Spin-off: VDOE math changes?

[Anonymous]

Someone in another thread posted this link. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml

I was unaware of this proposal. My youngest kid (who is very strong at math) is in 4th grade now so I am trying to figure out what this may mean. Has anyone been following this closely? I'm new to Virginia so I don't have a great sense of the process and how much the counties have to follow stuff like this (or can they still track even if the state doesn't want to). Where I am from the local school districts are pretty autonomous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone in another thread posted this link. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml

I was unaware of this proposal. My youngest kid (who is very strong at math) is in 4th grade now so I am trying to figure out what this may mean. Has anyone been following this closely? I'm new to Virginia so I don't have a great sense of the process and how much the counties have to follow stuff like this (or can they still track even if the state doesn't want to). Where I am from the local school districts are pretty autonomous.

They've finally accepted the fact that they will never be able to level up the bottom 25% so they will be dumbing down the top 25% to make it all equitable.

[Anonymous]

Summary please??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone in another thread posted this link. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml

I was unaware of this proposal. My youngest kid (who is very strong at math) is in 4th grade now so I am trying to figure out what this may mean. Has anyone been following this closely? I'm new to Virginia so I don't have a great sense of the process and how much the counties have to follow stuff like this (or can they still track even if the state doesn't want to). Where I am from the local school districts are pretty autonomous.

They've finally accepted the fact that they will never be able to level up the bottom 25% so they will be dumbing down the top 25% to make it all equitable.

Geez. I hope not. When I was in school, we had honors classes for a reason. A teacher can focus a lot more on the bottom 25 if they aren’t trying to differentiate for everyone. Low, middle, high is the way to go.

[Anonymous]

Come on now DCUM Progressives, put your money where your mouth is.

This is equity, lowering the math curriculum content so all student outcomes are more equivalent in the end. This is fair for under-resourced minority families

Not all college courses and future employment need advanced math, and those that do need advanced math can be supplemented at home or wait to focus on advanced math in your kids Junior and Senior year. Your kids will be enriched by helping lower performing math students in mixed ability classes through their 10th grade.

Tracking advanced math students is racist since those students are predominantly white and Asian kids from UMC backgrounds. Public school is not about pushing/challenging these students. Public school is intended to bring students to a basic achievement level.

https://youtu.be/w4kowE_YIVw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone in another thread posted this link. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml

I was unaware of this proposal. My youngest kid (who is very strong at math) is in 4th grade now so I am trying to figure out what this may mean. Has anyone been following this closely? I'm new to Virginia so I don't have a great sense of the process and how much the counties have to follow stuff like this (or can they still track even if the state doesn't want to). Where I am from the local school districts are pretty autonomous.

They've finally accepted the fact that they will never be able to level up the bottom 25% so they will be dumbing down the top 25% to make it all equitable.

Geez. I hope not. When I was in school, we had honors classes for a reason. A teacher can focus a lot more on the bottom 25 if they aren’t trying to differentiate for everyone. Low, middle, high is the way to go.

This is very true. Stated plainly on the VDOE website.

I just moved my 2 kids to private for next school year. I really hope the end result is more independent/private school options for families who want their kids to get a solid challenging education. We are out for good, but I'm not too thrilled with a society full of dum-dums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on now DCUM Progressives, put your money where your mouth is.

This is equity, lowering the math curriculum content so all student outcomes are more equivalent in the end. This is fair for under-resourced minority families

Not all college courses and future employment need advanced math, and those that do need advanced math can be supplemented at home or wait to focus on advanced math in your kids Junior and Senior year. Your kids will be enriched by helping lower performing math students in mixed ability classes through their 10th grade.

Tracking advanced math students is racist since those students are predominantly white and Asian kids from UMC backgrounds. Public school is not about pushing/challenging these students. Public school is intended to bring students to a basic achievement level.

https://youtu.be/w4kowE_YIVw

+1000

Everyone screamed for "equity!", now you have equity so don't complain.

[Anonymous]

I worry what this means for Virginia students competing against out of state kids for college. It would be one thing if all states were going this route...but if we are the only one, that stinks.

[Anonymous]

So, will this not go into effect until 2025? If my youngest graduates in 2024, I don't need to be worried about this, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, will this not go into effect until 2025? If my youngest graduates in 2024, I don't need to be worried about this, right?

Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on now DCUM Progressives, put your money where your mouth is.

This is equity, lowering the math curriculum content so all student outcomes are more equivalent in the end. This is fair for under-resourced minority families

Not all college courses and future employment need advanced math, and those that do need advanced math can be supplemented at home or wait to focus on advanced math in your kids Junior and Senior year. Your kids will be enriched by helping lower performing math students in mixed ability classes through their 10th grade.

Tracking advanced math students is racist since those students are predominantly white and Asian kids from UMC backgrounds. Public school is not about pushing/challenging these students. Public school is intended to bring students to a basic achievement level.

https://youtu.be/w4kowE_YIVw

+1000

Everyone screamed for "equity!", now you have equity so don't complain.

Equity means raising the lower levels, but of course that is more complicated and expensive

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have a sense of how likely this is to happen? How would this work in a place like Fairfax that has AAP? Would AAP no longer be able to have a separate math track?

I am all for rethinking math education, but it seems hard to imagine how some kids will be ready for calculus in 11th grade (as shown in the flow charts) without some tracking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a sense of how likely this is to happen? How would this work in a place like Fairfax that has AAP? Would AAP no longer be able to have a separate math track?

I am all for rethinking math education, but it seems hard to imagine how some kids will be ready for calculus in 11th grade (as shown in the flow charts) without some tracking.

The only kids who will be ready are the ones with a lot of support. Those kids will be elite students and will continue to be white and Asian much to the dismay of the beaurecrats who make these stupid rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on now DCUM Progressives, put your money where your mouth is.

This is equity, lowering the math curriculum content so all student outcomes are more equivalent in the end. This is fair for under-resourced minority families

Not all college courses and future employment need advanced math, and those that do need advanced math can be supplemented at home or wait to focus on advanced math in your kids Junior and Senior year. Your kids will be enriched by helping lower performing math students in mixed ability classes through their 10th grade.

Tracking advanced math students is racist since those students are predominantly white and Asian kids from UMC backgrounds. Public school is not about pushing/challenging these students. Public school is intended to bring students to a basic achievement level.

https://youtu.be/w4kowE_YIVw

I think this is a troll post, and you are trying to Red Pill the Libs!

Love you finished with the Kamala equity video

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have any idea how likely this is to happen or whether the counties have to 100% follow this?