Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

It has to be that he didn't get in to Harvard and Columbia. Nothing else explains the obsession, and that explains it so well.

Trump probably thought being an ex-president meant his son would automatically get in.

Or maybe it has to do with the attacks on Jews.

Because Harvard and Columbia are the only 2 places in the country with protests in support of Palestine?

It just doesn't hold water -- neither the complaint nor the asks.

Columbia was prominently in the news, with city cops involved.
Harvard is the top university. If Trump can bring pain to Harvard, other universities will fall in line.

Who will want to do research at Harvard, unsure if their funding will dry up?
What foreign students will come, having to check and see if the TRO is still in place?

Harvard will probably have to dip in to their endowment for a few years until Democrats take back the executive branch.
It is probably not as high as stated if they have to start selling, but still tens of billions of dollars.

They should start by divesting their endowments of any investments in Tesla and other maga corporations.

Haven't they already? What a loser investment that is. Should have been dumped quite a while ago.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t send him to Miami instead. NYU is a lot more liberal, maybe he just wanted to be back in New York.

or his mom did, since they are joined at the hip

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t send him to Miami instead. NYU is a lot more liberal, maybe he just wanted to be back in New York.

or his mom did, since they are joined at the hip

Well, if they are opposed to him working with foreign students, they certainly sent him to the wrong place.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is such a dumba**. Now he’s claiming that foreign students need remedial math. On the contrary, when I was a student in Boston, I had a lot of international friends at Harvard and MIT; some were grad TAs and they said that they had to teach Americans remedial math.

Harvard has started offering remedial math courses.

Yes, but the American students are filling the remedial math courses...not the foreign students he wants to keep out. Because other countries actually teach math and literacy in high schools.

Agree, but we’ve lowered the bar for everything in education and it seems now that’s been intentional to justify bringing in lower wage workers (via college grads) from overseas rhat they can abuse and take advantage over. We continue to graduate students without educating them. This is one of many departures from what schools were once like. The Universal Party (red + blue) hates Americans. The Democrats are actually happy with Trump dismantling things so they don’t have to do it behind the scenes post 2028.

It's what happens when you try to have people attend college who really don't have the skills or intellect for it.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

It has to be that he didn't get in to Harvard and Columbia. Nothing else explains the obsession, and that explains it so well.

Trump probably thought being an ex-president meant his son would automatically get in.

Or maybe it has to do with the attacks on Jews.

Because Harvard and Columbia are the only 2 places in the country with protests in support of Palestine?

It just doesn't hold water -- neither the complaint nor the asks.

Columbia was prominently in the news, with city cops involved.
Harvard is the top university. If Trump can bring pain to Harvard, other universities will fall in line.

Who will want to do research at Harvard, unsure if their funding will dry up?
What foreign students will come, having to check and see if the TRO is still in place?

Harvard will probably have to dip in to their endowment for a few years until Democrats take back the executive branch.
It is probably not as high as stated if they have to start selling, but still tens of billions of dollars.

I think NYU made sense for Barron and doubt the Trump family had any interest in sending him to an IVY. MAGS supporters would have been called hypocrites if they had done so after complaining about the liberal Ivy’s.

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Harvard is doing the fighting for all of Academia as they are able to do so. They have been around 350 plus years. They will pay a price that will be painful in the short term, but that institution will be just fine long after DT is dead and buried.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

It has to be that he didn't get in to Harvard and Columbia. Nothing else explains the obsession, and that explains it so well.

Trump probably thought being an ex-president meant his son would automatically get in.

Or maybe it has to do with the attacks on Jews.

Because Harvard and Columbia are the only 2 places in the country with protests in support of Palestine?

It just doesn't hold water -- neither the complaint nor the asks.

Columbia was prominently in the news, with city cops involved.
Harvard is the top university. If Trump can bring pain to Harvard, other universities will fall in line.

Who will want to do research at Harvard, unsure if their funding will dry up?
What foreign students will come, having to check and see if the TRO is still in place?

Harvard will probably have to dip in to their endowment for a few years until Democrats take back the executive branch.
It is probably not as high as stated if they have to start selling, but still tens of billions of dollars.

I think NYU made sense for Barron and doubt the Trump family had any interest in sending him to an IVY. MAGS supporters would have been called hypocrites if they had done so after complaining about the liberal Ivy’s.

If sending your maga boy to one of the most liberal colleges in the country makes sense, then sure.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

It has to be that he didn't get in to Harvard and Columbia. Nothing else explains the obsession, and that explains it so well.

Trump probably thought being an ex-president meant his son would automatically get in.

Or maybe it has to do with the attacks on Jews.

Because Harvard and Columbia are the only 2 places in the country with protests in support of Palestine?

It just doesn't hold water -- neither the complaint nor the asks.

Columbia was prominently in the news, with city cops involved.
Harvard is the top university. If Trump can bring pain to Harvard, other universities will fall in line.

Who will want to do research at Harvard, unsure if their funding will dry up?
What foreign students will come, having to check and see if the TRO is still in place?

Harvard will probably have to dip in to their endowment for a few years until Democrats take back the executive branch.
It is probably not as high as stated if they have to start selling, but still tens of billions of dollars.

I think NYU made sense for Barron and doubt the Trump family had any interest in sending him to an IVY. MAGS supporters would have been called hypocrites if they had done so after complaining about the liberal Ivy’s.

NYU is pretty liberal.

But, anyway, if that was a top choice, why didn't he apply on the regular schedule?

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

All the free ones.

I don’t know who told you that people here don’t have 1A rights, but you should stop parroting it. It makes you look like a dolt.

Your post makes you sound like a dolt, and a spoiled, entitled one at that. I doubt seriously that a racist klansman like David Duke would be welcome to express his views, disrupt classes, and block streets in any "free country."

I responded to a post about protesting. You’re moving the goalpost and pretending it makes me look dumb. It’s not me looking dumb here, honey.

Nope. The poster described what the protests involved. That's not moving goalposts. You're pretending that the protestors were simply engaging in free speech. Not true.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

It has to be that he didn't get in to Harvard and Columbia. Nothing else explains the obsession, and that explains it so well.

Trump probably thought being an ex-president meant his son would automatically get in.

Or maybe it has to do with the attacks on Jews.

Because Harvard and Columbia are the only 2 places in the country with protests in support of Palestine?

It just doesn't hold water -- neither the complaint nor the asks.

Columbia was prominently in the news, with city cops involved.
Harvard is the top university. If Trump can bring pain to Harvard, other universities will fall in line.

Who will want to do research at Harvard, unsure if their funding will dry up?
What foreign students will come, having to check and see if the TRO is still in place?

Harvard will probably have to dip in to their endowment for a few years until Democrats take back the executive branch.
It is probably not as high as stated if they have to start selling, but still tens of billions of dollars.

I think NYU made sense for Barron and doubt the Trump family had any interest in sending him to an IVY. MAGS supporters would have been called hypocrites if they had done so after complaining about the liberal Ivy’s.

Yeah right. Excuses, excuses. NYU is everything those blowwards hate. It is a very, very liberal school. Now had they sent him to Vanderbilt, Duke, or Wake Forest you might score some points, but nope.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Why is the federal government trying to involve themselves in specific cases of school discipline? Don't you think they have better things to do?

So they can revoke visas of the Jew haters.

No, so they can revoke the visas of all foreign students.

The goal was to revoke the visas of Jew haters based on Harvard's records. Since Harvard didn't provide the records, they revoked all visas.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t send him to Miami instead. NYU is a lot more liberal, maybe he just wanted to be back in New York.

or his mom did, since they are joined at the hip

Barron and Melanie are each other’s best and only friend.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

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Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

It has to be that he didn't get in to Harvard and Columbia. Nothing else explains the obsession, and that explains it so well.

Trump probably thought being an ex-president meant his son would automatically get in.

Or maybe it has to do with the attacks on Jews.

Because Harvard and Columbia are the only 2 places in the country with protests in support of Palestine?

It just doesn't hold water -- neither the complaint nor the asks.

Columbia was prominently in the news, with city cops involved.
Harvard is the top university. If Trump can bring pain to Harvard, other universities will fall in line.

Who will want to do research at Harvard, unsure if their funding will dry up?
What foreign students will come, having to check and see if the TRO is still in place?

Harvard will probably have to dip in to their endowment for a few years until Democrats take back the executive branch.
It is probably not as high as stated if they have to start selling, but still tens of billions of dollars.

But all that just shows that it's a vendetta aimed at harming Harvard and other elite universities. The actions and threats are neither porportionate to nor relevant to issues of anti-semitism.

Proportionate response was for Harvard to comply with the given requests. Why issue foreign visas if it means bringing in Jew haters, and the university will not assist in revoking these visas?

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Why is the federal government trying to involve themselves in specific cases of school discipline? Don't you think they have better things to do?

So they can revoke visas of the Jew haters.

No, so they can revoke the visas of all foreign students.

The goal was to revoke the visas of Jew haters based on Harvard's records. Since Harvard didn't provide the records, they revoked all visas.

And who are the foreign student “Jew haters”? Any names you can provide? If you know who they are, why doesn’t DHS? Why do they need Harvard’s records?

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In a NYT article, "Harvard administrators have privately determined they are in a major, major, major, crisis with very few, if any, good off ramps."