Josh Duggar arrested and in federal custody

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And maybe there needs to be a thread elsewhere.
I feel like this isn’t really appropriate for this specific forum.
Seems there is a deeper conversation that wants to be had about truth, and what we need for justice. What is too much?
How deeply do we need to stare into the abyss?
We are asking law enforcement to do that for us and they lose a piece of their souls every day.
And that could still only be a discussion in broad terms.

Which is why posts keep getting deleted. Those that desire to discuss the specifics should ask Jeff where it is appropriate to post. He’s made it clear not here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And maybe there needs to be a thread elsewhere.
I feel like this isn’t really appropriate for this specific forum.
Seems there is a deeper conversation that wants to be had about truth, and what we need for justice. What is too much?
How deeply do we need to stare into the abyss?
We are asking law enforcement to do that for us and they lose a piece of their souls every day.
And that could still only be a discussion in broad terms.

Which is why posts keep getting deleted. Those that desire to discuss the specifics should ask Jeff where it is appropriate to post. He’s made it clear not here.

No. He made it clear that he didn’t want unsubstantiated claims on this thread.
I’m suggesting there is an interesting deeper different discussion to be had, but it’s not about entertainment. Or maybe it is. I’d love to know why posters watched these people. Posters have said they totally saw this coming. Then why would you watch the show?
At some point more specifics will be made public and JS can cross that bridge when the time comes.

[Anonymous]

I’m okay with Jeff’s decision but I want to mention something....

When a CP case came on the news and I was watching with my mom, she turned to me and said what they filmed high school students having intercourse and they weren’t yet 18?

I do think for us more read and aware people we understand what this torture and abuse entails but many people...honestly do not. I chose to explain it to my mom more genetically ans she was horrified but many, many people are not aware.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Posters here did not know what the actual alleged crime is, because this thread exploded into a full blown panic attack of
“I need to bleach my brain”
“ I wish I could unread that post”
Etc etc
And to JS’s point, we don’t know exactly what he downloaded, but it has been reported the ages of the victims and that it is some of the worst of the worst by an agent working the case.
No need to click the link if you don’t want to know.

https://people.com/tv/josh-duggar-hearing-agent-reveals-timeline-child-porn-case/

I don't have to look at it, I worked as a librarian before blocking software became the norm. So much porn, so so so much super pervvy specific porn I will not describe because it's too horrific. I swear it gave me PTSD. Not to mention the guy who was harvesting people's half naked little kids photos from their unprotected social media pages and creating a database for those like him. He was reported and eventually arrested for who knows what they found on his computer at home. Good times.

JD should not be allowed anywhere near his own kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help thinking about the OTHER wives. Imagine being young Claire Spivey, Justin’s wife. Married at 19! She might not be completely brainwashed. But imagine learning your husband’s brother is a psychopath. Does that not instill ANY fear in your heart about what you married into?

I am NOT at ALL implying that the other brothers are dangerous. I am wondering about the familial effects: wouldn’t you wonder WTF your father is law is capable of?

All who married after Josh’s molestation crimes became public, knew what they married into. Every single spouse made an intentional choice to ignore the publicly available information because fame of the family was more important.

That's assuming they had access to the internet or someone who told them the truth about it...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posters here did not know what the actual alleged crime is, because this thread exploded into a full blown panic attack of
“I need to bleach my brain”
“ I wish I could unread that post”
Etc etc
And to JS’s point, we don’t know exactly what he downloaded, but it has been reported the ages of the victims and that it is some of the worst of the worst by an agent working the case.
No need to click the link if you don’t want to know.

https://people.com/tv/josh-duggar-hearing-agent-reveals-timeline-child-porn-case/

I don't have to look at it, I worked as a librarian before blocking software became the norm. So much porn, so so so much super pervvy specific porn I will not describe because it's too horrific. I swear it gave me PTSD. Not to mention the guy who was harvesting people's half naked little kids photos from their unprotected social media pages and creating a database for those like him. He was reported and eventually arrested for who knows what they found on his computer at home. Good times.

JD should not be allowed anywhere near his own kids.

It’s puzzling that he would still have any sort of access. I understand innocent until proven guilty, but it seems at the very least a third party should have to be present.

[Anonymous]

DP who saw a few of the graphic posts before they were removed. “Little kids and torture, not just teens showing their breasts” gives an inkling of the horror without being truly graphic. I don’t need to know all the horrific details to know there’s evil in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posters here did not know what the actual alleged crime is, because this thread exploded into a full blown panic attack of
“I need to bleach my brain”
“ I wish I could unread that post”
Etc etc
And to JS’s point, we don’t know exactly what he downloaded, but it has been reported the ages of the victims and that it is some of the worst of the worst by an agent working the case.
No need to click the link if you don’t want to know.

https://people.com/tv/josh-duggar-hearing-agent-reveals-timeline-child-porn-case/

I don't have to look at it, I worked as a librarian before blocking software became the norm. So much porn, so so so much super pervvy specific porn I will not describe because it's too horrific. I swear it gave me PTSD. Not to mention the guy who was harvesting people's half naked little kids photos from their unprotected social media pages and creating a database for those like him. He was reported and eventually arrested for who knows what they found on his computer at home. Good times.

JD should not be allowed anywhere near his own kids.

It’s puzzling that he would still have any sort of access. I understand innocent until proven guilty, but it seems at the very least a third party should have to be present.

This. I can’t believe he’s allowed around his children without a court officer present. I don’t think Anna has any agency in that house, at all, especially since their warehouse home is on JimBob and Michele’s property according to people who keep up with the Duggars and Josh’s parents already very much ignored his first assault (that were made public, anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more assaults). I cannot imagine that the judge thinks the children will be safe.

[Anonymous]

I, too, am SHOCKED the judge said he could see his kids. Come on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP who saw a few of the graphic posts before they were removed. “Little kids and torture, not just teens showing their breasts” gives an inkling of the horror without being truly graphic. I don’t need to know all the horrific details to know there’s evil in the world.

FYI every post I made with the word torture in it got deleted. And I didn’t even describe the alleged video. I just said it wasn’t porn it was torture and should be described as such to the public so that people don’t brush these crimes off as teens showing their breasts, to take your example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I, too, am SHOCKED the judge said he could see his kids. Come on...

Reminds me of the Brock Turner judge in a way. Thinking the defendant just made a mistake and is a good guy deep down. Makes me sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with Jeff’s decision but I want to mention something....

When a CP case came on the news and I was watching with my mom, she turned to me and said what they filmed high school students having intercourse and they weren’t yet 18?

I do think for us more read and aware people we understand what this torture and abuse entails but many people...honestly do not. I chose to explain it to my mom more genetically ans she was horrified but many, many people are not aware.

Yes! Even I wonder when I hear about sex offenders. A close friends’ brother knocked up his girlfriend and her parents had him arrested and thrown in jail. He was 18 and she was 16/17. Or you hear about men urinating in public and being arrested for it.

This Duggar case went way way beyond someone watching a video of a 17 year old in a porn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with Jeff’s decision but I want to mention something....

When a CP case came on the news and I was watching with my mom, she turned to me and said what they filmed high school students having intercourse and they weren’t yet 18?

I do think for us more read and aware people we understand what this torture and abuse entails but many people...honestly do not. I chose to explain it to my mom more genetically ans she was horrified but many, many people are not aware.

Yes! Even I wonder when I hear about sex offenders. A close friends’ brother knocked up his girlfriend and her parents had him arrested and thrown in jail. He was 18 and she was 16/17. Or you hear about men urinating in public and being arrested for it.

This Duggar case went way way beyond someone watching a video of a 17 year old in a porn.

WE GET IT!!!! anyone who doesn’t already can reread the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, too, am SHOCKED the judge said he could see his kids. Come on...

Reminds me of the Brock Turner judge in a way. Thinking the defendant just made a mistake and is a good guy deep down. Makes me sick.

Yeah that was in the back of my mind, as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with Jeff’s decision but I want to mention something....

When a CP case came on the news and I was watching with my mom, she turned to me and said what they filmed high school students having intercourse and they weren’t yet 18?

I do think for us more read and aware people we understand what this torture and abuse entails but many people...honestly do not. I chose to explain it to my mom more genetically ans she was horrified but many, many people are not aware.

Yes! Even I wonder when I hear about sex offenders. A close friends’ brother knocked up his girlfriend and her parents had him arrested and thrown in jail. He was 18 and she was 16/17. Or you hear about men urinating in public and being arrested for it.

This Duggar case went way way beyond someone watching a video of a 17 year old in a porn.

WE GET IT!!!! anyone who doesn’t already can reread the thread.

You don’t have to take part in the discussion if you don’t want to! Truly! (And people can’t scroll back because any post that hints that Josh is accused of seeing videos a little worse than what people tend to imagine, gets quickly flagged and deleted)