CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

The U.S. is now believed to be an exporter of the virus.

Sweden today announced 42 news cases, for a total of 203. One of the new cases is believed to have been contracted in the US. Contact tracing is underway.

https://www.svd.se/tre-nya-fall-i-orebro--en-smittad-i-usa
(Use Google Translate to read.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is now believed to be an exporter of the virus.

Sweden today announced 42 news cases, for a total of 203. One of the new cases is believed to have been contracted in the US. Contact tracing is underway.

https://www.svd.se/tre-nya-fall-i-orebro--en-smittad-i-usa
(Use Google Translate to read.)

The Swedish person brought it back to Sweden so it's better to say the Swedish person imported the virus LOL.

Most of the European vases are traced to Italy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a question. The story below, describes a Chinese family where all four members were infected with the virus after being quarantined at home in close quarters. All four (including 2 healthy adults in their 40s and 2 elderly parents) died within 2 weeks of one another. How is it possible that a virus with a fatality rate of 2% kills an entire family of four?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-25/doctors-fighting-coronavirus-in-china-die-of-both-infection-and-fatigue

Statistically, this seems highly unlikely. Could there be different strains of the virus in circulation that are more virulent than others?

I've hit a paywall but I think it also has to do with viral load, and yes, I think that there has been some mutuation.

viruses all mutate. there’s no evidence of a more virulent strain.

Two strains. The more virulent one was the first near Wuhan. L type.
http://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20200305-coronavirus-has-mutated-two-strains-lab-study-shows

Supposedly this has been debunked. Not sure I believe that though.

Link?

Given these flaws, we believe that Tang et al. should retract their paper, as the claims made in it are clearly unfounded and risk spreading dangerous misinformation at a crucial time in the outbreak.

http://virological.org/t/response-to-on-the-origin-and-continuing-evolution-of-sars-cov-2/418

Also, https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236117809609838592.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

[Anonymous]

Italy now is considering rationing intensive care to only those elderly most likely to survive:

ROME - The situation surrounding the coronavirus has become so extreme in Italy that an Italian association of anesthesia, analgesia, resuscitation and intensive care is proposing an age limit for people to be admitted to intensive care . Moreover, people who are more likely to survive should be given priority.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1214394339/artsen-...jdsgrens-nieuwe-patienten-voor

(I posted this on the DC thread, but it probably belongs on this one.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

We aren't seeing the mass rise in severe sickness requiring hospitalization and deaths despite having time for it to happen.

14/20 of the US deaths are all from just one nursing home. According to the nursing homes some of those deaths went from no signs of infection in the morning to dead by night.

Almost all the other deaths are related to the cruises.

So far we're not seeing people dropping dead from casually picking up the virus despite it's had plenty of time to spread throughout Seattle and NYC by now. The virus numbers have grown in NYC ever since the one man picked it up (and people forget before him there was an Iranian woman) but there's no stampede to the hospitals, there's no outbreaks of deaths. Just look at Seattle, which has had the longest period of outbreak in the US. Are the Seattle hospitals seeing a sharp rise of people seeking medical care? Nope. Even among other elderly care centers nothing is happening.

Of course I care about what happens to the elderly and very sick. And I'm doing my part by staying away from the elderly and very sick.

[Anonymous]

Australia has reversed its testing policy.

It is urging anyone with a flu-like symptom to get tested. Previously, testing was advised only for those with travel to a hotspot or who had contact with a confirmed case.

The health minister is now saying the government would rather overtest than undertest. "Get yourself tested."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-yourself-tested-coronavirus-health-advice-updated-for-sick-australians-20200308-p54800.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is now believed to be an exporter of the virus.

Sweden today announced 42 news cases, for a total of 203. One of the new cases is believed to have been contracted in the US. Contact tracing is underway.

https://www.svd.se/tre-nya-fall-i-orebro--en-smittad-i-usa
(Use Google Translate to read.)

More likely the airlines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

We aren't seeing the mass rise in severe sickness requiring hospitalization and deaths despite having time for it to happen.

14/20 of the US deaths are all from just one nursing home. According to the nursing homes some of those deaths went from no signs of infection in the morning to dead by night.

Almost all the other deaths are related to the cruises.

So far we're not seeing people dropping dead from casually picking up the virus despite it's had plenty of time to spread throughout Seattle and NYC by now. The virus numbers have grown in NYC ever since the one man picked it up (and people forget before him there was an Iranian woman) but there's no stampede to the hospitals, there's no outbreaks of deaths. Just look at Seattle, which has had the longest period of outbreak in the US. Are the Seattle hospitals seeing a sharp rise of people seeking medical care? Nope. Even among other elderly care centers nothing is happening.

Of course I care about what happens to the elderly and very sick. And I'm doing my part by staying away from the elderly and very sick.

Prepare to eat your words. You seriously don't understand what is actually going on, or more to the point, don't want to.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for sharing everyone. There’s been threads that are locked not bc they are large. Looks like censoring here and it’s unamerican. This is not China. Im moving to another platform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

We aren't seeing the mass rise in severe sickness requiring hospitalization and deaths despite having time for it to happen.

14/20 of the US deaths are all from just one nursing home. According to the nursing homes some of those deaths went from no signs of infection in the morning to dead by night.

Almost all the other deaths are related to the cruises.

So far we're not seeing people dropping dead from casually picking up the virus despite it's had plenty of time to spread throughout Seattle and NYC by now. The virus numbers have grown in NYC ever since the one man picked it up (and people forget before him there was an Iranian woman) but there's no stampede to the hospitals, there's no outbreaks of deaths. Just look at Seattle, which has had the longest period of outbreak in the US. Are the Seattle hospitals seeing a sharp rise of people seeking medical care? Nope. Even among other elderly care centers nothing is happening.

Of course I care about what happens to the elderly and very sick. And I'm doing my part by staying away from the elderly and very sick.

This is rather foolish thinking. We’ve already seen how this virus works. The severe conditions in other countries over the past 2 months have provided valuable lessons for this that choose to learn from it.

They are not even testing for coronavirus in Washington State now because it is deemed as endemic. Endemic to an area that had nothing 2 weeks ago.

Does that sound like it’s likely to die off? And if you think the numbers are being reported accurately, then again you have not learned from watching the mistakes of other countries before us as we now make those same mistakes.

And staying away from old people and sick people does not stop spread. Do you think that there are no 20,30,40 year olds with asthma, autoimmune issues, diabetes, etc ? What about you 35 year old coworker who may have an immunocompromised child or spouse? Or your friend that works in a school where a child in their class has a parent going through cancer treatments?

This is why everyone in a community needs to act preventatively together. Not just thinking that all will be fine as long as the old people keep distance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

We aren't seeing the mass rise in severe sickness requiring hospitalization and deaths despite having time for it to happen.

14/20 of the US deaths are all from just one nursing home. According to the nursing homes some of those deaths went from no signs of infection in the morning to dead by night.

Almost all the other deaths are related to the cruises.

So far we're not seeing people dropping dead from casually picking up the virus despite it's had plenty of time to spread throughout Seattle and NYC by now. The virus numbers have grown in NYC ever since the one man picked it up (and people forget before him there was an Iranian woman) but there's no stampede to the hospitals, there's no outbreaks of deaths. Just look at Seattle, which has had the longest period of outbreak in the US. Are the Seattle hospitals seeing a sharp rise of people seeking medical care? Nope. Even among other elderly care centers nothing is happening.

Of course I care about what happens to the elderly and very sick. And I'm doing my part by staying away from the elderly and very sick.

This is rather foolish thinking. We’ve already seen how this virus works. The severe conditions in other countries over the past 2 months have provided valuable lessons for this that choose to learn from it.

They are not even testing for coronavirus in Washington State now because it is deemed as endemic. Endemic to an area that had nothing 2 weeks ago.

Does that sound like it’s likely to die off? And if you think the numbers are being reported accurately, then again you have not learned from watching the mistakes of other countries before us as we now make those same mistakes.

And staying away from old people and sick people does not stop spread. Do you think that there are no 20,30,40 year olds with asthma, autoimmune issues, diabetes, etc ? What about you 35 year old coworker who may have an immunocompromised child or spouse? Or your friend that works in a school where a child in their class has a parent going through cancer treatments?

This is why everyone in a community needs to act preventatively together. Not just thinking that all will be fine as long as the old people keep distance.

Come early summer it'll be interesting to see how quickly people forget about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

We aren't seeing the mass rise in severe sickness requiring hospitalization and deaths despite having time for it to happen.

14/20 of the US deaths are all from just one nursing home. According to the nursing homes some of those deaths went from no signs of infection in the morning to dead by night.

Almost all the other deaths are related to the cruises.

So far we're not seeing people dropping dead from casually picking up the virus despite it's had plenty of time to spread throughout Seattle and NYC by now. The virus numbers have grown in NYC ever since the one man picked it up (and people forget before him there was an Iranian woman) but there's no stampede to the hospitals, there's no outbreaks of deaths. Just look at Seattle, which has had the longest period of outbreak in the US. Are the Seattle hospitals seeing a sharp rise of people seeking medical care? Nope. Even among other elderly care centers nothing is happening.

Of course I care about what happens to the elderly and very sick. And I'm doing my part by staying away from the elderly and very sick.

This is rather foolish thinking. We’ve already seen how this virus works. The severe conditions in other countries over the past 2 months have provided valuable lessons for this that choose to learn from it.

They are not even testing for coronavirus in Washington State now because it is deemed as endemic. Endemic to an area that had nothing 2 weeks ago.

Does that sound like it’s likely to die off? And if you think the numbers are being reported accurately, then again you have not learned from watching the mistakes of other countries before us as we now make those same mistakes.

And staying away from old people and sick people does not stop spread. Do you think that there are no 20,30,40 year olds with asthma, autoimmune issues, diabetes, etc ? What about you 35 year old coworker who may have an immunocompromised child or spouse? Or your friend that works in a school where a child in their class has a parent going through cancer treatments?

This is why everyone in a community needs to act preventatively together. Not just thinking that all will be fine as long as the old people keep distance.

I’m doing my part to be around people as little as possible. In other words, I’m not changing my behavior at all from its usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I for one am not paranoid nor am I expecting much to happen. So far there's been 19 deaths in the US, but 14 are from the same nursing home in Seattle. Which is very unfortunate, but that pattern hasn't spread elsewhere. The rate of hospitalization hasn't increased anywhere else in the country, not even in Seattle. The virus has been spreading around NYC for a few weeks now and we all know the recorded number of positive cases are greatly under counted, but there's been no deaths nor a rush on the hospitals. Mark my words, we'll see growing numbers of positive cases but not much else and after a few weeks it'll be NBD.

Welcome to DCUM, President Trump!

Cool it, Karen. I know some people are getting a perverse pleasure out of their fear and paranoia, so feed off it while it lasts.

I'm curious, why do you think the virus will just die out? Have you not seen what has happened in Italy? Why do you think the U.S. will be immune from that?

And why do you not care about people in nursing homes? What is being done to keep the virus out of nursing homes?

We aren't seeing the mass rise in severe sickness requiring hospitalization and deaths despite having time for it to happen.

14/20 of the US deaths are all from just one nursing home. According to the nursing homes some of those deaths went from no signs of infection in the morning to dead by night.

Almost all the other deaths are related to the cruises.

So far we're not seeing people dropping dead from casually picking up the virus despite it's had plenty of time to spread throughout Seattle and NYC by now. The virus numbers have grown in NYC ever since the one man picked it up (and people forget before him there was an Iranian woman) but there's no stampede to the hospitals, there's no outbreaks of deaths. Just look at Seattle, which has had the longest period of outbreak in the US. Are the Seattle hospitals seeing a sharp rise of people seeking medical care? Nope. Even among other elderly care centers nothing is happening.

Of course I care about what happens to the elderly and very sick. And I'm doing my part by staying away from the elderly and very sick.

You're right, it's not too bad right now. But this virus isn't going to just stop infecting people. In fact, each person with CV infects, on average, 2-3 other people. So what we've seen in countries where there's been no mitigation, the number of cases doubles about every 6 days.

Let's look at Italy. The first death from CV in Italy was ONLY 16 DAYS AGO. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-italy/coronavirus-outbreak-grows-in-northern-italy-16-cases-reported-in-one-day-idUSKBN20F0UI

That day, February 21st,

Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said he would meet the chiefs of Italy’s civil protection agency, and that the situation was under control.

“We were ready for this (outbreak) ... the people have no need to be worried, we will adopt increasingly severe and precautionary measures,” he said.

[Anonymous]

OPM released guidance yesterday on how this will affect the federal workforce. Thread on it here. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/862924.page