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E.g. What determines where each person will go?
If you are religious, what's your religion and/or denomination? |
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I don't believe in heaven and hell, but I believe in God. I think of heaven and hell as closeness or distance from God. If you were basically good in life, you will be close to God. If you hurt others, you will be far from God.
-agnostic, former cradle Catholic |
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I believe what the bible says:
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. --John 3:17 if you do not believe in Jesus, you are condemned. Your name is not written in the book of life: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15 |
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I used to believe in heaven, because I wanted to go there to live eternally. But the more I thought about it, the less sense it made.
Would I be with my first or subsequent spouses - or somehow all of them? Would I see my grandmother again and if we were both old people, what would our relationship be like? What about meeting my great grandparents whom I never knew? What would we do all day, for eternity, besides praising God? Now it obvious that what happens to humans after death is the same thing that happens to all living things - we go back to the earth. We die and that's it. |
How does it make you feel, knowing that all people of non-Christian religions and people of no religion are going to hell? |
It makes me feel the same as people on Death Row: sad, but they are receiving the consequences for their unbelief. I consider all non-Christians to be evil, even if they act good and do good deeds. They may not act evil publicly but on the inside they are indeed evil. Much of the time the evil is suppressed and does not manifest itself until certain conditions occur, such as the removal of police, Christians removed from society, or someone like Hitler using the government to approve evil. For non-Christians and atheists, God has given them the final consequences of their unbelief. God is merciful and gives them time to repent, to believe in Jesus, but most do not. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. --John 3:19 When a person, such as a homosexual, repeatedly and willfully persists in that behavior which is disobedient to God, well, God cements that person's choice: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient --Romans 1:27 God also passes judgment over entire nations such as telling the Israelites to go into Canaan and kill all of them and take the land. The Canaanites were evil, sacrificing their children to idols, engaging in homosexuality and bestiality and all other sorts of abominations. After awhile, God passed a final judgment upon them. It is my opinion that God has passed a final judgment upon the Arabs and others who are evil, turning them over to Islam, Indians to Hinduism, and Jews to Judaism which denies Jesus is the Messiah thus making it an anti-Christ religion the same as Islam. All of these non-Christians are getting the fruit of the seeds which they have sown in unbelief. And just believing in God does not make you good. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. --James 2:19 |
How is that "obvious?" The questions you ask are common, but also simplistic. What awaits us in Heaven (or Hell) is beyond anything that we can comprehend now, and beyond any relationship experience on earth. We will all be reunited as one with God, our Creator. It's not an issue of what we will do "all day," because there are not "days" in eternity. |
Well presented. Thank you. |
That is not what the John 3:17 says. You don't have to be Christian to believe in Jesus's teachings. You can believe in love thy neighbor and all the other teachings of God and "believe in him:. Also you can't just believe in Jesus and be a douche and go to heaven. |
You conveniently left out and "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" Those who have already condemned other, will be condemned like this person posting here... it has already been written. |
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Same |
You misread what John 3:17 says. It does not say "If you believe in Jesus' teachings and love your neighbor you won't be condemned." It says, you must believe that Jesus is the Son of God. Many people believe Jesus was a "good guy" and agree that you should forgive others and love one another. Jesus commanded this. But that does not make someone a Christian, any more than doing yoga makes someone a Hindu, or admiring verses from the Koran make you a Muslim. You become a Christian when you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, that he was born of the virgin Mary, was crucified on a cross, and rose from the dead on the 3rd day. IF you do not believe this, and the Muslims and Jews do not, then you are NOT a Christian. Believing that Jesus existed does not make a person a Christian. I believe Buddha existed and admire some of his teachings but that does not make me a Buddhist. The previous verse 16 says that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. --John 3:16 |
c I totally agree with this. I’ve lived long enough to to believe in one thing: Karma. Because I’ve seen it in action…..my own life, and the lives of my friends and family. It’s common in the major religions of the West and the East. Good karma and bad karma happen. I believe that we all reap what we sow, both in this life, and whatever is in the next life. It takes much personal “soul work” to develop a strong, solid conscience, but it can be done. I am also a recovering Catholic. My karma ran over my dogma.😉 |
LOL |