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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

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OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

You need something better than "after a court decision" and "it's the wild west now" to violate the rules.

I believe this referred to poaching students generally after they've made a decision, not to breaching the ED commitment.

+1 An ED agreement is still an ED agreement. Schools can still come after you, but you won't be let out of your ED commitment to take another/better offer.

Yes, you will. That's the implication of the court decision. https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/12/16/justice-department-sues-and-settles-college-admissions-group

1. That’s not a court decision.
2. The settlement involves the contents of an ethical code for a trade organization — i.e. regulates what kind of non-compete requirements it can impose on its members. It doesn’t say anything about what requirements schools can or can’t impose on applicants.
3. OP’s kid’s credentials are not exceptional enough to induce schools to engage in bidding wars over a student already committed to another school.

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Anonymous wrote:W&L seems more of a reach than W&M, even without the scholarship angle.

+1 W&L is really hard to get into

And the Johnson full ride+ is extremely competitive and very focused on leadership. Those kids routinely get into Ivies.

I’d cast a wide net. Your kid has great credentials and applications are free at many places this year. If there’s one that stands out get good at the Net Price Calculator and if the number is digestible make an ED run at it.

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Can’t you apply ED 1 to Brown and ED 2 to William & Mary? I’d also check Naviance for W&M. I don’t think they give as much of an ED boost and you might not need it.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

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OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

Please don’t do this, OP. If you don’t like the rules, don’t go ahead and cheat — just don’t play the game (i.e., don’t apply ED). If you run the Net Price Calculator and apply ED with the understanding of what you’ll be expected to pay, you CAN decline if your daughter doesn’t get the expected financial aid from the ED school. But please don’t F around with the ED prices just because you feel like it’s “the Wild West.”

It's not "cheating." The courts have ruled that the ED arrangements were effectively anti-trust violations, I believe.

No, they have not.

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No student who would be happy at Brown will be happy at Christopher Newport (ick). This is crazy talk.

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Tell us more about people you don't know.

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Take a full ride if offered and save the money to pay for medical school.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

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OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

right, but you're still on the hook for tuition at the ED school. Your friend at the College Board (not "on." It's not actually a "board"it's a company) is wrong. Not surprising knowing what a sh*tshow that organization.

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Anonymous wrote:No student who would be happy at Brown will be happy at Christopher Newport (ick). This is crazy talk.

Tell that to my neighbors son who is going to a top medical school with undergraduate degree CNU. He loved it. My DD doesn’t want CNU- she wants a big name U but there are a lot of people who do well at regional universities. It’s who you are more than where you go.

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W&M is a match for your daughter, W&L is a reach. Brown is a long shot for even the most unique and qualified applicants.

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CNU attracts a very conservative crowd, and Brown is the opposite. Op is just showing that she and her DD know nothing about these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

+1

OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

You actually can't do that. That is why most kids like mine are waiting on RD so we can compare financial aid packages.

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Anonymous wrote:I think maybe you should reconsider doing ED anywhere, as it is a legal commitment and all the other colleges can drop applications thereafter, if you renege on the deal.

So having said that - Brown / W&M / W&L all sound like excellent opportunities. She should definitely apply RD to all of them.

^^^^ Again, This is TERRIBLE advice if Brown is your first choice and you can afford it. Also the first sentence doesn't seem to make sense.

Is English not your first language?

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When you say Virginia Wesleyan is dangling the possibility of full ride at Batten Honors College..do you mean they sent her a letter/email about it? This means nothing...they sent out thousands of them,,,they are just trying to get applications up.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply ED 1 to Brown and ED 2 to William & Mary? I’d also check Naviance for W&M. I don’t think they give as much of an ED boost and you might not need it.

This makes perfect sense if Brown is her first choice (and family is willing/able to pay for Brown), she doesn’t get Brown, and W&M is her second choice (and family is willing/able to pay for W&M). But if the applicant and her family want to choose the best offer (and cost is a factor in how they decide which offer is best), then RD (and unrestricted EA, if/where available) is the way to go.