Things you secretly oppose, but don't want other people to know:

[Anonymous]

What about people who are biracial/mixed race, which race should they marry into?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. People who were born here, given the opportunity to get educated but don't. Instead they make minimum wage, give birth to several children and live on welfare. I know a couple of them.

2. People who hate successful immigrants.

Newsflash: not everyone is ambitious and find value in the same things. While I would never want to live a life on welfare, when I think of a Mom who gets govt assistance and is home to raise her children while I slave away at my desk job (to help pay back student loans) missing out on fun things, I wonder who the joke is really on?

And legal immigrants had better be successful, otherwise they wouldn't be here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about people who are biracial/mixed race, which race should they marry into?

FWIW, I oppose IR marriage.

My answer: Whoever they want. Just because I don't agree with it, doesn't mean I can/should dictate who folks can marry. The outraged folks on this thread are missing this key point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. Forgot: Immigration (illegal or otherwise).

Unless you are 100% Native American you have no business being against this

[Anonymous]

"re: your first point. You're right, we'll have to agree to disagree.

re: Identity theft. I'm talking about identity FRAUD. You're still using the wrong term, so not sure you're truly getting it. If you're too poor to come to the US to add to, rather than take from, our resources, then stay home. We don't owe all disadvantaged people a safe haven; sad, but true and trying to force this issue will only turn us into the countries these people are trying to escape. Illegals are selfish; convinced that their plight is so unique and deserved of special treatment that they can bypass the laws we have in this country re: immigration.

It's also pure luck that some folks are born into families with money. Does that mean I get to steal from them to even the score?

BTW, it's "steal" (you didn't get that either)."

This is what we keep going in circles about. No one is stealing from you (I misspelled "steal." I must be dumb as a post). Most of the illegal work for very low wages, unprotected, extremely long hours. Why? BECAUSE AMERICANS KEEP PAYING THEM. Anyone who says they are against illegal immigration is a fucking hypocrite. Stop employing these people to work for you and they'll LEAVE. See how simple that is. Instead, they come because they know they'll find jobs.

This country was founded on giving the disadvantaged people a safe haven. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;" Or does that stop with you? I guess it's all good with the world as long as you are taken care of. The buck stops with you.

Lastly, as long we don't lose sight of humanity and humility (which I am so sorry does not exists with you and on this thread) we will not turn into the countries some of us escaped. One of the harshest lessons anyone can be thought is humility, and I wish you would learn it, but I also wish you well.

[Anonymous]

13:00 - AMEN.

PP better get the actual big picture before PP opens their big mouth. Its great to be an idealist, but better to be a realist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"re: your first point. You're right, we'll have to agree to disagree.

re: Identity theft. I'm talking about identity FRAUD. You're still using the wrong term, so not sure you're truly getting it. If you're too poor to come to the US to add to, rather than take from, our resources, then stay home. We don't owe all disadvantaged people a safe haven; sad, but true and trying to force this issue will only turn us into the countries these people are trying to escape. Illegals are selfish; convinced that their plight is so unique and deserved of special treatment that they can bypass the laws we have in this country re: immigration.

It's also pure luck that some folks are born into families with money. Does that mean I get to steal from them to even the score?

BTW, it's "steal" (you didn't get that either)."

This is what we keep going in circles about. No one is stealing from you (I misspelled "steal." I must be dumb as a post). Most of the illegal work for very low wages, unprotected, extremely long hours. Why? BECAUSE AMERICANS KEEP PAYING THEM. Anyone who says they are against illegal immigration is a fucking hypocrite. Stop employing these people to work for you and they'll LEAVE. See how simple that is. Instead, they come because they know they'll find jobs.

This country was founded on giving the disadvantaged people a safe haven. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;" Or does that stop with you? I guess it's all good with the world as long as you are taken care of. The buck stops with you.

Lastly, as long we don't lose sight of humanity and humility (which I am so sorry does not exists with you and on this thread) we will not turn into the countries some of us escaped. One of the harshest lessons anyone can be thought is humility, and I wish you would learn it, but I also wish you well.

Sorry, but I remember how well folks prospered about ten years ago with blue collar jobs. Construction workers used to earn a livable wage and could support their families. With the large number of illegal immigrants in the country, wages have dropped so low that it is not a viable field anymore. Why exactly should folks take a 50% paycut for the same work (and the same risks and dangers)? This is happening over a multitude of blue collar jobs. And no I don't think education is the key. Not everyone is cut out for higher education and folks shouldn't be forced to do this because cheap assholes want to exploit illegals. FWIW, I harshly judge those who use the labor of illegal immigrants. I think they should be harshly penalized and possibly even jailed for abetting illegals.

While we were founded on the principles you listed, based on the economic climate in which we now live, it is NOT a sustainable principle. We can't just open the floodgates and take in the disadvantaged of the world. Do you not see the correlation between the terrible economy and the increase in illegal immigrants? You seem to think that illegals work to support their families without any assistance from the govt. You would be VERY wrong. They are draining our public resources and US citizens are suffering as a result.

re: humanity. If you want to talk about humanity/humility and helping those in need, look to countries in Africa and Asia. Now, THAT'S poverty. Would you suggest we take in those people as well? Proximity to the US shouldn't be a determining factor in who gets to come here and escape their downtrodden circumstances.

[Anonymous]

People, illegal immigration is currently at record lows. Take your irrational hate to a new topic.

Our country is great due to immigration! Unlike Germany and many others, we have been successful in integrating/assimilating different populations into our country. They have kept our economy going by participating and having children so we didn't have a negative birth rate (like European countries and Japan). Everyone is welcome in my world view. I am sad for the world view you hold.

[Anonymous]

This THREAD is truly horrific and an embarrassment to what is usually a funny (if razor edged snarky), insightful, clever forum. I can only hope that we have been temporarily overrun by white supremacists from Manassas and its ilk--or perhaps the repubtards on the Hill and their staffers are all playing on their phones here during the lull before sequestration storm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry, but I remember how well folks prospered about ten years ago with blue collar jobs. Construction workers used to earn a livable wage and could support their families. With the large number of illegal immigrants in the country, wages have dropped so low that it is not a viable field anymore. Why exactly should folks take a 50% paycut for the same work (and the same risks and dangers)? This is happening over a multitude of blue collar jobs. And no I don't think education is the key. Not everyone is cut out for higher education and folks shouldn't be forced to do this because cheap assholes want to exploit illegals. FWIW, I harshly judge those who use the labor of illegal immigrants. I think they should be harshly penalized and possibly even jailed for abetting illegals.

While we were founded on the principles you listed, based on the economic climate in which we now live, it is NOT a sustainable principle. We can't just open the floodgates and take in the disadvantaged of the world. Do you not see the correlation between the terrible economy and the increase in illegal immigrants? You seem to think that illegals work to support their families without any assistance from the govt. You would be VERY wrong. They are draining our public resources and US citizens are suffering as a result.

re: humanity. If you want to talk about humanity/humility and helping those in need, look to countries in Africa and Asia. Now, THAT'S poverty. Would you suggest we take in those people as well? Proximity to the US shouldn't be a determining factor in who gets to come here and escape their downtrodden circumstances.

It was due to the housing bubble collapsing, not due to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is at record lows. You're an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This THREAD is truly horrific and an embarrassment to what is usually a funny (if razor edged snarky), insightful, clever forum. I can only hope that we have been temporarily overrun by white supremacists from Manassas and its ilk--or perhaps the repubtards on the Hill and their staffers are all playing on their phones here during the lull before sequestration storm.

I know, right? It's like the wingnuts came for the Newtown discussions and never left. I blame them for the upsurge in trashy, obscenity-laced posts too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This THREAD is truly horrific and an embarrassment to what is usually a funny (if razor edged snarky), insightful, clever forum. I can only hope that we have been temporarily overrun by white supremacists from Manassas and its ilk--or perhaps the repubtards on the Hill and their staffers are all playing on their phones here during the lull before sequestration storm.

ITA! I cannot believe what is being said. It defies all logic. I wonder when the KKK got so computer literate?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This THREAD is truly horrific and an embarrassment to what is usually a funny (if razor edged snarky), insightful, clever forum. I can only hope that we have been temporarily overrun by white supremacists from Manassas and its ilk--or perhaps the repubtards on the Hill and their staffers are all playing on their phones here during the lull before sequestration storm.

Amen! I'm not even going to respond to the 14:02 idiot any more. Actually, I won't even open this despicable thread any more. It's making me gag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This THREAD is truly horrific and an embarrassment to what is usually a funny (if razor edged snarky), insightful, clever forum. I can only hope that we have been temporarily overrun by white supremacists from Manassas and its ilk--or perhaps the repubtards on the Hill and their staffers are all playing on their phones here during the lull before sequestration storm.

So on the one hand you seem dismayed by what you're reading on this thread and on the other you use nicknames that are vulgar. Looks like you are among your brethren on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Sorry, but I remember how well folks prospered about ten years ago with blue collar jobs. Construction workers used to earn a livable wage and could support their families. With the large number of illegal immigrants in the country, wages have dropped so low that it is not a viable field anymore. Why exactly should folks take a 50% paycut for the same work (and the same risks and dangers)? This is happening over a multitude of blue collar jobs. And no I don't think education is the key. Not everyone is cut out for higher education and folks shouldn't be forced to do this because cheap assholes want to exploit illegals. FWIW, I harshly judge those who use the labor of illegal immigrants. I think they should be harshly penalized and possibly even jailed for abetting illegals.

While we were founded on the principles you listed, based on the economic climate in which we now live, it is NOT a sustainable principle. We can't just open the floodgates and take in the disadvantaged of the world. Do you not see the correlation between the terrible economy and the increase in illegal immigrants? You seem to think that illegals work to support their families without any assistance from the govt. You would be VERY wrong. They are draining our public resources and US citizens are suffering as a result.

re: humanity. If you want to talk about humanity/humility and helping those in need, look to countries in Africa and Asia. Now, THAT'S poverty. Would you suggest we take in those people as well? Proximity to the US shouldn't be a determining factor in who gets to come here and escape their downtrodden circumstances.

It was due to the housing bubble collapsing, not due to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is at record lows. You're an idiot.

Says the person who can't even quote correctly.