Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Let's get this right. Settlers came to America and built something. Immigrants came to something that was already built.

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Wow the DAR snobs out in force tonight. I’m proud descendent of 19th and 20th century immigrants who came to a country where previous arrivals had built something, and who helped to build something even better, working in factories and building America’s bridges and roads to create the world’s greatest economy.

That's cool, doesn't mean we are at our foundation a nation of immigrants and should allow for mass immigration now. None of this means that immigration never happened. Just means that plenty of us are not immigrants or descendant from immigrants, and do not have warm fuzzy feeling about immigration.

Why won't you answer which tribal nation you belong to?

One, I don't have to answer any of your questions, and two, I am talking about the nation and the establishment of a government, not simply land.

Yeah so your ancestors came over here on a boat some time after the 16th century, just like most of American's ancestors did.

Guess what, there were already nations here across the North American continent.

Her ancestors murdered those people so they don't count.

Yes, the ones that came in the 1600s (not 16th century) formed the nation and government of the USA. Yes, including the slaves. They and their their descendants are not immigrants.

1600s is after the 16th century, no?

And did they come over on a boat? And did they establish residence in a place which was not the country of their birth? Then they immigrated. Learn your vocabulary.

They didn't immigrate. They formed a country that did not exist beforehand.

WTF is wrong with you? Why are you so invested in not have any immigrants in you bloodline. How very Heil Hitler of you. — NP and qualifies for the DAR, but has better things to do than join.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the whole debate. Earlier, I thought Vance was going to smooth talk his smiling face to "win" the debate. Until a few things happened.

1. Vance broke character to complain to the women moderators when they fact-checked him on Haitian immigrants being legally in OH by whining: "You promised you wouldn't fact-check me!" (That was embarrassing.)

2. When Walz asked Vance point blank if Trump lost the 2020 election and Vance couldn't say yes, instead tried lamely to change the subject like a used car salesman and Walz said "Enough. That was a damning non-answer. Are you going to honor democracy or jump honor Trump?" (Full knock-out punch.)

I don't know how Vance can survive replays of the clips of that moment on Jan 6. It was the only knock out punch in the debate. And Walz looked pained to deliver the punch because he's so dignified and kind.

I think that was utter disappointment and disgust on Walz's face.

Walz was embarrassing.

You mean Vance, the one who couldn't even say that Trump lost in 2020. That was a brutal way to end the debate for Vance.

Yeah the end of the debate was brutal for JD.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance has a point.

10 million migrants in the last 4 years. Coming to US. That’s million of new homes needed when they are in short supply.

Makes sense.

You think illegal migrants are buying homes? With what money?

Are you serious? There are hundreds of thousands Russians and Ukrainians crossed the border in the last two years, they all buying for cash.

Is this true??!!!

No. They flew in the country in KLM and overstayed their visas. They didn’t walk across the border.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the whole debate. Earlier, I thought Vance was going to smooth talk his smiling face to "win" the debate. Until a few things happened.

1. Vance broke character to complain to the women moderators when they fact-checked him on Haitian immigrants being legally in OH by whining: "You promised you wouldn't fact-check me!" (That was embarrassing.)

2. When Walz asked Vance point blank if Trump lost the 2020 election and Vance couldn't say yes, instead tried lamely to change the subject like a used car salesman and Walz said "Enough. That was a damning non-answer. Are you going to honor democracy or jump honor Trump?" (Full knock-out punch.)

I don't know how Vance can survive replays of the clips of that moment on Jan 6. It was the only knock out punch in the debate. And Walz looked pained to deliver the punch because he's so dignified and kind.

I think that was utter disappointment and disgust on Walz's face.

Walz was embarrassing.

Walz was ok. Not great. He looked horrible in the China lie….

Shameful.

Kamla won't show her face so at least Walz showed up I guess lol

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Anonymous wrote:Does Vance not believe in climate change?

Don't you get tired of being lied to?

I'm tired of agenda driven media that is fake.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the whole debate. Earlier, I thought Vance was going to smooth talk his smiling face to "win" the debate. Until a few things happened.

1. Vance broke character to complain to the women moderators when they fact-checked him on Haitian immigrants being legally in OH by whining: "You promised you wouldn't fact-check me!" (That was embarrassing.)

2. When Walz asked Vance point blank if Trump lost the 2020 election and Vance couldn't say yes, instead tried lamely to change the subject like a used car salesman and Walz said "Enough. That was a damning non-answer. Are you going to honor democracy or jump honor Trump?" (Full knock-out punch.)

I don't know how Vance can survive replays of the clips of that moment on Jan 6. It was the only knock out punch in the debate. And Walz looked pained to deliver the punch because he's so dignified and kind.

Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, Kamala picked someone who would not outshine her. And she succeeded.

I don’t think that was the focus but on someone who would balance out her perceived weaknesses.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the whole debate. Earlier, I thought Vance was going to smooth talk his smiling face to "win" the debate. Until a few things happened.

1. Vance broke character to complain to the women moderators when they fact-checked him on Haitian immigrants being legally in OH by whining: "You promised you wouldn't fact-check me!" (That was embarrassing.)

2. When Walz asked Vance point blank if Trump lost the 2020 election and Vance couldn't say yes, instead tried lamely to change the subject like a used car salesman and Walz said "Enough. That was a damning non-answer. Are you going to honor democracy or jump honor Trump?" (Full knock-out punch.)

I don't know how Vance can survive replays of the clips of that moment on Jan 6. It was the only knock out punch in the debate. And Walz looked pained to deliver the punch because he's so dignified and kind.

And i watched the whole debate and completely disagree with your first point. MB in particular was repeatedly fact checking Vance and not Walz, despite what the rules were supposed to be. As I woman I found her condescending and am fine with what Vance said to her.

As far as your second point, dunno. By then the debate put me to sleep.

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Oh that's funny 😂

NP. It is. Vance isn't my type but that face is intriguing in this photo.

Walz's face unfortunately reminds me of a frog.

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Anonymous wrote:another blatant lie

Woosh!

That is totally not the flex you think it is. I don't USA on that chart.

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Now for Stephen Colbert’s take on the VO debate - can’t wait

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Anonymous wrote:Does Vance not believe in climate change?

Don't you get tired of being lied to?

I'm tired of agenda driven media that is fake.

You're Being Lied To About Ocean Plastic | Truth Complex | Business Insider

Plastic pollution is getting worse — despite widespread public awareness of the problem, massive investment in recycling, and years of pledges to stop polluting. So what do we get wrong when we talk about ocean plastic? A lot, it turns out.

Business Insider Producer Elizabeth McCauley dives into the scientific literature and talks to experts to find out how we actually solve this problem.

I have no idea why you would conflate ocean plastic with climate change.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, Kamala picked someone who would not outshine her. And she succeeded.

I don’t think that was the focus but on someone who would balance out her perceived weaknesses.

She's not Biden, and Walz balanced that out by being like Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, Kamala picked someone who would not outshine her. And she succeeded.

I don’t think that was the focus but on someone who would balance out her perceived weaknesses.

She's not Biden, and Walz balanced that out by being like Biden.

Omg. That’s hilarious.

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No one running for office is advocating for open borders you ignorant rube.[/quote

Yeah kamlas "don't come" was enough huh?

Asked what she says to Iran, "DON'T".