Matty and Taylor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She just released a new song with Gracie Abrams that seems to be about Matty too. She is so not over him.

Us:
“Robert Bly on my nightstand, gifts from you
How ironic the curse, oh, the miracle hurts, oh
How unoracle, *you're incomparable*, f you…
I felt it, you held it, do you miss us, us?
Wonder if you regret the secret of us, us”

Willing to bet good money that neither Joe nor Travis have ever heard of Robert Bly 🤣
And then she uses the same clues to talk about him as in other songs: holy, ghost, smoke and so on. But sure, it was a 2-week fling and she’s madly on love with TK.

That song was co-written with Gracie Abrams. It could just as easily be about one of her relationships. Or it could be *gasp* fiction.

NP but I just wonder why all of TS’s songs are so depressing lately? She sounds so sad sack all the time. Except on ‘so High School’ where she sounds incredibly immature.

I don’t remember all this Hate when Katie Perry wrote teenage dream… It’s in a very similar vein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She just released a new song with Gracie Abrams that seems to be about Matty too. She is so not over him.

Us:
“Robert Bly on my nightstand, gifts from you
How ironic the curse, oh, the miracle hurts, oh
How unoracle, *you're incomparable*, f you…
I felt it, you held it, do you miss us, us?
Wonder if you regret the secret of us, us”

Willing to bet good money that neither Joe nor Travis have ever heard of Robert Bly 🤣
And then she uses the same clues to talk about him as in other songs: holy, ghost, smoke and so on. But sure, it was a 2-week fling and she’s madly on love with TK.

Girl- that's about Gracie's ex!! Who is older than her... he's famous.

I think it’s probably a blend of both men. Taylor co-wrote the song and just played it on the Eras tour, so it’s her song too.

And given the lies about Folklore & Evermore,
I don’t believe the “fiction” narrative one bit any more, lol. There is no way Illicit Affairs was fiction (it wasn’t), it was too specific of a description of events.

Exactly

Well, Taylor and Gracie have both spoken about what inspired this song so I guess if you’re really Fans, you already know what they said about it…

[Anonymous]

This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She just released a new song with Gracie Abrams that seems to be about Matty too. She is so not over him.

Us:
“Robert Bly on my nightstand, gifts from you
How ironic the curse, oh, the miracle hurts, oh
How unoracle, *you're incomparable*, f you…
I felt it, you held it, do you miss us, us?
Wonder if you regret the secret of us, us”

Willing to bet good money that neither Joe nor Travis have ever heard of Robert Bly 🤣
And then she uses the same clues to talk about him as in other songs: holy, ghost, smoke and so on. But sure, it was a 2-week fling and she’s madly on love with TK.

That song was co-written with Gracie Abrams. It could just as easily be about one of her relationships. Or it could be *gasp* fiction.

NP but I just wonder why all of TS’s songs are so depressing lately? She sounds so sad sack all the time. Except on ‘so High School’ where she sounds incredibly immature.

I don’t remember all this Hate when Katie Perry wrote teenage dream… It’s in a very similar vein.

Katy Perry wrote an angsty song at 24. Taylor has albums of angsty songs at 34. One of these things is it like the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A fan of The 1975 here. I believe their song “Sincerity is Scary” (2018) is about Taylor:

And why would you believe you could control how you're perceived
When at your best, you're intermediately versed in your own feelings?
Keep on putting off conceiving
It's only you that you're deceiving
Oh, don't have a child, don't cramp your style, I'll leave it
Why can't we be friends, when we are lovers?
'Cause it always ends with us hating each other
Instead of calling me out, you should be pulling me in
I've just got one more thing to say
I'm just pissed off because you pied me off
After your show when you let go of my hand
In front of some sket who wanted bit on your
Nah, I'm just messing.

I have no doubt they were lovers while in (dead?) relationships with other people. Matt told her not to f&ck with him right after she announced at the Grammys that she will be releasing a new album. He said he had “receipts.” Imo, dirt on what really happened. His aunt mentioned that there is more that went on in their relationship than what Taylor is portraying. And then there is Tay’s entire discography detailing secret meetups, late nights in dark corners, long drives to houses with porch lights on for him, seeing him twisted in her bedsheets, canceling plans just in case he calls etc.

Oh she “Knew Places” where to hide them away from prying eyes alright I am picturing a cozy cabin on a lake in upstate New York with a fireplace, lots of good wine and a room full of musical instruments for them to compose on. Soundproof too for all the music and…..☺️

Here, I found one possible location for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Reh16Rh3Y

"A lovely, little country estate that happens to have a recording studio in it." 😳

Didn't she live in England for a year after the Kanye drama and before releasing Reputation?

You joke, but the style and even the shape of this English countryside cottage is the same as her Folklore & Evermore moss-covered house on the Eras set!!

[Anonymous]

People who know the Haylor timeline will understand that Matty was her rebound guy then too. Also, most of reputation is not about Matty. She and Joe dated and secret before they finally went public. She cheated on TH with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

+1 I agree with him, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who know the Haylor timeline will understand that Matty was her rebound guy then too. Also, most of reputation is not about Matty. She and Joe dated and secret before they finally went public. She cheated on TH with him.

Joe had no reputation whatsoever, so the lines "big reputations, we'd be a big conversation" and "you so dope, don't overdose", do not make sense for Joe. She also made nods to The 1975's song Robbers in Ready For It.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

Agree 1000%. She's going to be bitter over this one for awhile. He's truly brilliant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who know the Haylor timeline will understand that Matty was her rebound guy then too. Also, most of reputation is not about Matty. She and Joe dated and secret before they finally went public. She cheated on TH with him.

Joe had no reputation whatsoever, so the lines "big reputations, we'd be a big conversation" and "you so dope, don't overdose", do not make sense for Joe. She also made nods to The 1975's song Robbers in Ready For It.

There is no way Dancing With Our Hands Tied on Reputation is not about Matty. She again references being 25 in that song, as in the songs about him on TTPD. They were both 25 when they first dated in 2014 (both born in 1989).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

Or the drugs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

Agree 1000%. She's going to be bitter over this one for awhile. He's truly brilliant.

"A slender grasp of grammar"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

Agree 1000%. She's going to be bitter over this one for awhile. He's truly brilliant.

OMG, thanks for posting this link. I love this kid.

[Anonymous]

Taylor is that annoying theater kid who wants to pair up with other theater kids. Travis is like the well-known football player who joined theater for the attention and girls; he plays the comic relief. Matt is the clever outlier who joined theater because he likes pretending to be someone else; he plays the lead's best friend.

No combination is a good one. In the end, none of the three will compromise as much as they would want a romantic partner of theirs to compromise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This man is growing on me. I find him charming and articulate:

https://www.tiktok.com/@musicindustrymentor/video/7155183537858039045?lang=en

I’d be sad too if I had him and lost him because of my PR people and fans.

Agree 1000%. She's going to be bitter over this one for awhile. He's truly brilliant.

Is he bi-sexual? A lot of his interviews allude to his attraction to men.