ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade
Those school districts don't match my school district.

They match all school districts.

The only thing that might be different is the school (month) cutoff dates. The year students were born is the same for all districts across the USA.

If you hold your kid back or start them early the year might be different. But the MAJORITY of students in each grade will all be a certain year/s ie 2010/2011 for Sophmores.
What's the point listing the majority of students?

Wouldn't listing most will be juniors or younger be more appropriate for an age group considering they all contain multiple grades. And yes, kids who went to school late are allowed to play youth soccer.

What's the point of listing grades at all on a table you scribble on at home if they aren't used and clubs don't know the players grades?

Its because "juniors and younger" doesn't mathematically address all edge cases.

"most likely" does address all edge cases.
BS, Juniors and younger is more likely than just Sophomores. Most likely ignores edge cases by definition.
Anonymous
Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Ok you can choose to believe whatever you want. The matrix is for parents that need assistance understanding how age and grade work.
Not even remotely true. Grade has been added to the real age group table to try to convince/shame grade year into existence. Name a club in the DMV that is letting kids to choose to play up? Still waiting. All your work for GY has been an utter failure and top teams for next year are ready to go. Clubs are filling much lower teams now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower

I cant believe that you're still posting the wrong info.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Ok you can choose to believe whatever you want. The matrix is for parents that need assistance understanding how age and grade work.
Not even remotely true. Grade has been added to the real age group table to try to convince/shame grade year into existence. Name a club in the DMV that is letting kids to choose to play up? Still waiting. All your work for GY has been an utter failure and top teams for next year are ready to go. Clubs are filling much lower teams now.

Its all mathematically correct. Sorry if you do t like reality.
Anonymous
In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade
Anonymous
Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower

Wrong.

Show your work, where's the proof?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just so you all know, I just see an age matrix and keep scrolling because it's all BS to me.

Ok you can choose to believe whatever you want. The matrix is for parents that need assistance understanding how age and grade work.


Yeah, because now in BY system there are parents, clubs and team managers who don't know where a kid belongs based on their DOB in a MM/DD/YYYY grouping system 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


You didn't know?
Come next season, the concept of Month/Day/Year is going to have us all in a tailspin

No one will understand. It will be mayhem and Armageddon
Anonymous
In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/d...obilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enr...-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/de...6-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors or Sophomores. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3rd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman
Anonymous
Club: What's players DOB?

Maniac Parent: DC is 7th Grade

Club: Do you want to register or not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/d...obilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enr...-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/de...6-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors or Sophomores. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3rd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

The proofs say exactly opposite of what you cut and pasted then hacked up.
Anonymous
In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade
Anonymous
If someone is looking for a saner discussion on this, I found this interesting. Echoes the case-by-case nature for outliers. All viewpoints represented in normal conversation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/youthsoccer/comments/1rvsrsj/august_birthday_sept_1_school_cut_off/

August birthday Sept. 1 school cut off
Hey - just want to poll the parents of young teens whose kids were born in August but school year cut off is Sept. 1. How many of us are there here?

If you are a parent whose son falls in this gap - what are you doing? Is there an option to push up? I have been excited all along because my son will finally get to be the tallest and oldest since he's always the youngest at school. Today he said he was worried might not be challenged enough but then said it might help him stand out (very tall). Therefore I just wanted to come here to hear everyone's perspective about if they have a kid in this category and your thoughts.

Also, next year my son will be in 9th and will try out for high school soccer. In addition, our highest level here is ECNL - no MLS next nearby - closest is 6 hour drive.
Anonymous
Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower
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