Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.


You put words in my mouth. I was referring to the agitators.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.


You put words in my mouth. I was referring to the agitators.


The universities handle the discipline of the "agitators," just like students committing whatever other sort of infraction.

The campus protests would not have been meaningfully different without foreign students.

The federal government *definitely* has better ways to be spending our taxpayer-supported resources.

Just because Trump is annoyed because some schools rejected his child is not sane justification for all this ridiculous drama.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.


You put words in my mouth. I was referring to the agitators.


The universities handle the discipline of the "agitators," just like students committing whatever other sort of infraction.

The campus protests would not have been meaningfully different without foreign students.

The federal government *definitely* has better ways to be spending our taxpayer-supported resources.

Just because Trump is annoyed because some schools rejected his child is not sane justification for all this ridiculous drama.


But Harvard and Columbia did not handle the agitating protestors at first. They let the "peaceful" protests continue way too long. I remember it all quite well, including their presidents' weak, anemic, generic, deflecting responses when questioned.
Finally, I can't stand Trump but not sure how you know his motivations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.


You put words in my mouth. I was referring to the agitators.


The universities handle the discipline of the "agitators," just like students committing whatever other sort of infraction.

The campus protests would not have been meaningfully different without foreign students.

The federal government *definitely* has better ways to be spending our taxpayer-supported resources.

Just because Trump is annoyed because some schools rejected his child is not sane justification for all this ridiculous drama.


But Harvard and Columbia did not handle the agitating protestors at first. They let the "peaceful" protests continue way too long. I remember it all quite well, including their presidents' weak, anemic, generic, deflecting responses when questioned.
Finally, I can't stand Trump but not sure how you know his motivations.


Yes, the pendulum of tolerance for disruptive protests swung too far, so that needed correcting. But that is not hard. In fact, getting the presidents fired is a pretty strong action to motivate less tolerance of disruption.

So why is this still a big deal worth destroying long-standing institutions?

That disproportionality leads one to speculate about the true motivations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.


You put words in my mouth. I was referring to the agitators.


The universities handle the discipline of the "agitators," just like students committing whatever other sort of infraction.

The campus protests would not have been meaningfully different without foreign students.

The federal government *definitely* has better ways to be spending our taxpayer-supported resources.

Just because Trump is annoyed because some schools rejected his child is not sane justification for all this ridiculous drama.


But Harvard and Columbia did not handle the agitating protestors at first. They let the "peaceful" protests continue way too long. I remember it all quite well, including their presidents' weak, anemic, generic, deflecting responses when questioned.
Finally, I can't stand Trump but not sure how you know his motivations.


Yes, the pendulum of tolerance for disruptive protests swung too far, so that needed correcting. But that is not hard. In fact, getting the presidents fired is a pretty strong action to motivate less tolerance of disruption.

So why is this still a big deal worth destroying long-standing institutions?

That disproportionality leads one to speculate about the true motivations.


PP here. I can agree with all you said. I keep praying for normalcy and reason. .
Anonymous

USA debt is going exponential

Federal contracts to colleges, money losing student loans, federal aid to colleges are the easiest cuts. Every other category of cuts are tougher decisions.

The colleges need to embrace technology and AI to slash expenses in all areas and sell almost all of their campuses or new schools with better quality and a fraction of the cost will take their place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
USA debt is going exponential

Federal contracts to colleges, money losing student loans, federal aid to colleges are the easiest cuts. Every other category of cuts are tougher decisions.

The colleges need to embrace technology and AI to slash expenses in all areas and sell almost all of their campuses or new schools with better quality and a fraction of the cost will take their place.


How is this view relevant to Trump wanting to revoke Harvard's ability to host foreign students? (other than making hosting foreign students that much more necessary?)

Anonymous
Harvard can still make profits off their state tax exemption. They run hotels and restaurants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
USA debt is going exponential

Federal contracts to colleges, money losing student loans, federal aid to colleges are the easiest cuts. Every other category of cuts are tougher decisions.

The colleges need to embrace technology and AI to slash expenses in all areas and sell almost all of their campuses or new schools with better quality and a fraction of the cost will take their place.


Where do you think that AI research is taking place?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From Trump’s Truth Social this morning:

Why isn’t Harvard saying that almost 31% of their students are from FOREIGN LANDS, and yet those countries, some not at all friendly to the United States, pay NOTHING toward their student’s education, nor do they ever intend to. Nobody told us that! We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn’t exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries. Harvard has $52,000,000, use it, and stop asking for the Federal Government to continue GRANTING money to you!

Why does it matter who those students are? In fact, you already know who they are, they have student visas. Go find out. And if, by saying Harvard has $52,000,000 he’s referring to their endowment, he’s off by three orders of magnitude. It $52 billion. Finally, the government doesn’t grant money to Harvard, they pay Harvard for research, which hopefully benefits society and the world.

What a dope.


In the meantime, Harvard is offering free classes in an effort to educate the ignorant masses. They are definitely the good guys here.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government?page=0&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKfWk9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmqgNjV8WVZMmYsO1RluR2ugUGPsBPgnwwCtmU94o0mxyR98XhtXgpN4PDCe_aem_hE_JnMDqcMlZkGXylrfyyw&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


Apparently they need to offer a primer on university finances.


Do they? They seem to be doing fine.


Free to the clueless public.

Misinformation--like Trump implying that foreign students attend for free--is tough to fight.


I don't care if they pay their own way or not. We don't need to import agitators and educate them.


So you want to send 1,100,000 tuition-paying students away because a handful broke a few rules?

I think you need to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.


I want to deport the handful(which is more than that) but the university is not assisting in that.
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