Why can't the Nat. Guard troops be used in high crime DC neighborhoods ???

[Anonymous]

Most National Guard units have multiple combat tours behind them. My son is a Captain in the Guard. He has been overseas in heavy combat three times. As an infantry officer, he is trained to kill people. That’s not what you want in DC neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood?

I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough.

You do realize that if you're concerned about reducing community violence, Iraq is a lousy example, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood?

I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough.

I think what you would be fine with, is part-time soldiers replacing the police in other people's neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood?

I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough.

I think what you would be fine with, is part-time soldiers replacing the police in other people's neighborhoods.

Or PP is fine with it in neighborhoods where it is needed to quell violence, which may or may not be where he lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't police and aren't trained as police. They are soldiers.

Yep.
They are not law enforcement.

And let's face it, much as I respect individual police officers I meet, on the whole, law enforcement is not doing a great job so far. We need more folks like violence interrupters, social workers, and other folks committed to addressing human needs. Spend money on improving social services rather than deploying the National Guard.

I agree that other services are needed to effectively address violence. But also, maybe we could work on training law enforcement better? They are actually not that good at solving crime; maybe work on that? And while we're at it, de-escalation training, and effective community policing techniques to build connections and trust with the people they are supposed to be protecting, so that they can get better cooperation during investigations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood?

I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough.

I think what you would be fine with, is part-time soldiers replacing the police in other people's neighborhoods.

Or PP is fine with it in neighborhoods where it is needed to quell violence, which may or may not be where he lives.

You're assuming that

(a) this is what the National Guard would do
(b) only the National Guard could do that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood?

I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough.

I think what you would be fine with, is part-time soldiers replacing the police in other people's neighborhoods.

Or PP is fine with it in neighborhoods where it is needed to quell violence, which may or may not be where he lives.

You're assuming that

(a) this is what the National Guard would do
(b) only the National Guard could do that

No, I am simply responding to someone's (maybe your's) post claiming someone would only want the guard to come to "other people's neighborhoods."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most National Guard units have multiple combat tours behind them. My son is a Captain in the Guard. He has been overseas in heavy combat three times. As an infantry officer, he is trained to kill people. That’s not what you want in DC neighborhoods.

Errr, training is exactly what you want. -- military spouse

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want part time soldiers replacing the police in your neighborhood?

I would be fine with it. When we were heavily engaged in "quelling" Iraq, I often wondered why we left Chigao/Baltimore etc to be war zones. Sometimes the violence in the USA reaches emergency proportions and requires emergency measures. Yes, posse comitatus applies to the military--but the National Guard doesn't fall under posse comitatus and can be called up by the civilian authority in each state, or in DC Bowser. They could certainly be used to 'back up' the police to bring the gun violence and car jackings under control. We are already dealing with a monster virus. Enough is enough.

I think what you would be fine with, is part-time soldiers replacing the police in other people's neighborhoods.

Or PP is fine with it in neighborhoods where it is needed to quell violence, which may or may not be where he lives.

You're assuming that

(a) this is what the National Guard would do
(b) only the National Guard could do that

No, I am simply responding to someone's (maybe your's) post claiming someone would only want the guard to come to "other people's neighborhoods."

I wish they'd come to mine! Tired of the car-jackings and 3 murders we had recently. Welcome checkpoints, especially on 'get-away' roads like Western Ave. Zero issue with that - Ward 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't police and aren't trained as police. They are soldiers.

Yep.
They are not law enforcement.

And let's face it, much as I respect individual police officers I meet, on the whole, law enforcement is not doing a great job so far. We need more folks like violence interrupters, social workers, and other folks committed to addressing human needs. Spend money on improving social services rather than deploying the National Guard.

Actually, you bring up a good point! Hw many violence interrupters did Muriel Bowser send down to the Capitol on 1/6? I have been wondering...

[Anonymous]

No neighborhood in this country is so bad that it needs a military presence. I don't have to worry about IEDs going off or deal with complex ambushes when driving through SE.

[Anonymous]

As someone who lives in one of these neighborhoods OP is talking about, so many of you are missing the point entirely.

Even if it was legal to deploy the National Guard to police civilians, even if they were trained as police and not soldiers, it wouldn't do much at all to stop the violence.

They can't be everywhere at once, and they certainly can't be in people's private homes. People will just wait till their backs are turned or they're on a different block to start shooting. They'll do it in someone's house at a private party. Or they'll just keep doing it right out in the open. You think the people who go around shooting people in broad daylight care about being arrested? Talk to any of them and they'll tell you, they don't expect to make it to old age, they're going to get got by a rival crew or the cops. One guy in my neighborhood was talking about why the murder rate was increasing so much in 2020 and he said "we all know we're gonna die, we're just taking care of our beefs now so we can kill them before the 'Rona does."

10,000 or even 100,000 National Guard or cops isn't going to fix anything, the only way is to address the underlying causes - poverty, lack of education, lack of parental involvement that contribute to these situations where people have no compunctions about killing each other because they have no hope and nothing to lose.

[Anonymous]

If you want the military to be your local police force then move to a dictator-run country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No neighborhood in this country is so bad that it needs a military presence. I don't have to worry about IEDs going off or deal with complex ambushes when driving through SE.

National Guard have been called to overseas duties, but they are not active duty military. they have MANY other roles besides worrying about IEDs going off.

[Anonymous]

Sure, but only if you're OK with the national guard coming down on Tylar and Madysin when they score drugs.

Why don't we send them into suburbs where heroin is becoming an increasing problem and rural towns with meth is big?