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4 out of 20 from club only seems like a lot because usually Valor places 0 out of 20.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


Not cheerleader Karen. Not everyone wants national league, and that is okay! A strong RL club with good coaches works for many (not all). Several (not all) GFR teams do well in RL. Same can be said about many clubs in the area.
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This pathway to one team per age group definitely looks more promising: Fairfax Virginia Union is a growing club built on a new and exciting partnership between Braddock Road Youth Club (BRYC), Herndon Youth Soccer (HYS), Lee Mount Vernon Sports Club (LMVSC), Virginia Valor FC (Valor), Villarreal Virginia Academy (VIVA), and Vienna Youth Soccer (VYS).

This really only works in a meaningful way as a pathway for the former BRAVE clubs and really for VYS because of the MV connection. I’ve seen zero evidence of any leg up for the new “alliance” clubs in team rosters. The rosters are public except the new u13s. Go take a look.

Joining as a minor ancillary club in that way would not be a “huge advantage” and it’s utter nonsense to say otherwise. A “pathway” can only help a club if it’s the lead or at least a major partner in the alliance.

Where does one go to check team rosters? I'm not who you were addressing. Just curious myself.
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Anonymous wrote:So tryouts have started and we got no announcement on any new alliances or pathways from PA.

And I know the "super enthusiastic" GFR mom will chime in as she always does with defense of "pathways being a gimmick" or "its only a local club" or blah blah blah whatever tows the company line.

But like Biggie said, "It was all a dream..." or maybe just a lie.


What are you even upset about? You could only be this upset if you were betting all your chips on a GFR pathway by this season (which literally no one else is doing), but if your DC is that good, just go try out at any of the neighboring ECNL or GA clubs.

It's sad that you are so bitter and sourfaced while everyone else just moves on.


The company cheerleader mom is back! If it's not a big deal then why make it a big deal at the last meeting where nearly everyone there were asking about it?


My mistake... Where does one go to check team rosters? I'm not who you were addressing. Just curious myself.
No one made a big deal about it. It wasn’t in the presentation. She was asked about it in Q&A and did her best to answer honestly while acknowledging the uncertainty about timing. She never guaranteed it would happen by a particular time nor would anyone reasonable expect something this complicated to be locked down within three months of her taking over.

If you think your DC is good enough and old enough that a pathway to a national league actually matters, much less by this year, there have been tryouts and ID sessions for several local NL and GA/MLSN teams this spring already and if it didn’t happen there it wouldn’t matter for you if there were a pathway announcement this March or not.


It has nothing to do with my DC. People are calling these lies out for the good of the club. Pathway for a club is more than just access to a national pathway, it is about giving the club some legitimacy. GFR is turning into Sterling Soccer, Villareal or Mt. Vernon. Oh wait 2 out of 3 of those clubs actually have a national pathway because they know that it's about more than simply access to a pathway. It's about growth and legitimacy for the club. But keep on spouting your lies coach, board member or whoever you are cheerleader. Your next move will be to get these posts deleted again, right?


This just proves your focus on a pathway is misguided. Two out of those three clubs “actually have a national pathway” but it hasn’t done anything for their growth or legitimacy. I’d much rather be at a club like GFR that tops out at RL without a pathway but takes development seriously and where most of the RL teams are very competitive both in their division and against some “national level” teams at tournaments.

If my DC wants to play in a “national level” league and is good enough to do so, I know perfectly well how to get that done. I don’t need some sham arrangement through the club holding my hand. Hell, on the girls side at least a good chunk of the girls on the RL teams could probably make one of the many NoVa GA teams if that’s what they wanted. And if it has nothing to do with your DC, why’s it so important to you? Bragging rights about your club? Let your kid go play soccer and stop trying to live vicariously through them.


How cute! You think making an ECNL team is based purely on merit and no politics? Wake up and smell the coffee. Arlington is full of Arlington RL kids, VDA full of VSA/PWSI RL feeders. GFR not having a pathway is absolutely a roadblock for many players.


What are you trying to accomplish here? You are arguing in absolutes ("absolutely" a roadblock). National league teams can have kids based on merit AND kids based on politics. Every national league team around here has kids from outside of their club or pathway. Take a look at all the U13 National league teams around here that just formed.


I said it was absolutely a roadblock for “many” players. There are probably only a handful of real standout kids in each age group that can walk in cold to a tryout and make an ECNL team. “Most” players need to be vouched for, need to be “seen” under the right circumstances. I am not trying to accomplish anything but simply noting that having a pathway is a huge advantage to the club and to state otherwise is utter nonsense.


This pathway to one team per age group definitely looks more promising: Fairfax Virginia Union is a growing club built on a new and exciting partnership between Braddock Road Youth Club (BRYC), Herndon Youth Soccer (HYS), Lee Mount Vernon Sports Club (LMVSC), Virginia Valor FC (Valor), Villarreal Virginia Academy (VIVA), and Vienna Youth Soccer (VYS).


This really only works in a meaningful way as a pathway for the former BRAVE clubs and really for VYS because of the MV connection. I’ve seen zero evidence of any leg up for the new “alliance” clubs in team rosters. The rosters are public except the new u13s. Go take a look.

Joining as a minor ancillary club in that way would not be a “huge advantage” and it’s utter nonsense to say otherwise. A “pathway” can only help a club if it’s the lead or at least a major partner in the alliance.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


Objectively, the Valor 14s are better than that GFR 14s (I base this off the fact that they beat them 3-1 in PreECNL in the Fall). It also seems the Valor 15s are better as well (they also won in the Fall). I think that the coaching changes that Valor has made the past couple of years in the younger age groups has been positive and the girls side is doing much better. The 16s and the 17s are also very good teams.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


Objectively, the Valor 14s are better than that GFR 14s (I base this off the fact that they beat them 3-1 in PreECNL in the Fall). It also seems the Valor 15s are better as well (they also won in the Fall). I think that the coaching changes that Valor has made the past couple of years in the younger age groups has been positive and the girls side is doing much better. The 16s and the 17s are also very good teams.


Its silly to talk about u-little teams being better or worse than each other. A 3-1 game is 100% meaningless for 7v7 or 9v9 soccer.

Valor hires crappy inexperienced coaches but pulls from two large rec leagues, so sometimes they luck into more talented athletes than usual.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


Objectively, the Valor 14s are better than that GFR 14s (I base this off the fact that they beat them 3-1 in PreECNL in the Fall). It also seems the Valor 15s are better as well (they also won in the Fall). I think that the coaching changes that Valor has made the past couple of years in the younger age groups has been positive and the girls side is doing much better. The 16s and the 17s are also very good teams.


Its silly to talk about u-little teams being better or worse than each other. A 3-1 game is 100% meaningless for 7v7 or 9v9 soccer.

Valor hires crappy inexperienced coaches but pulls from two large rec leagues, so sometimes they luck into more talented athletes than usual.


By those "objective" standards, Arlington is middle tier but we all know that's not the case at all.

Objectively, the most you can say for the age group in this league, this year, is that Richmond is clearly at the top.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.


The key word is "SOME" kids have a pathway. Cheerleader Karen, you have been arguing that if people want a NL just go out and tryout. Its so simple, its so easy. Yet, you and others know that having a coach vouch for you and open a doorway (back door in this case) is the REAL pathway and its why they chose to take it. Would all those players make it in an open tryout? We'll never know, because THEY alone (not the club) had a pathway.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.


The key word is "SOME" kids have a pathway. Cheerleader Karen, you have been arguing that if people want a NL just go out and tryout. Its so simple, its so easy. Yet, you and others know that having a coach vouch for you and open a doorway (back door in this case) is the REAL pathway and its why they chose to take it. Would all those players make it in an open tryout? We'll never know, because THEY alone (not the club) had a pathway.


DP. You sound bitter and jealous that your kid isn’t good enough for NL.
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.


The key word is "SOME" kids have a pathway. Cheerleader Karen, you have been arguing that if people want a NL just go out and tryout. Its so simple, its so easy. Yet, you and others know that having a coach vouch for you and open a doorway (back door in this case) is the REAL pathway and its why they chose to take it. Would all those players make it in an open tryout? We'll never know, because THEY alone (not the club) had a pathway.


DP. You sound bitter and jealous that your kid isn’t good enough for NL.


Sure Cheerleader Karen. Nice try. Is your kid good enough?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.


The key word is "SOME" kids have a pathway. Cheerleader Karen, you have been arguing that if people want a NL just go out and tryout. Its so simple, its so easy. Yet, you and others know that having a coach vouch for you and open a doorway (back door in this case) is the REAL pathway and its why they chose to take it. Would all those players make it in an open tryout? We'll never know, because THEY alone (not the club) had a pathway.


DP. You sound bitter and jealous that your kid isn’t good enough for NL.


Sure Cheerleader Karen. Nice try. Is your kid good enough?


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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.


The key word is "SOME" kids have a pathway. Cheerleader Karen, you have been arguing that if people want a NL just go out and tryout. Its so simple, its so easy. Yet, you and others know that having a coach vouch for you and open a doorway (back door in this case) is the REAL pathway and its why they chose to take it. Would all those players make it in an open tryout? We'll never know, because THEY alone (not the club) had a pathway.


DP. You sound bitter and jealous that your kid isn’t good enough for NL.


Not the OP-or PP- however I will say that not every child or parent wants NL- competitive RL works great for our family (However, to think that you will make an NL team by going to tryouts alone is nieve for NOVA - like or dislike- thats just not how it goes)
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Anonymous wrote:Saying four girls from valor made one team is VERY different then saying a lot of kids from valor make all the teams. And, considering how huge their rosters are, 4 on one team is not very significant.


Also, I’m pretty confident that there are 4 girls in that age group at GFR that could have made that team if it’s what they wanted, pathway or no.


We’ll see how many GFR girls get placed at BSC. Maybe your DC cheerleader Karen? Is that why you don’t care about a pathway? Because you already have your pathway set up?


People should play where they are happy. Not sure anyone wants NL. I for one think a strong RL team with a good coach is a great fit for my DD.

But I find it a bit ironic that your two main complaints seem to be (1) there needs to be a pathway for kids to a national league and (2) it’s so bad some kids at GFR have a pathway to a national league team at Bethesda. Seems more like an emotional investment in criticizing GFR than any rational concern.


The key word is "SOME" kids have a pathway. Cheerleader Karen, you have been arguing that if people want a NL just go out and tryout. Its so simple, its so easy. Yet, you and others know that having a coach vouch for you and open a doorway (back door in this case) is the REAL pathway and its why they chose to take it. Would all those players make it in an open tryout? We'll never know, because THEY alone (not the club) had a pathway.


DP. You sound bitter and jealous that your kid isn’t good enough for NL.


Sure Cheerleader Karen. Nice try. Is your kid good enough?


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