Government Shutdown - Sep 2025 Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:RIF notices going out this morning to USPTO.

Damn, really? Were these already planned or as a result of the shutdown? Totally awful either way.

I think these were already planned but maybe accelerated by the shutdown.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are like, "it will get challenged in court" or "there's no appropriation so it can't happen" or "Congress won't agree" have never lived in a dictatorship and/or have no imagination. The administration has had many brilliant people thinking about this for many years. It will happen.

I know you are thinking why would brilliant people support this? Monopolies. Economic monopolies lead to political monopolies, just like in Nazi Germany. Billionaires think the democratic state is conspiring against them, holding them back from implementing their brilliant ideas with their dumb laws.

Your argument is that they will shutdown the government “forever” but also pay their preferred people while it’s shutdown. Where is the money coming from in that scenario? Be specific.

That's actually not a hard question. The Treasury HAS money from tax collection, fees, revenues, etc. The appropriations process is Congress giving permission and direction for spending it.

Do you know which branch of government runs the Treasury? This year OMB already slowed release of my agency's appropriated funds from the Treasury to keep us from bring able to spend them all as Congress directed. What would keep them from doing the reverse? Just the Constitution? Good luck.

If they could do that they would have already. Why haven’t they?

They’ve only been in power, what 8 months!? First they DOGE’d. Then they deployed the military. Now this. It was planned for the end of the fiscal year. What’s next? Full consolidation. Direct payments sidelining Congress. Then, democrats lose more seats and voila, Congress maybe gets some authority back.

You didn’t explain why the shutdown is necessary for any of that or why they didn’t do all this already.

It seems like you’re just peddling fear to get people to bug Democrats into rolling over for the current CR… which is kind of pointless since none of the horrible things you insist will happen depend on there being a shutdown.

They’ve only shutdown is necessary to consolidate power. They didn’t do it yet because they have a clear step by step plan, which is out there and easily accessible for you to read. I was a Democracy specialist at USAID. We studied autocracy, worked in various dictatorships for many years. I’m just calling it like I see it.

Yes this is exactly what is happening. If you don't like it...you better get your affairs in order and leave while you can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are like, "it will get challenged in court" or "there's no appropriation so it can't happen" or "Congress won't agree" have never lived in a dictatorship and/or have no imagination. The administration has had many brilliant people thinking about this for many years. It will happen.

I know you are thinking why would brilliant people support this? Monopolies. Economic monopolies lead to political monopolies, just like in Nazi Germany. Billionaires think the democratic state is conspiring against them, holding them back from implementing their brilliant ideas with their dumb laws.

Your argument is that they will shutdown the government “forever” but also pay their preferred people while it’s shutdown. Where is the money coming from in that scenario? Be specific.

That's actually not a hard question. The Treasury HAS money from tax collection, fees, revenues, etc. The appropriations process is Congress giving permission and direction for spending it.

Do you know which branch of government runs the Treasury? This year OMB already slowed release of my agency's appropriated funds from the Treasury to keep us from bring able to spend them all as Congress directed. What would keep them from doing the reverse? Just the Constitution? Good luck.

If they could do that they would have already. Why haven’t they?

They’ve only been in power, what 8 months!? First they DOGE’d. Then they deployed the military. Now this. It was planned for the end of the fiscal year. What’s next? Full consolidation. Direct payments sidelining Congress. Then, democrats lose more seats and voila, Congress maybe gets some authority back.

You didn’t explain why the shutdown is necessary for any of that or why they didn’t do all this already.

It seems like you’re just peddling fear to get people to bug Democrats into rolling over for the current CR… which is kind of pointless since none of the horrible things you insist will happen depend on there being a shutdown.

They’ve only shutdown is necessary to consolidate power. They didn’t do it yet because they have a clear step by step plan, which is out there and easily accessible for you to read. I was a Democracy specialist at USAID. We studied autocracy, worked in various dictatorships for many years. I’m just calling it like I see it.

I am as anti-Trump as you can get.

There is a "Democracy specialist" at USAID? Good riddance to that agency!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are like, "it will get challenged in court" or "there's no appropriation so it can't happen" or "Congress won't agree" have never lived in a dictatorship and/or have no imagination. The administration has had many brilliant people thinking about this for many years. It will happen.

I know you are thinking why would brilliant people support this? Monopolies. Economic monopolies lead to political monopolies, just like in Nazi Germany. Billionaires think the democratic state is conspiring against them, holding them back from implementing their brilliant ideas with their dumb laws.

Your argument is that they will shutdown the government “forever” but also pay their preferred people while it’s shutdown. Where is the money coming from in that scenario? Be specific.

That's actually not a hard question. The Treasury HAS money from tax collection, fees, revenues, etc. The appropriations process is Congress giving permission and direction for spending it.

Do you know which branch of government runs the Treasury? This year OMB already slowed release of my agency's appropriated funds from the Treasury to keep us from bring able to spend them all as Congress directed. What would keep them from doing the reverse? Just the Constitution? Good luck.

If they could do that they would have already. Why haven’t they?

They’ve only been in power, what 8 months!? First they DOGE’d. Then they deployed the military. Now this. It was planned for the end of the fiscal year. What’s next? Full consolidation. Direct payments sidelining Congress. Then, democrats lose more seats and voila, Congress maybe gets some authority back.

You didn’t explain why the shutdown is necessary for any of that or why they didn’t do all this already.

It seems like you’re just peddling fear to get people to bug Democrats into rolling over for the current CR… which is kind of pointless since none of the horrible things you insist will happen depend on there being a shutdown.

They’ve only shutdown is necessary to consolidate power. They didn’t do it yet because they have a clear step by step plan, which is out there and easily accessible for you to read. I was a Democracy specialist at USAID. We studied autocracy, worked in various dictatorships for many years. I’m just calling it like I see it.

Yes this is exactly what is happening. If you don't like it...you better get your affairs in order and leave while you can.

If this “plan” is so “accessible to read,” post the link please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are like, "it will get challenged in court" or "there's no appropriation so it can't happen" or "Congress won't agree" have never lived in a dictatorship and/or have no imagination. The administration has had many brilliant people thinking about this for many years. It will happen.

I know you are thinking why would brilliant people support this? Monopolies. Economic monopolies lead to political monopolies, just like in Nazi Germany. Billionaires think the democratic state is conspiring against them, holding them back from implementing their brilliant ideas with their dumb laws.

Your argument is that they will shutdown the government “forever” but also pay their preferred people while it’s shutdown. Where is the money coming from in that scenario? Be specific.

That's actually not a hard question. The Treasury HAS money from tax collection, fees, revenues, etc. The appropriations process is Congress giving permission and direction for spending it.

Do you know which branch of government runs the Treasury? This year OMB already slowed release of my agency's appropriated funds from the Treasury to keep us from bring able to spend them all as Congress directed. What would keep them from doing the reverse? Just the Constitution? Good luck.

If they could do that they would have already. Why haven’t they?

They’ve only been in power, what 8 months!? First they DOGE’d. Then they deployed the military. Now this. It was planned for the end of the fiscal year. What’s next? Full consolidation. Direct payments sidelining Congress. Then, democrats lose more seats and voila, Congress maybe gets some authority back.

You didn’t explain why the shutdown is necessary for any of that or why they didn’t do all this already.

It seems like you’re just peddling fear to get people to bug Democrats into rolling over for the current CR… which is kind of pointless since none of the horrible things you insist will happen depend on there being a shutdown.

They’ve only shutdown is necessary to consolidate power. They didn’t do it yet because they have a clear step by step plan, which is out there and easily accessible for you to read. I was a Democracy specialist at USAID. We studied autocracy, worked in various dictatorships for many years. I’m just calling it like I see it.

Yes this is exactly what is happening. If you don't like it...you better get your affairs in order and leave while you can.

This is a maga poster trying to get people convinced this is inevitable. They lived in a dictatorship my ass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So when will the Schumer Shutdown end?

How dumb do MAGAs think everyone is?

As dumb and pathetic as them. They’re bootlickers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are like, "it will get challenged in court" or "there's no appropriation so it can't happen" or "Congress won't agree" have never lived in a dictatorship and/or have no imagination. The administration has had many brilliant people thinking about this for many years. It will happen.

I know you are thinking why would brilliant people support this? Monopolies. Economic monopolies lead to political monopolies, just like in Nazi Germany. Billionaires think the democratic state is conspiring against them, holding them back from implementing their brilliant ideas with their dumb laws.

Your argument is that they will shutdown the government “forever” but also pay their preferred people while it’s shutdown. Where is the money coming from in that scenario? Be specific.

That's actually not a hard question. The Treasury HAS money from tax collection, fees, revenues, etc. The appropriations process is Congress giving permission and direction for spending it.

Do you know which branch of government runs the Treasury? This year OMB already slowed release of my agency's appropriated funds from the Treasury to keep us from bring able to spend them all as Congress directed. What would keep them from doing the reverse? Just the Constitution? Good luck.

If they could do that they would have already. Why haven’t they?

They’ve only been in power, what 8 months!? First they DOGE’d. Then they deployed the military. Now this. It was planned for the end of the fiscal year. What’s next? Full consolidation. Direct payments sidelining Congress. Then, democrats lose more seats and voila, Congress maybe gets some authority back.

You didn’t explain why the shutdown is necessary for any of that or why they didn’t do all this already.

It seems like you’re just peddling fear to get people to bug Democrats into rolling over for the current CR… which is kind of pointless since none of the horrible things you insist will happen depend on there being a shutdown.

They’ve only shutdown is necessary to consolidate power. They didn’t do it yet because they have a clear step by step plan, which is out there and easily accessible for you to read. I was a Democracy specialist at USAID. We studied autocracy, worked in various dictatorships for many years. I’m just calling it like I see it.

Yes this is exactly what is happening. If you don't like it...you better get your affairs in order and leave while you can.

If this “plan” is so “accessible to read,” post the link please.

People have already posted and posted links to Project 2025. Are you illiterate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are like, "it will get challenged in court" or "there's no appropriation so it can't happen" or "Congress won't agree" have never lived in a dictatorship and/or have no imagination. The administration has had many brilliant people thinking about this for many years. It will happen.

I know you are thinking why would brilliant people support this? Monopolies. Economic monopolies lead to political monopolies, just like in Nazi Germany. Billionaires think the democratic state is conspiring against them, holding them back from implementing their brilliant ideas with their dumb laws.

Your argument is that they will shutdown the government “forever” but also pay their preferred people while it’s shutdown. Where is the money coming from in that scenario? Be specific.

That's actually not a hard question. The Treasury HAS money from tax collection, fees, revenues, etc. The appropriations process is Congress giving permission and direction for spending it.

Do you know which branch of government runs the Treasury? This year OMB already slowed release of my agency's appropriated funds from the Treasury to keep us from bring able to spend them all as Congress directed. What would keep them from doing the reverse? Just the Constitution? Good luck.

If they could do that they would have already. Why haven’t they?

They’ve only been in power, what 8 months!? First they DOGE’d. Then they deployed the military. Now this. It was planned for the end of the fiscal year. What’s next? Full consolidation. Direct payments sidelining Congress. Then, democrats lose more seats and voila, Congress maybe gets some authority back.

You didn’t explain why the shutdown is necessary for any of that or why they didn’t do all this already.

It seems like you’re just peddling fear to get people to bug Democrats into rolling over for the current CR… which is kind of pointless since none of the horrible things you insist will happen depend on there being a shutdown.

They’ve only shutdown is necessary to consolidate power. They didn’t do it yet because they have a clear step by step plan, which is out there and easily accessible for you to read. I was a Democracy specialist at USAID. We studied autocracy, worked in various dictatorships for many years. I’m just calling it like I see it.

Yes this is exactly what is happening. If you don't like it...you better get your affairs in order and leave while you can.

If this “plan” is so “accessible to read,” post the link please.

People have already posted and posted links to Project 2025. Are you illiterate?

You sound ignorant.

[Anonymous]

If everyone is done calling other people names can we get back to the shutdown discussion? Does anyone know when the next vote will be? I just want to keep track of when I need to be paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If everyone is done calling other people names can we get back to the shutdown discussion? Does anyone know when the next vote will be? I just want to keep track of when I need to be paying attention.

They just had another vote. Read a newspaper.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If everyone is done calling other people names can we get back to the shutdown discussion? Does anyone know when the next vote will be? I just want to keep track of when I need to be paying attention.

They just had another vote. Read a newspaper.

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Seriously? Let’s unpack that. If I were to wait for a newspaper I wouldn’t know anything until tomorrow. Do you know what a newspaper is?

Last I saw they voted it down, they’re on vacation tomorrow and back Friday. Will they be voting again today?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If everyone is done calling other people names can we get back to the shutdown discussion? Does anyone know when the next vote will be? I just want to keep track of when I need to be paying attention.

They just had another vote. Read a newspaper.

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Seriously? Let’s unpack that. If I were to wait for a newspaper I wouldn’t know anything until tomorrow. Do you know what a newspaper is?

Last I saw they voted it down, they’re on vacation tomorrow and back Friday. Will they be voting again today?

Newspapers have these things now called websites where they provide updates as things happen.

[Anonymous]

I beleive the next vote is Friday, which means the earliest the government could open is Monday.

[Anonymous]

Republicans control the shutdown. Top to bottom. For example, construction of Trump's ballroom will continue as "essential" during the shutdown. But the stuff that helps you will not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans control the shutdown. Top to bottom. For example, construction of Trump's ballroom will continue as "essential" during the shutdown. But the stuff that helps you will not.

Ok that’s pathetic.