| People are getting shot and killed almost daily in some neighborhoods, not to mention the car jacking and robberies. |
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https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-trump-use-insurrection-act-deploy-troops-american-streets
This is a pretty good discussion of posse comitatus |
| They aren't police and aren't trained as police. They are soldiers. |
Yep. They are not law enforcement. |
| Declare war on Black people, in other words? |
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Dude. The National guard troops couldn’t even be used against domestic terrorists trying to take over government... You think they’re going to get involved in drug deals? |
| Militarized police have had such terrific consequences, sure, OP. And total lack of law enforcement experience will really pay off too. |
| Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood? |
I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough. |
yes, their rules of engagement are stricter, they are expected to actually follow them and there is no equivalent of the blue wall of silence |
You should reconsider where you get your news if you think Chicago and Baltimore are "war zones." Chicago isn't even in the top 50 of US cities in murders per capita. |
how about per neighborhood? |
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+1 Having a problem with violent crime is not the same as being a "war zone." Also, how does the NG, without law enforcement training, "back up" the police? How will they "bring gun violence and car jackings under control"? What, exactly, do you think they can do? Just line the streets? Do you really want to live in a city subject to military patrols? Or do you not imagine that they will be in your neighborhood, and you're okay with turning other people's neighborhoods into occupied territory? |
And let's face it, much as I respect individual police officers I meet, on the whole, law enforcement is not doing a great job so far. We need more folks like violence interrupters, social workers, and other folks committed to addressing human needs. Spend money on improving social services rather than deploying the National Guard. |