Who did you think killed JonBenet?

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Anonymous wrote:How would someone know how to fashion a garrote? What are they used for or the knots needed for it used for?

I have no idea. Is that something that sexual predators typically use? I doubt it.

It's just weird enough to think that maybe the idea came from a book or a movie or some type of training that a person would have?

Maybe a very creative, but wacky person. Santa's wife?

Not buying that these two elderly people did this. I find it preposterous actually.

60s is not elderly. 80s, yes. Not 60s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK this is weird. This article lists evidence taken from the crime scene. Including that JB was wearing a yellow ID bracelet that had her name and the date 12-25-96 on it. Her name and date of death, on a bracelet that she was wearing.

Who gave her the bracelet?

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/ram1014k.htm

I'm pretty sure that bracelet was given to her by her parents on Christmas morning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How would someone know how to fashion a garrote? What are they used for or the knots needed for it used for?

I have no idea. Is that something that sexual predators typically use? I doubt it.

It's just weird enough to think that maybe the idea came from a book or a movie or some type of training that a person would have?

Maybe a very creative, but wacky person. Santa's wife?

Not buying that these two elderly people did this. I find it preposterous actually.

They were not elderly. They were in their 60's. They traveled to Europe. He was walking all over Boulder as Santa and NY trying to get on tv. I don't think it took a huge amount of strength to overpower a sleeping six year old.

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Anonymous wrote:When Patsy woke up the first thing she heard was John turning the water on in his bathroom. Patsy had her own bathroom but remembered the shower was still broken so decided just to throw the clothes on and put her makeup on. She was rushing.

O.k. that makes a certain amount of sense I suppose. I'm still not understanding why she put on yesterday's clothes when she had a closet full of clothes. PPs have mentioned that maybe she had a limited wardrobe because she had recently gained weight. Yet, she apparently didn't feel the need to pack much because she had a closet full of clothes at their other house....

This woman had clothes. It makes no sense that she would put old party clothes on.

She was wearing a Christmas sweater to the party. She probably wanted to wear it again on their trip. How many Christmas sweaters do you have? Probably one tops, right? Also tell me if Patsy did commit the crime in her clothes she was wearing all night, don't you think she would dispose of the clothes before the police got there, i.e. in case there was evidence on her clothes? It makes no sense to leave an outfit on that you've committed a crime in.

The point of wearing that sweater is what though? She wanted to be festive on her early morning private plane trip? She was trying to save time so she just

threw on whatever was close and that sweater was it? She was planning to visit people unshowered and in previously worn clothes from the evening before?

Or maybe she laid down in her clothes planning to get back up and prepare for the trip but wound up falling asleep and then rushing when she realized that she still had a ton to do. Or maybe she never went to bed at all.

Patsy has been pictured in more than one Christmas sweater

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How would someone know how to fashion a garrote? What are they used for or the knots needed for it used for?

I have no idea. Is that something that sexual predators typically use? I doubt it.

It's just weird enough to think that maybe the idea came from a book or a movie or some type of training that a person would have?

Maybe a very creative, but wacky person. Santa's wife?

Not buying that these two elderly people did this. I find it preposterous actually.

60s is not elderly. 80s, yes. Not 60s

The dude had had open heart surgery months before this. His body had some serious mileage on it. He had barely had his physical restrictions lifted and you think he was up to this kind of crime? No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How would someone know how to fashion a garrote? What are they used for or the knots needed for it used for?

I have no idea. Is that something that sexual predators typically use? I doubt it.

It's just weird enough to think that maybe the idea came from a book or a movie or some type of training that a person would have?

Bet it was in Mrs. Clause's play

She could have helped write the note. She used to have a column she wrote for the Daily Camera as a movie critic. The ransom not was three pages of ramblings of movie lines and then at the end it got personal showing jealousy towards John. Santa was obsessed with JB. He pretended to be this sweet Santa yet his own son spent two years in prison. Not was all as Santa wanted everyone to think it was. He got up at the funeral and rambled for 4 minutes. He told won tv show how the Tamseys "had adopted him". He was obsessed with everything about that family. He kept going on tv shows bragging about how special JB was to him. When the fingers started pointing at him he and his wife moved across the country.

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Anonymous wrote:How would someone know how to fashion a garrote? What are they used for or the knots needed for it used for?

I have no idea. Is that something that sexual predators typically use? I doubt it.

It's just weird enough to think that maybe the idea came from a book or a movie or some type of training that a person would have?

Maybe a very creative, but wacky person. Santa's wife?

Not buying that these two elderly people did this. I find it preposterous actually.

60s is not elderly. 80s, yes. Not 60s

The dude had had open heart surgery months before this. His body had some serious mileage on it. He had barely had his physical restrictions lifted and you think he was up to this kind of crime? No.

Has anyone actually seen his medical records? Does anyone actually know what type of surgery he had and when? Just because he said he had open heart surgery does not mean that is what actually was done. Did a doctor ever come forward to state this. No because they can't. Did police ever get a court order for his actual medical records. I saw online where Janet gave an interview and stated her husband had heart surgery in 1995. I wonder if that was a slip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK this is weird. This article lists evidence taken from the crime scene. Including that JB was wearing a yellow ID bracelet that had her name and the date 12-25-96 on it. Her name and date of death, on a bracelet that she was wearing.

Who gave her the bracelet?

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/ram1014k.htm

I'm pretty sure that bracelet was given to her by her parents on Christmas morning.

Ok that just seems creepy to me. Does that seem creepy to anyone else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK this is weird. This article lists evidence taken from the crime scene. Including that JB was wearing a yellow ID bracelet that had her name and the date 12-25-96 on it. Her name and date of death, on a bracelet that she was wearing.

Who gave her the bracelet?

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/ram1014k.htm

I'm pretty sure that bracelet was given to her by her parents on Christmas morning.

Ok that just seems creepy to me. Does that seem creepy to anyone else?

Not to me. My grandmother gave me a charm bracelet for Christmas one year and one of the charms had "Christmas 1981" on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK this is weird. This article lists evidence taken from the crime scene. Including that JB was wearing a yellow ID bracelet that had her name and the date 12-25-96 on it. Her name and date of death, on a bracelet that she was wearing.

Who gave her the bracelet?

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/ram1014k.htm

I'm pretty sure that bracelet was given to her by her parents on Christmas morning.

Ok that just seems creepy to me. Does that seem creepy to anyone else?

why is that creepy? Her parents gave her a little bracelet with Christmas date and year on it. It's a keepsake. Why is that weird?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.

JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.

+100 I think these were the dumbest police force ever. And criminally LAZY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He did bring duct tape, rope, and perhaps a stun gun. Those are things you would bring to kidnap someone and take them to another location. I think the killer realized he would not be able to get her out of the house. So he wrote the elaborate note and put it on the stairs to keep the parents from searching the house and because he was all worked up he could not help himself and ramble on in that crazy note and directly taunt John. He then went to the furthest corner of the house and acted out his fantasy of assaulting her and strangling her. He used the rope he brought to strangle her and grabbed the paint brush and broke it in half. He used one half on her neck and the other he assaulted her with and took it as a souvenir. I think he would have brought his own flashlight such as a big black mag light and that is what he struck her in the head with. I think the bat and flashlight found at the Ramsey home were just ordinary objects lying around their house. Any home invader breaking into a dark house would bring a flash light.

Agree. the whole thing seems like a deranged mind who is acting out a movie for his won twisted pleasure.

[Anonymous]

People with extra money buy sliced up fruit every week and never think about it again, especially around Christmas. Its not that "special"
What shows is the jealousy the police officers had towards the Ramseys. Everything they did pointed to guilt. prablby so the police could get back to their skiiing.

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Anonymous wrote:I did a google search about the pineapple and found this link:

http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/11682517/The%20Pineapple%20Evidence

I found something disturbing in the link:

"Patsy Ramsey gave Oscar-quality performances during police interviews about the murder, if you believe forensic psychiatrist Dr. Steven E. Pitt, a former consultant for the Boulder police and DA's office who scrutinized the videotaped interviews. Pitt reveals that one particular exchange 'practically made me jump out of my seat. It's the part when Patsy denied any knowledge of how pineapple got into the child's digestive tract after the family arrived home from a party. She snarled that she had put the girl right to bed and had not served her any fruit. But there was a spoon and bowl of fresh pineapple in the breakfast nook and the bowl had Patsy's fingerprints on it. Academy awards have been given for lesser performances. She was a very attractive woman, almost seductive. She knew how to work it'"

WTH does her being attractive have to do with anything? Smacks to me of bias.

What is so scary to me with the continued accusations of the Ramseys is overlooking basic forensics. ANY object in your own home is presumed to have your fingerprints on it and is discarded as important (unless its a gun) Pleats knives, forks, glasses etc -- what idiots these police were! they were members of the often wrong never in doubt group. I feel sorry for the Ramseys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People with extra money buy sliced up fruit every week and never think about it again, especially around Christmas. Its not that "special"
What shows is the jealousy the police officers had towards the Ramseys. Everything they did pointed to guilt. prablby so the police could get back to their skiiing.

Exactly. Unlike the poster who keeps a complete inventory of all the cupboards and fridge, calculating what will get used up before the trip. Rich people don't live like that.