SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor

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Anonymous wrote:This case was about Asian students suing, yet the NYT never fails

Thank you for mentioning this. I’ve been wondering why nothing is being said about Asian American students.

Progressives are stuck in a black/white binary and haven’t updated their model to that of today’s multiracial democracy.

Instead they’ve shoehorned Asians into the white adjacent category and Latinos into the oppressed category and carried on.

Never really cared if Asian Americans and Latinos have their own thoughts and ideas about it.

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“Barak Obama is the first mainstream African American who is bright, articulate, and clean.” — Joe Biden

I don’t know about you, but my black friends said only a racist says something like that.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

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Anonymous wrote:This case was about Asian students suing, yet the NYT never fails

Not surprised at all. But who still finds NYT as a credible news source?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Democrats fight AGAINST civil rights?
Why did Democrats fight to KEEP slavery?

Then once electricity eliminated the need to enslave people they moved on to killing babies for a more convenient life.

fetuses are not babies. Seek help.

You may call those little lives what you want. They still matter, all the little girls and all the little boys developing in utero.

And the person who owns the utero matters even more. Because they are a human alive in this world and their lives matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm one of those democrats who knew the plaintiffs are Asian.

Hope.this helps Asian kids, but I really doubt it, unless they are already rich.

What the outcome really means is that rich kids are going to be as preferred as they used to be in the old days before affirmative action. Doubt very seriously these right private Ivies are going to become significantly Asian, especially now that they don't *have* to select a minimum amount of Asian students.

My prediction: Asian acceptances will tick up slightly, while the open slots are backfilled with potential donor families.

The brief submitted by Students for Fair Admissions contains precise data about Harvard acceptance by academic performance decide and race. Looking at it, it suggests that if you remove the 40ish % of Harvard students that are admitted due to legacy, then the remaining 60ish percent will be much more Asian and slightly more white. The standards for admission is not slightly different- they are drastically different, and this likely accounts for the disproportionately high dropout rate among black students.

Essentially this case is about Harvard and a handful of other highly selective schools. It’s not going to affect the vast majority of colleges and universities that are not highly selective. The highly selective ones will find a work around. Like making every applicant write an essay about racism in the US and how has it affect their lives. Then you give extra points to those strong candidates who have overcome challenges relating to their racial identity.

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My relative is a college professor and was a high school guidance counselor. He says there is already a plan B for this.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm one of those democrats who knew the plaintiffs are Asian.

Hope.this helps Asian kids, but I really doubt it, unless they are already rich.

What the outcome really means is that rich kids are going to be as preferred as they used to be in the old days before affirmative action. Doubt very seriously these right private Ivies are going to become significantly Asian, especially now that they don't *have* to select a minimum amount of Asian students.

My prediction: Asian acceptances will tick up slightly, while the open slots are backfilled with potential donor families.

The brief submitted by Students for Fair Admissions contains precise data about Harvard acceptance by academic performance decide and race. Looking at it, it suggests that if you remove the 40ish % of Harvard students that are admitted due to legacy, then the remaining 60ish percent will be much more Asian and slightly more white. The standards for admission is not slightly different- they are drastically different, and this likely accounts for the disproportionately high dropout rate among black students.

Essentially this case is about Harvard and a handful of other highly selective schools. It’s not going to affect the vast majority of colleges and universities that are not highly selective. The highly selective ones will find a work around. Like making every applicant write an essay about racism in the US and how has it affect their lives. Then you give extra points to those strong candidates who have overcome challenges relating to their racial identity.

Yeah, but even the work arounds are pretty hard to defend. For example, it came out in this case that one of the ways they were able to accept less Asians was by routinely scoring them low on personality. Yikes. I mean, wow.

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“Barak Obama is the first mainstream African American who is bright, articulate, and clean.” — Joe Biden

I don’t know about you, but my black friends said only a racist says something like that.

Barak Obama is not African American.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
“Barak Obama is the first mainstream African American who is bright, articulate, and clean.” — Joe Biden

I don’t know about you, but my black friends said only a racist says something like that.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

I think Barack Obama and all other Black Americans are a bit more concerned about the bad shit that the people who oppose them do to discriminate and disenfranchise and deny opportunities to Blacks than about the people who support them occasionally saying something about them in an awkward manner.

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Anonymous wrote:This case was about Asian students suing, yet the NYT never fails

Not surprised at all. But who still finds NYT as a credible news source?

1. What you are looking at isn't even a news article. It's an Editorial piece.

2. Most people consider the New York Times to be a credible news organization. The fact that you can't tell News from Editorial is because Fox News has rotted your brain. Clearly in court they are arguing that what they portray as News is really Opinion. At least that's their defense when they get sued.

I don't agree with the op-ed page of the Wall Street Journal, but they do a mostly good job of reporting, and I can see that. You should be able to do the same with NYT.

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Let’s get after that legacy program. Dismantle it all!

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Anonymous wrote:Even Kamala called Joe a racist on the debate stage — for the entire world to see... how Americans put a racist in the White House. Imagine that.

Perhaps Democrats need to do a little soul searching.

yes, in the 1970's Biden was a product of his upbringing and the time. He has also evolved as a human since then, as rational people are able to do.

+1

It’s amazing he has evolved, good for him for being so agile. Conservatives don’t believe in evolution so they refuse to grow and change, instead drying up as they get old, creaky, and inflexible.

You’re saying Kamala is a liar???

She didn’t call him a racist. She said that in the 1970s he opposed busing as a remedy for segregation, which was true for Delaware political reasons. That’s just the way it was and still is. A lot of people recognized that racial discrimination had been systemic and caused extreme racial disparities but few people in predominantly white places had the political courage to support any remedies.

She basically called him a racist. Busing was a very misguided remedy that was unpopular among both blacks and whites and decimated community-fed schools and destabilized inner city school districts. Opposing forced busing does not make one a racist but that's exactly what Kamala was getting at. I really liked her up to the point she made this attack during the primary and she's never fully regained by respect. I'm actually from Delaware and my family was directly impacted by busing and I saw firsthand what it did to schools there. Busing might be over but the public school system in Delaware has never fully recovered from it.

No, she didn’t. Why do you guys always have to lie to make an argument?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This case was about Asian students suing, yet the NYT never fails

Thank you for mentioning this. I’ve been wondering why nothing is being said about Asian American students.

Progressives are stuck in a black/white binary and haven’t updated their model to that of today’s multiracial democracy.

Instead they’ve shoehorned Asians into the white adjacent category and Latinos into the oppressed category and carried on.

Never really cared if Asian Americans and Latinos have their own thoughts and ideas about it.

This is your perception of progressives, which, of course, has nothing to do with reality. But then again, neither did Pizzagate, so...

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Of course there are plenty of boys who do well in school. But that doesn't explain why there is now a huge gender gap in college with too many females on campus now compared to males. Clearly it means the education system in the country is gigantically failing boys and men, and it is because over the last 30-40 years they've swung too far to the other way and teach only to the way girls learn.

Maybe, but what percentage of kids go to college. This could be explained by the bell curve, which is different for boys and girls.
Both have about the same average, but girls will have a much higher share close to the average.

If the top 20% go to college, it will be disproportionately boys. If the top 40% go to college it will be more boys, but not as lopsided.
If the top 50% it is same number of boys and girls. Top 60% it will be lopsided towards girls.

The bottom 20% is dominated by boys.