Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Erika is Catholic, why was she on a pilgrimage to Israel? Why not Rome?


Ever heard of a guy named Jesus? 🙄🙄

And it just so happened that Charlie was there in Israel at the exact same time? Is this a miracle too? Same as the bullet not being able to penetrate through Charlie’s flesh? Kind of like that?


Sure why not? You think the only ppl who travel to Israel are Jewish? Why is this some kooky thing to you that they could have met heading to Israel?


And her allegedly super Christian yet divorced parents ties to the defense industry and Israel is also just another crazy coincidence. As well as her long-term ties to Trump. She has known the Trump family longer than she knew her husband. So. Many. Coincidences.

When did she become super duper religious to go on a pilgrimage to Israel? How many nonjews do you know traveling to Israel?
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Anonymous wrote:She is a terrible actor.


Lot's of boo-hooing but no tears. A more skilled actress would at least be able to summon a few drops along with the application of some easy smudge mascara.



What in the hell is wrong with you?
Seriously- WTF is your problem?


DP. Did you watch that speech? She was acting.


Not to me to mention what kind of grief makes you think it makes sense to have your self filmed, again boo hoo, no tears, sniffle no snot over, your DH’s embalmed body in it’s casket, all the while caressing his cold makeup caked hands hands and snuggling your face in his hollow suit jacket clad chest.

So calculated and oh so vary creepy.

I’m sorry but your husband is dead, have some respect allow his corpse to repose in a little dignity.

Instead she chose to make it some macabre circus for clicks! Ugh…


So back at ya PP what is wrong with you that you are slopping this clownish display up.

I have to much respect for life and death to think stripping the departed of their dignity through such contrived bs is okay.

She’s not honoring her fallen husband she’s mocking him. I’m angry in Charlie Kirk’s behalf. And trust I was no fan. All decent folks should be.


Go away.


I will if you can tell me what disorder makes one susceptible to such garish displays of tomfoolery.

On second thought I don’t think it’s supposed to make sense.

From Martin Luther King’s “A Proper Sense of Priorities” “Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

The tomb of darkness that your sincere ignorance has encased you in, isn’t inescapable, but first you must summon the courage to embrace uncomfortable truths.

For there is deep value in honesty and truth, there however is nothing honorable in the embrace of those that bear false witness.

Salvation from stupidity will be your reward.

Go in peace grasshopper!
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Anonymous wrote:Erika is Catholic, why was she on a pilgrimage to Israel? Why not Rome?


Ever heard of a guy named Jesus? 🙄🙄

And it just so happened that Charlie was there in Israel at the exact same time? Is this a miracle too? Same as the bullet not being able to penetrate through Charlie’s flesh? Kind of like that?


Sure why not? You think the only ppl who travel to Israel are Jewish? Why is this some kooky thing to you that they could have met heading to Israel?


And her allegedly super Christian yet divorced parents ties to the defense industry and Israel is also just another crazy coincidence. As well as her long-term ties to Trump. She has known the Trump family longer than she knew her husband. So. Many. Coincidences.

When did she become super duper religious to go on a pilgrimage to Israel? How many nonjews do you know traveling to Israel?


Many Christians travel to Israel and have friends there.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?
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Anonymous wrote:Erika is Catholic, why was she on a pilgrimage to Israel? Why not Rome?


Ever heard of a guy named Jesus? 🙄🙄

And it just so happened that Charlie was there in Israel at the exact same time? Is this a miracle too? Same as the bullet not being able to penetrate through Charlie’s flesh? Kind of like that?


Sure why not? You think the only ppl who travel to Israel are Jewish? Why is this some kooky thing to you that they could have met heading to Israel?


And her allegedly super Christian yet divorced parents ties to the defense industry and Israel is also just another crazy coincidence. As well as her long-term ties to Trump. She has known the Trump family longer than she knew her husband. So. Many. Coincidences.

When did she become super duper religious to go on a pilgrimage to Israel? How many nonjews do you know traveling to Israel?


Many Christians travel to Israel and have friends there.

I am sure, but how many American nonjew millennials do you know who want to travel or have traveled to Israel? I don’t know even one.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?


You can search the stats yourself, but pre-pandemic something like 2.5 million Christians visited Israel every year. Obviously the pandemic shut those numbers down, but they were rising again until the October 7 attack after which the numbers have been far lower due to the ongoing conflict there.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.


And yes, I know that Bethlehem is in the Palestinian West Bank, not Israel proper - although Netanyahu and his ilk would like to change that if they could.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.

Perhaps it’s weird, but Israel is not a top destination for nonjews. There are probably at least 100 more popular destinations atm.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.

Perhaps it’s weird, but Israel is not a top destination for nonjews. There are probably at least 100 more popular destinations atm.


Right now Israel is not a top destination for anyone, they are at war and have a madman in power.

As to the rest of your comment - I don't think you are properly contextualizing 'top destination' in your assertion. Israel in peacetime may not be a top destination for vacationing, but for spiritual pilgrimage it's quite obviously a top destination because it's the only place on the planet where our Lord Jesus Christ was born, crucified and rose again.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.

Perhaps it’s weird, but Israel is not a top destination for nonjews. There are probably at least 100 more popular destinations atm.


Right now Israel is not a top destination for anyone, they are at war and have a madman in power.

As to the rest of your comment - I don't think you are properly contextualizing 'top destination' in your assertion. Israel in peacetime may not be a top destination for vacationing, but for spiritual pilgrimage it's quite obviously a top destination because it's the only place on the planet where our Lord Jesus Christ was born, crucified and rose again.

I guess. Only maybe ministers or clergy members or super extreme right wing Christians had any interest in going there. I still don’t believe Erika’s narrative of they just so happened to coincidentally be in Israel at the same time.
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charlie kirk was nothing but a con just like Don the Con.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.

Perhaps it’s weird, but Israel is not a top destination for nonjews. There are probably at least 100 more popular destinations atm.


Right now Israel is not a top destination for anyone, they are at war and have a madman in power.

As to the rest of your comment - I don't think you are properly contextualizing 'top destination' in your assertion. Israel in peacetime may not be a top destination for vacationing, but for spiritual pilgrimage it's quite obviously a top destination because it's the only place on the planet where our Lord Jesus Christ was born, crucified and rose again.

I guess. Only maybe ministers or clergy members or super extreme right wing Christians had any interest in going there. I still don’t believe Erika’s narrative of they just so happened to coincidentally be in Israel at the same time.


As I said and will now restate because you lack reading comprehension skills, I have attended LIBERAL churches and those are the Christians I personally know who wanted to make pilgrimage to Bethlehem and other places in the Holy Land which are noteworthy from Christ's earthly journey.

I think you are not a Christian yourself if you cannot grasp this.

Yes, I am sure conservative Christians also make pilgrimage to the Holy Land, but plenty of LIBERAL CHRISTIANS make pilgrimage there too - and no, they aren't all clergy by any means.

Don't be blinded by your hatred for Kirk and Kirk's wife - I have no idea about the context of their meeting or any of the conspiracy theories being discussed here, but I DO KNOW about Christians making pilgrimage to Bethlehem, Jerusalem, the Sea of Galilee, etc.

https://holylandpilgrimages.org/
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting though that Israel was brought up at all referring to Charlie and Erika meeting there or whatever. I only know of maybe two nonjews who have traveled to Israel. Why were they both going to Israel simultaneously? This is odd.


Is this real or just some antisemitic conspiracy? If it is true, it would be very suspicious.

They, at least Erika I believe, is on video stating this. It’s suspicious in that I honestly don’t know any nonjews remotely interested in going to the ME or Israel. And they went at the exact same time? Why?


Christians make pilgrimages to the Holy Land in droves, are you kidding? That goes for the spectrum of Christians from liberal ones who actually embrace the teachings from the Sermon on the Mount to the evangelical prosperity Christians who believe the Jews and conflict around Israel are the key to Armageddon and the second coming.

Do you actually know many Christians?

Yes I do and maybe two have traveled or have any interest in going to Israel.


To me that's weird. I've attended mostly liberal churches primarily Episcopal but other denominations as well and it seems like every year there were at least a few members of the congregation going to Israel. Being there are Christmastime is particularly attractive to some Christians as a spiritual pilgrimage.

Perhaps it’s weird, but Israel is not a top destination for nonjews. There are probably at least 100 more popular destinations atm.


Right now Israel is not a top destination for anyone, they are at war and have a madman in power.

As to the rest of your comment - I don't think you are properly contextualizing 'top destination' in your assertion. Israel in peacetime may not be a top destination for vacationing, but for spiritual pilgrimage it's quite obviously a top destination because it's the only place on the planet where our Lord Jesus Christ was born, crucified and rose again.

I guess. Only maybe ministers or clergy members or super extreme right wing Christians had any interest in going there. I still don’t believe Erika’s narrative of they just so happened to coincidentally be in Israel at the same time.


As I said and will now restate because you lack reading comprehension skills, I have attended LIBERAL churches and those are the Christians I personally know who wanted to make pilgrimage to Bethlehem and other places in the Holy Land which are noteworthy from Christ's earthly journey.

I think you are not a Christian yourself if you cannot grasp this.

Yes, I am sure conservative Christians also make pilgrimage to the Holy Land, but plenty of LIBERAL CHRISTIANS make pilgrimage there too - and no, they aren't all clergy by any means.

Don't be blinded by your hatred for Kirk and Kirk's wife - I have no idea about the context of their meeting or any of the conspiracy theories being discussed here, but I DO KNOW about Christians making pilgrimage to Bethlehem, Jerusalem, the Sea of Galilee, etc.

https://holylandpilgrimages.org/

I know lots of people, Christians, none of whom have any interest in ever traveling to Israel. And the younger the people, the less interest they have.
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