MASTER Cancel Travel b/c of COVID-19 Questions Thread

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I am based in dc and want to go see my elderly parents in two weeks. My dad falls in the high risk category.
Thoughts?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m supposed to fly Dca to Milwaukee at the end of the month. 24 hour trip, no medical issues on my end.

Flew to Milwaukee yesterday. Completely full flight. Only saw maybe 5 people in the airport wearing masks. Milwaukee is not in a panic yet. Of course things could change.

I live in Milwaukee and a good friend of mine works in the medical field and said they (at her hospital) are predicting it to get bad here toward end of April. I’m unclear what they are basing that prediction on exactly. But we are not in a panic yet that’s for sure. But it wouldn’t be the destination I’d be most worried about anyway; it would be the airplane/airport which will have ppl from all over no matter where you are taking off from or landing...

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Anonymous wrote:I am based in dc and want to go see my elderly parents in two weeks. My dad falls in the high risk category.
Thoughts?

Of course not. Jesus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am based in dc and want to go see my elderly parents in two weeks. My dad falls in the high risk category.
Thoughts?

If your mom is over 60, so does she. Stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:I am based in dc and want to go see my elderly parents in two weeks. My dad falls in the high risk category.
Thoughts?

Why take the risk?

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Anonymous wrote:I am based in dc and want to go see my elderly parents in two weeks. My dad falls in the high risk category.
Thoughts?

Why take the risk?

How much of a risk really is it? You land with no symptoms, take a shower, and the fear is that you’ll spread it to your elderly parents when you’re asymptomatic? Aren’t you most contagious when you’re actually sick?

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Anonymous wrote:Italy just announced a NATIONAL lockdown.

Good luck to those tourists trying to get out. Hope you're ready to learn Italian and have an unlimited credit card.

Italy Virus Containment Measures Extended to Entire Country
Extension means only essential travel to, from and within all of country is allowed

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-bolsters-quarantine-checks-after-initial-lockdown-confusion-11583756737

BREAKING: All Italy is locked down, PM Conte has just announced. Everyone must remain at home. Nationwide lockdown. #COVID19

https://twitter.com/cencio4/status/1237116341011853312

God, I am so glad we cancelled our trip there.

Would you even be able to go? They are in lockdown.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m supposed to fly Dca to Milwaukee at the end of the month. 24 hour trip, no medical issues on my end.

Flew to Milwaukee yesterday. Completely full flight. Only saw maybe 5 people in the airport wearing masks. Milwaukee is not in a panic yet. Of course things could change.

I live in Milwaukee and a good friend of mine works in the medical field and said they (at her hospital) are predicting it to get bad here toward end of April. I’m unclear what they are basing that prediction on exactly. But we are not in a panic yet that’s for sure. But it wouldn’t be the destination I’d be most worried about anyway; it would be the airplane/airport which will have ppl from all over no matter where you are taking off from or landing...

My daughter is at Marquette and came home Saturday morning for spring break. She said her MKE to DCA Southwest flight was totally full and MKE was at its usual level of business. I don’t think Milwaukee is having any issues yet...partly because it’s just not a place with a ton of travel in and out of (particularly international). But we’ll see. DD wants to be lazy and lounge around the house this whole week, which I think is probably a good choice...

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the desire to prop up the stock market and the travel industry, we are deliberately being TOLD to be cavalier. If the government isn't going to incentivize people to do the right thing, then it will just be the minority of nice people doing the right thing and the majority of selfish jerks doing what they please.

Did the government ground air travel and close cruise ports? Have they banned large public gatherings? People are taking their cues from that.

Many, if not most, are more ignorant than selfish. Like you said, there is little sense of urgency from leadership.

Go back and read this thread. These are not ignorant people posting here. Don't blame on others what you yourself can control.

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Welfish

Perfect!

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Anonymous wrote:Flipping it around a bit - would you go to D.C. for spring break?

I’m headed to D.C. from London for Easter 2 upper elementary kids with me.

Don't travel internationally. Good LORD

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Anonymous wrote:Family trip to LA, San Diego, and Santa Barbara over spring break. Flying. All pretty young (DH is oldest at 45) - family trip. DS was gonna check out the UCs but I would imagine they may cancel tours. We were considering Universal but that seems like a bad idea. Should we still go? Airfare isn?t refundable but hotel is

Yes, cancel. I just cancelled during the MCPS spring break to some of those same cities. No one should be on planes or in places with large crowds. We need more information to prevent spreading this virus. You and your family may not get sick, of if you do, mildly so, but carriers are spreading this and putting vulnerable groups at risk serious illness including death. Until we have more conclusive imformation, help confine this. 9 cases in DC and that?s only detected. We just don?t have a handle on this except we sgould be washing our hands more thoroughly.

This response is really conservative. OP, if you're risk tolerance is moderate or higher, don't cancel yet. Wait and see how this develops as the date gets closer.

I am the 11:37 poster. Yes, this a conservative opinion — yet I am generally a risk taker. I am however an epidemiologist and do not have confidence in how the Admin is handling this. April is a little far out, so the poster can decide later, but I personally am not comfortable being a carrier or contracting on planes until we have more reliable data. The way to contain is not to spread. Healthy people in low-risk groups are being cavalier. They will not get sick but grandparents will. The aviation lobbies are strong. Cruise lines are generally registered in places like Liberia so there is little regulation once they are in maritime waters (if that‘s the correct term, not a lawyer). I’m generally a public transportation supporter, but this is when the AAA can step up and drive (pun intended) people to their cars and then to less crowded outdoor vacay spots.

Have to drive to MA this week. Common sense tells me to not use the NJ Turnpike stops but to go to less crowded, off the road stops. A lot of people don't have common sense.

Common sense would tell you that it doesn’t matter. It’s everywhere.

Mask, gloves, eye protection, handwashing, hand sanitizing. Don't care who think I'm a freak.

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Anonymous wrote:seriously considering cancelling my trip to los angeles for my mom's 80th. I am not worried about me or the kids, but my mom has very bad asthma. I want her to make it to 81. Once we are there, we are up in the hills, or at the beach, not in big crowds, but the chance of either bringing it with us or picking it up during travel has me worried. a week ago I was like, oh its fine. Now I'm not so sure, especially after hearing about how some of the people in the nursing home in Washington state went from first falling ill to death in a few hours.

This is why I will not visit my parents in AZ. If either get this, they will die. End of. I am not going to be the one to give it to them. If I HAD to go, I'd drive staying as far south as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think the National Parks out west will be like? Yellowstone? Grand Canyon? Yosemite? Glacier?

As of right now, we're still planning to go to Yosemite and San Fran in early April with two elementary school-aged kids. I think the parks will be okay because it's pretty easy to distance yourselves there, with the exception of meals. Even then, you can do a decent job of minimizing the risk.

Our planned trip also includes Yosemite, and I think the national parks will be fine. What gives me pause is the airport/plane ride. We won't decide until right before the trip because our plane tickets are non-refundable anyway (and lodging is refundable until a few days before). I'm hoping that in the next 2-3 weeks, we get a better idea of the situation and whether flying, even domestically, actually should be avoided or not. One parent and one kid in our family do have asthma, which we will also need to consider.

So you have two asthmatics and you are proposing taking a plane trip where you might be exposed to a virulent and deadly respiratory virus IN one of the states that is experiencing the worst of the outbreak and THEN taking your two asthmatics 2/3 hours from the nearest place where you could probably receive high quality emergency care in a health care system that is likely stressed. Yes, terrific plan.

You should probably consult with your doctor or kid's doctor. My kid's pediatrician specifically told us that due to his asthma not to travel and avoid gatherings, crowds, stores, etc.

Same. They also said if he gats sick, they are not presently prepared to handle it, and we'd have to make due with hospitals. And though the number of kids with serious illness from the virus is lower than the elderly, there were still 1400 kids in China who were in the seriously ill category. Who wants to roll that dice with your child?

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Anonymous wrote:Italy just announced a NATIONAL lockdown.

Good luck to those tourists trying to get out. Hope you're ready to learn Italian and have an unlimited credit card.

Italy Virus Containment Measures Extended to Entire Country
Extension means only essential travel to, from and within all of country is allowed

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-bolsters-quarantine-checks-after-initial-lockdown-confusion-11583756737

BREAKING: All Italy is locked down, PM Conte has just announced. Everyone must remain at home. Nationwide lockdown. #COVID19

https://twitter.com/cencio4/status/1237116341011853312

God, I am so glad we cancelled our trip there.

Would you even be able to go? They are in lockdown.

Leaving the country to get to your own probably falls under "essential", no?

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So you get there, and the airlines are hit with massive sick outs. How do you get home?