BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.

We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.

We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.

DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.

Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.

If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.

What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?

The end game is for poster to stay alive to see their kids go to college. Empathy is always a good thing in life.

So you think it is rational to keep up those actions for years/decades? Despite having effective vaccines and treatments?

I really don't understand that at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.

We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.

We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.

DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.

Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.

If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.

What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?

The end game is for poster to stay alive to see their kids go to college. Empathy is always a good thing in life.

So you think it is rational to keep up those actions for years/decades? Despite having effective vaccines and treatments?

I really don't understand that at all.

DP. I think we’ve reached the point in the pandemic where we simply won’t understand some peoples choices.

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Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.

My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.

Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.

Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.

Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.

Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.

Why do we still have mental health minimizers? Why are you allowed to discuss your cancer but I can't discuss how my HoH mother has been completely isolated by masks or that seeing them all the time triggers PTSD in my friend who was raped or that the isolation I've been subjected to because of mandatory WFH has made me suicidal? Why can you discuss your concerns and I can't?

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Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.

My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.

Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.

Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.

Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.

Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.

Why do we still have mental health minimizers? Why are you allowed to discuss your cancer but I can't discuss how my HoH mother has been completely isolated by masks or that seeing them all the time triggers PTSD in my friend who was raped or that the isolation I've been subjected to because of mandatory WFH has made me suicidal? Why can you discuss your concerns and I can't?

+1 the lockdowns and having to help my kids with virtual schooling for a year have absolutely destroyed our family. I became depressed, the house is in shambles, and my kids now have anxiety. We dropped all activities and I haven’t been able to get my kids back to normal. My kids have little to no life or friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.

My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.

Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.

Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.

Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.

Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.

Why do we still have mental health minimizers? Why are you allowed to discuss your cancer but I can't discuss how my HoH mother has been completely isolated by masks or that seeing them all the time triggers PTSD in my friend who was raped or that the isolation I've been subjected to because of mandatory WFH has made me suicidal? Why can you discuss your concerns and I can't?

+1 the lockdowns and having to help my kids with virtual schooling for a year have absolutely destroyed our family. I became depressed, the house is in shambles, and my kids now have anxiety. We dropped all activities and I haven’t been able to get my kids back to normal. My kids have little to no life or friends.

I’m a teacher. Hybrid learning began in March 2021 and at no point since then, including all last school year, were kids ever fully online again by necessity. We had an entire year of in person school. If your kids do not have friends or a life in august 2022, something bigger is going on that you need to address. You cannot let the time period of virtual learning that ended 18 months ago be a scapegoat forever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.

My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.

Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.

Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.

Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.

Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.

Why do we still have mental health minimizers? Why are you allowed to discuss your cancer but I can't discuss how my HoH mother has been completely isolated by masks or that seeing them all the time triggers PTSD in my friend who was raped or that the isolation I've been subjected to because of mandatory WFH has made me suicidal? Why can you discuss your concerns and I can't?

+1 the lockdowns and having to help my kids with virtual schooling for a year have absolutely destroyed our family. I became depressed, the house is in shambles, and my kids now have anxiety. We dropped all activities and I haven’t been able to get my kids back to normal. My kids have little to no life or friends.

I’m a teacher. Hybrid learning began in March 2021 and at no point since then, including all last school year, were kids ever fully online again by necessity. We had an entire year of in person school. If your kids do not have friends or a life in august 2022, something bigger is going on that you need to address. You cannot let the time period of virtual learning that ended 18 months ago be a scapegoat forever.

Nicely said. If it destroyed your family, what was going on at home that was so bad that caused it. It sounds like you had mental health issues and let things fall apart. That could have happened regardless of virtual and you and your kids need to get mental health treatment. Start with your doctor, get an antidepressant and a therapist. Get your kids into family and individual therapy. You need to put your kids back in activities.

My kids have been in virtual for 2+ years and will do at least one more year. Its brought us closer as we have more time to spend together and eat together. Kids are in activities after school every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.

My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.

Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.

Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.

Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.

Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.

Why do we still have mental health minimizers? Why are you allowed to discuss your cancer but I can't discuss how my HoH mother has been completely isolated by masks or that seeing them all the time triggers PTSD in my friend who was raped or that the isolation I've been subjected to because of mandatory WFH has made me suicidal? Why can you discuss your concerns and I can't?

Start your own thread. This is about covid. You could have found a different job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.

My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.

Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.

Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.

Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.

Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.

Why do we still have mental health minimizers? Why are you allowed to discuss your cancer but I can't discuss how my HoH mother has been completely isolated by masks or that seeing them all the time triggers PTSD in my friend who was raped or that the isolation I've been subjected to because of mandatory WFH has made me suicidal? Why can you discuss your concerns and I can't?

+1 the lockdowns and having to help my kids with virtual schooling for a year have absolutely destroyed our family. I became depressed, the house is in shambles, and my kids now have anxiety. We dropped all activities and I haven’t been able to get my kids back to normal. My kids have little to no life or friends.

We never had real lockdowns. Stores were closed for a few months but you could still go out and do things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.

We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.

We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.

DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.

Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.

If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.

What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?

The end game is for poster to stay alive to see their kids go to college. Empathy is always a good thing in life.

So you think it is rational to keep up those actions for years/decades? Despite having effective vaccines and treatments?

I really don't understand that at all.

The vaccines are not stopping transmission and not everyone has access to treatments. I got covid a month ago and begged my doctors for something and they said no as they were concerned about side effects and rebound. They said if it got bad enough go to the ER. It got really bad but I couldn't get out of bed to even go to the ER.

I don't understand how you don't get how someone with cancer might be concerned about covid and how you think its no big deal to get covid while in cancer treatment. My kid lost a parent to cancer. Thankfully you have no idea the impact of that.

[Anonymous]

BA5 is a cold. Not a bad cold, just a cold, and it's gone in 5 days. Little bit of a cough left, but we'd have that anyway after a cold. Got it in Europe last month, where NO ONE was masked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.

We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.

We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.

DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.

Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.

If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.

What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?

The end game is for poster to stay alive to see their kids go to college. Empathy is always a good thing in life.

So you think it is rational to keep up those actions for years/decades? Despite having effective vaccines and treatments?

I really don't understand that at all.

The vaccines are not stopping transmission and not everyone has access to treatments. I got covid a month ago and begged my doctors for something and they said no as they were concerned about side effects and rebound. They said if it got bad enough go to the ER. It got really bad but I couldn't get out of bed to even go to the ER.

I don't understand how you don't get how someone with cancer might be concerned about covid and how you think its no big deal to get covid while in cancer treatment. My kid lost a parent to cancer. Thankfully you have no idea the impact of that.

DP
I have cancer. I’m in chemo right now. And I will never understand the Covid crazies. I mask when indoors when around others. I do not require my kids to or my husband to for that matter. Not everyone who is immunocompromised thinks death is lurking around every corner. Some of us are grounded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BA5 is a cold. Not a bad cold, just a cold, and it's gone in 5 days. Little bit of a cough left, but we'd have that anyway after a cold. Got it in Europe last month, where NO ONE was masked.

LOL. Because if there’s one thing we’re learned, it’s that Covid is the same for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BA5 is a cold. Not a bad cold, just a cold, and it's gone in 5 days. Little bit of a cough left, but we'd have that anyway after a cold. Got it in Europe last month, where NO ONE was masked.

Bad colds don't kill as many people as Covid has. Be real... that's great it was gone for you in 5 days. Not all of us are that fortunate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BA5 is a cold. Not a bad cold, just a cold, and it's gone in 5 days. Little bit of a cough left, but we'd have that anyway after a cold. Got it in Europe last month, where NO ONE was masked.

Wait .. so you are saying YOUR experience with Covid is going to be everyone’s experience with it? Amazing and fascinating. Why do we even have doctors and scientists when we have people on the internet to tell us about their personal experiences?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.

We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.

We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.

DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.

Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.

If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.

What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?

The end game is for poster to stay alive to see their kids go to college. Empathy is always a good thing in life.

So you think it is rational to keep up those actions for years/decades? Despite having effective vaccines and treatments?

I really don't understand that at all.

The vaccines are not stopping transmission and not everyone has access to treatments. I got covid a month ago and begged my doctors for something and they said no as they were concerned about side effects and rebound. They said if it got bad enough go to the ER. It got really bad but I couldn't get out of bed to even go to the ER.

I don't understand how you don't get how someone with cancer might be concerned about covid and how you think its no big deal to get covid while in cancer treatment. My kid lost a parent to cancer. Thankfully you have no idea the impact of that.

DP
I have cancer. I’m in chemo right now. And I will never understand the Covid crazies. I mask when indoors when around others. I do not require my kids to or my husband to for that matter. Not everyone who is immunocompromised thinks death is lurking around every corner. Some of us are grounded.

Good for you but not everyone is as fortunate as you are.