts type situation. She’s likely sitting on a mountain of evidence and just slowly going to let it drip out.
Yep. I disagree with her politics but she is a great journalist. She's like a dog with a bone.
She’s diligent and uncovers stuff that others wouldn’t look for or find. She isn’t always accurate - for example, she suggested the Herndon FB coach recently resigned over FCPS’s handling of the Hayfield situation and he completely disavowed her claim.
The Herndon coach was recruiting. I know that for a fact.
All this slandering of other programs and coaches with NO PROOF is pathetic.
Exactly - my kid went to preschool with most of those players. They've lived there their whole lives.
My kids have been knowing them since preschool as well and there are some kids who haven’t lived in the zone that long.
I know for a fact the Herndon football coach was recruiting and trying to sway a kid with private school opportunities, but lived in the zone into attending Herndon.
They do it for basketball too, as there is a sophomore playing for Herndon whose home address is zoned for a different school. He was persuaded by the basketball coach to attend Herndon.
I'm not sure this is the type of "recruiting" that violates the rules. The student was already slated to attend Herndon as he lived in the Herndon district. The coach seemed to be simply asking him to stay to and play there as opposed to attend the private school. In fact, it really isn't recruiting. The kid was going there anyway if he didn't decide to attend a private high school.
Recruiting is recruiting, he wasn’t going anyway, and probably won’t be back next year.
Seems the VHSL is selective as to who the enforce these rules against.
But wait the private school kids that left and returned to Hayfield it seems to be an issue, as they live in the district (not moved into the district). But all u hear is oh Hayfield had x from private schools. W
No one anywhere has a problem with Herndon zoned kids returning from private school to attend their neighborhood high school.
It soulds like a big part of the problem is all of you Prince William County parents did not take the time to research transfer policies in Fairfax County Public Schools.
Of course no one has a problem with Herndon, the coach is white.
False claims of racism when none exists. It is all these Hayfraud parents have.
Anonymous wrote:Footbal recruits don't pay tuition at DeMatha, Ireton, St John College etc. They were on free rides.
Few WCAC football football players get totally free rides and I would be shocked if Ireton is giving out much aid at all for kids to play football there. I write this as a former WCAC coach.
Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening at my kids school. The kids track back to elementary.
And your talking about 20+ players in one year at Hayfield. It’s like a speeding ticket. If you get 1 in a 3 month window, BFD. But if get 20 tickets in 3 months, the DMV should yank the license, and your insurance co will definitely drop you. Hayfield intentionally got the 20.
Yes, and if you get 20 tickets in 3 months, lie about being homeless to the officer, have someone in your car who tries doing drugs with minors, and have someone else in your car facing gun charges, you should get a little bit more than a ticket...
Anonymous wrote:FrankWinston wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That the DSA and Principal knew Overton would cheat and that they were happy to assist him.
That wasn't my takeway from reading the supposed screen shots. Good luck proving that.
So, to track the timeline of the Hayfraud parents and coaches:
1. First it was "We didn't cheat"
2. Then it pivoted to "Everyone who says we cheat is a racist"
3. Now it is "Sure we cheated, but good luck proving it."
4. We’re not the only ones who cheat.
5. All those other teams that cheat haven’t been caught. We only got caught because of racism.
I remembered #4 in my response just before you but forgot #5. Thank you for keeping me honest.