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Saul was my grandfather's name. I've never particularly liked it, but all the sudden it's striking me as kind of cute for a baby. It's almost absurd, but I think it's absurd in a cute way.

Anyway, the names I am considering for this baby are so boring and common that I'm trying to think outside the box. So, Saul for a baby boy? (I am Jewish through my mother's side, but my dad's side are scary Southern hate everyone Christians. I wasn't raised with religion. Would a non-religious kid [or a kid of non-religious parents] named Saul be odd or disrespectful?)
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone NOT think their kids are attractive?


I think definitely! Though I think it's only the abusive ones who tell their children what they think!
Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids, DS 27, DD 25, and DD 23. The older 2 kids are conventionally attractive, but the youngest one is unattractive. I feel bad for her. She never gets asked out, though she’s bubbly and sweet. I know a man is not a plan, but it sure would be nice if guys could appreciate her smarts & kindness.

So it does matter to me a bit, only insofar as it’s tough for me to experience her bewilderment that nobody wants to date her.


That must be really hard. The good thing about getting older, though, is that people become attractive for other reasons. I'm sure she'll have people interested in her. Thank goodness most of us are not extremely good looking. Plenty of plain and average looking couples out there!
Anonymous wrote:OP, how old is your child?Many beautiful children turn out ugly and many ugly and awkward children turn out beautiful. I think it matters more to the parent that the child, especially if the parent tends to project and be insecure.


I don't have one yet. My due date is in October. I'm not particularly interested in whether or not he was gorgeous. My mom made a huge deal of my looks when I was a child and honestly, I built too much of my self worth on them. When I started getting chubby as a teenager, it was catastrophic for my self esteem. I just want to avoid looks worship with my kids. It has screwed me up too much.
On another message board, a poster expressed worry that her new baby girl wouldn't be beautiful or grow up to be beautiful. I thought this was strange, but wondered also if it's a common worry.

So, I thought I'd ask here. Do you care about what your kids look like? Is it important that they be beautiful, extremely good looking, or good looking at all? I'm not talking about how well dressed they are or how well groomed they are. I'm talking about the actual looks they were born with.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks to everyone who responded. Obviously I have no experience being a mother yet, so it's nice to get some feedback on some of my expectations.

I'm trying to examine my motivation for banning words, and asking myself if it's rooted in class anxiety rather than a desire to be polite. I think my mom is insecure about her socioeconomic standing, and I might have some underlying insecurity there as well. I guess it's good to recognize it so I can try to deal with it. Shrug. Don't know.

Anyway, that's why I like this board. I don't live in DC and I don't aspire to, but while I've seen an astonishing amount of full of shitness and the most mind-blowing snobbery here, I've also seen more people calling out others on being full of shit than any other message board and I love it. This is like a board of cultural wars and it's so interesting.

I think you are on to something. I remember my mother in law telling my son "we say pass gas" when he said something about farting. I reminded her that she says pass gas and we say fart. But I grew up "low class"


Apparently all these people who think this is about class have never worked in management or finance. The cursing, sex talk, and political incorrectness is off the charts for a lot of wealthy people. Who are the prim and proper "upper class"? Trust fund babies?


Op here. Ha, well I'm not upper class and I have no hope of being upperclass. I'm not in management or finance, but most people I know and associate with have filthy mouths (I'm finishing up at PhD program in the Humanities and most people I know are in this line of work. It seems like there's a competition going among some faculty and grad students to see who can be the most outrageous. It's pretty entertaining but a little obnoxious at times, I must admit.) I have a filthy mouth a lot of the time. But I'm an adult. I think, though, that in a lot of people's minds "middle class respectability" dictates that you teach your kids "polite" language.
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