ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Sure BS for travel but can be used for rec soccer because a bunch of them follow grades. It isn't always about travel.

That's OK, but nothing here is helpful because no one can agree on anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Posted by the nerds who stay after class to play with the bunsen burner

It's quite the online urinating contest, really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower

Wrong

It is correct, you just don't want to admit that an age group will have more than one grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Ok you can choose to believe whatever you want. The matrix is for parents that need assistance understanding how age and grade work.

Yeah, because now in BY system there are parents, clubs and team managers who don't know where a kid belongs based on their DOB in a MM/DD/YYYY grouping system 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Posted by the nerds who stay after class to play with the bunsen burner

It's quite the online urinating contest, really.

and into the wind

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Those school districts don't match my school district.

They match all school districts.

The only thing that might be different is the school (month) cutoff dates. The year students were born is the same for all districts across the USA.

If you hold your kid back or start them early the year might be different. But the MAJORITY of students in each grade will all be a certain year/s ie 2010/2011 for Sophmores.

What's the point listing the majority of students?

Wouldn't listing most will be juniors or younger be more appropriate for an age group considering they all contain multiple grades. And yes, kids who went to school late are allowed to play youth soccer.

What's the point of listing grades at all on a table you scribble on at home if they aren't used and clubs don't know the players grades?

Its because "juniors and younger" doesn't mathematically address all edge cases.

"most likely" does address all edge cases.

When I see the ECNL schedule next season with Juniors listed as a group category, I'll be mightily impressed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Sure BS for travel but can be used for rec soccer because a bunch of them follow grades. It isn't always about travel.

It 100% works for travel.

It doesn't, travel in DMV is strict age, can't choose to play up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Wrong

Its right he even proves the math with outside links.

[Anonymous]

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Those school districts don't match my school district.

They match all school districts.

The only thing that might be different is the school (month) cutoff dates. The year students were born is the same for all districts across the USA.

If you hold your kid back or start them early the year might be different. But the MAJORITY of students in each grade will all be a certain year/s ie 2010/2011 for Sophmores.

What's the point listing the majority of students?

Wouldn't listing most will be juniors or younger be more appropriate for an age group considering they all contain multiple grades. And yes, kids who went to school late are allowed to play youth soccer.

What's the point of listing grades at all on a table you scribble on at home if they aren't used and clubs don't know the players grades?

Its because "juniors and younger" doesn't mathematically address all edge cases.

"most likely" does address all edge cases.

BS, Juniors and younger is more likely than just Sophomores. Most likely ignores edge cases by definition.

[Anonymous]

Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Ok you can choose to believe whatever you want. The matrix is for parents that need assistance understanding how age and grade work.

Not even remotely true. Grade has been added to the real age group table to try to convince/shame grade year into existence. Name a club in the DMV that is letting kids to choose to play up? Still waiting. All your work for GY has been an utter failure and top teams for next year are ready to go. Clubs are filling much lower teams now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower

I cant believe that you're still posting the wrong info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Ok you can choose to believe whatever you want. The matrix is for parents that need assistance understanding how age and grade work.

Not even remotely true. Grade has been added to the real age group table to try to convince/shame grade year into existence. Name a club in the DMV that is letting kids to choose to play up? Still waiting. All your work for GY has been an utter failure and top teams for next year are ready to go. Clubs are filling much lower teams now.

Its all mathematically correct. Sorry if you do t like reality.