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[Anonymous]

DD is 4.53 GPA and will graduate with 13 APs, I think (maybe 12 and a DE). She scored 1400 SAT, so slightly low. APs are all 5s and 4s for the ones taken junior and sophomore year. SHe's currently taking AP Physics, AP Calculus AB, AP Psychology, AP Lit, International Relations DE and AP Gov. Great extracurriculars. She took the in-school SAT on Sept. 23 and waiting on score. Taking SAT again this Saturday.

She's thinking about ED at William and Mary. She's talking to Brown as well, but knows full well that's a huge reach.

But also considering honors college at Christopher Newport. Meanwhile, Virginia Wesleyan is dangling the possibility of full ride at Batten Honors College. And she may apply to Washington & Lee as well to see if she gets one of THEIR full ride scholarships.

The big question is whether to shoot the moon and apply at Brown ED on Nov. 1 or take the more likely good outcome at W&M. I'm telling her W&M is the better choice in that scenario. The secondary question is W&M over a full ride at some place like Wesleyan? I think she'd do Washington & Lee over W&M if she got a full ride. But maybe not Virginia Wesleyan. I just don't know anything about their honors college.

She views Christopher Newport as a safety.

[Anonymous]

Any hooks? Intended major? Live in NOVA? Have you looked at school scattergrams? Would her coursework get the
"most rigorous" box checked by the counselor? Sorry, the SAT is low and if not all AP exams are 5s with that GPA makes me wonder about grade inflation.

Focus on recommendations and essays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD is 4.53 GPA and will graduate with 13 APs, I think (maybe 12 and a DE). She scored 1400 SAT, so slightly low. APs are all 5s and 4s for the ones taken junior and sophomore year. SHe's currently taking AP Physics, AP Calculus AB, AP Psychology, AP Lit, International Relations DE and AP Gov. Great extracurriculars. She took the in-school SAT on Sept. 23 and waiting on score. Taking SAT again this Saturday.

She's thinking about ED at William and Mary. She's talking to Brown as well, but knows full well that's a huge reach.

But also considering honors college at Christopher Newport. Meanwhile, Virginia Wesleyan is dangling the possibility of full ride at Batten Honors College. And she may apply to Washington & Lee as well to see if she gets one of THEIR full ride scholarships.

The big question is whether to shoot the moon and apply at Brown ED on Nov. 1 or take the more likely good outcome at W&M. I'm telling her W&M is the better choice in that scenario. The secondary question is W&M over a full ride at some place like Wesleyan? I think she'd do Washington & Lee over W&M if she got a full ride. But maybe not Virginia Wesleyan. I just don't know anything about their honors college.

She views Christopher Newport as a safety.

What does she want to study?

[Anonymous]

Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

[Anonymous]

W&M

That SAT will be a killer for admissions at an IVY.

[Anonymous]

A 1400 is more than slightly low for places like Brown and W&L Johnson Scholarship. It's way low. Would strongly recommend taking it again or trying the ACT.

[Anonymous]

Do you have the money for W&M?

[Anonymous]

Don't the Ivies allow ED applicants to also apply to their state school?

[Anonymous]

Did she take AP Chem or AP Bio? AP Physics 1 is more like Honors Physics as it has no calculus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD is 4.53 GPA and will graduate with 13 APs, I think (maybe 12 and a DE). She scored 1400 SAT, so slightly low. APs are all 5s and 4s for the ones taken junior and sophomore year. SHe's currently taking AP Physics, AP Calculus AB, AP Psychology, AP Lit, International Relations DE and AP Gov. Great extracurriculars. She took the in-school SAT on Sept. 23 and waiting on score. Taking SAT again this Saturday.

She's thinking about ED at William and Mary. She's talking to Brown as well, but knows full well that's a huge reach.

But also considering honors college at Christopher Newport. Meanwhile, Virginia Wesleyan is dangling the possibility of full ride at Batten Honors College. And she may apply to Washington & Lee as well to see if she gets one of THEIR full ride scholarships.

The big question is whether to shoot the moon and apply at Brown ED on Nov. 1 or take the more likely good outcome at W&M. I'm telling her W&M is the better choice in that scenario. The secondary question is W&M over a full ride at some place like Wesleyan? I think she'd do Washington & Lee over W&M if she got a full ride. But maybe not Virginia Wesleyan. I just don't know anything about their honors college.

She views Christopher Newport as a safety.

What does she want to study?

Medicine. Restorative medicine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

+1

OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did she take AP Chem or AP Bio? AP Physics 1 is more like Honors Physics as it has no calculus.

She took AP Bio sophomore year.

She took honors chem because the teacher who teaches AP is an idiot.

AP Physics is described as "mechanic." I don't know what that means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you have the money for W&M?

Yes. She has a prepaid tuition plan. Hence the focus on Virginia schools, except Brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any hooks? Intended major? Live in NOVA? Have you looked at school scattergrams? Would her coursework get the
"most rigorous" box checked by the counselor? Sorry, the SAT is low and if not all AP exams are 5s with that GPA makes me wonder about grade inflation.

Focus on recommendations and essays.

No obvious hooks except wining a major competitive world language scholarship. But she hasn't discovered the cure for cancer or anything.