Who did you think killed JonBenet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People with extra money buy sliced up fruit every week and never think about it again, especially around Christmas. Its not that "special"
What shows is the jealousy the police officers had towards the Ramseys. Everything they did pointed to guilt. prablby so the police could get back to their skiiing.

Also, a lot of police officers were off for the holidays so you had the tier 2 officers who had very little experience be first on the scene. That is another reason the crime scene was screwed up so terribly.

[Anonymous]

Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

The detective's name is LOU Smit, not Jim or whatever you all are calling him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Step 1 would be what are these garrote a used for? Where have they been featured? Classic books? Movies? Boy Scouts? S&M? Etc... Who uses them and for what?

Step 2 would be which injury came first? Was the garrote secondary happening after the head injury? Or was it first? Was it actually effective or just for show? Did they test it afterwards? Did they have anyone try to create one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The detective's name is LOU Smit, not Jim or whatever you all are calling him.

Lou Smit was the very experienced detective that was brought on the case later. He believed it was an intruder. The original detectives Steve Thomas and Linda A. We're the ones that messed everything up and were solely focused on the Ramseys.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Step 1 would be what are these garrote a used for? Where have they been featured? Classic books? Movies? Boy Scouts? S&M? Etc... Who uses them and for what?

Step 2 would be which injury came first? Was the garrote secondary happening after the head injury? Or was it first? Was it actually effective or just for show? Did they test it afterwards? Did they have anyone try to create one?

The autopsy said both the garotte and the whack on the head contributed to her death. It could not be proven which came first.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Step 1 would be what are these garrote a used for? Where have they been featured? Classic books? Movies? Boy Scouts? S&M? Etc... Who uses them and for what?

Step 2 would be which injury came first? Was the garrote secondary happening after the head injury? Or was it first? Was it actually effective or just for show? Did they test it afterwards? Did they have anyone try to create one?

The autopsy said both the garotte and the whack on the head contributed to her death. It could not be proven which came first.

That's not was the show said last night. They said the hit on the head came two hours (I could be off on the exact time) before the strangulation.

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Anonymous wrote:How would someone know how to fashion a garrote? What are they used for or the knots needed for it used for?

I have no idea. Is that something that sexual predators typically use? I doubt it.

It's just weird enough to think that maybe the idea came from a book or a movie or some type of training that a person would have?

Maybe a very creative, but wacky person. Santa's wife?

Not buying that these two elderly people did this. I find it preposterous actually.

60s is not elderly. 80s, yes. Not 60s

The dude had had open heart surgery months before this. His body had some serious mileage on it. He had barely had his physical restrictions lifted and you think he was up to this kind of crime? No.

Has anyone actually seen his medical records? Does anyone actually know what type of surgery he had and when? Just because he said he had open heart surgery does not mean that is what actually was done. Did a doctor ever come forward to state this. No because they can't. Did police ever get a court order for his actual medical records. I saw online where Janet gave an interview and stated her husband had heart surgery in 1995. I wonder if that was a slip.

Dude had a bypass and an aortic valve replaced. No, I have not seen the man's medical records.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Step 1 would be what are these garrote a used for? Where have they been featured? Classic books? Movies? Boy Scouts? S&M? Etc... Who uses them and for what?

Step 2 would be which injury came first? Was the garrote secondary happening after the head injury? Or was it first? Was it actually effective or just for show? Did they test it afterwards? Did they have anyone try to create one?

The autopsy said both the garotte and the whack on the head contributed to her death. It could not be proven which came first.

That's not was the show said last night. They said the hit on the head came two hours (I could be off on the exact time) before the strangulation.

That has never been proven. If you look at the crime scene photos, it looks like she was probably struggling while being strangled. Finger nail and ligature movement marks on her neck. This is what Smit and other forensic experts thought. The blow to the head probably came at the very end.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Step 1 would be what are these garrote a used for? Where have they been featured? Classic books? Movies? Boy Scouts? S&M? Etc... Who uses them and for what?

Step 2 would be which injury came first? Was the garrote secondary happening after the head injury? Or was it first? Was it actually effective or just for show? Did they test it afterwards? Did they have anyone try to create one?

The autopsy said both the garotte and the whack on the head contributed to her death. It could not be proven which came first.

That's not was the show said last night. They said the hit on the head came two hours (I could be off on the exact time) before the strangulation.

The official autopsy report was death by asphyxiation and contributed by cerebral hemorrhage. There were many "experts" claiming to know when the blow to the head came but none is official. Only the autopsy report.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Step 1 would be what are these garrote a used for? Where have they been featured? Classic books? Movies? Boy Scouts? S&M? Etc... Who uses them and for what?

Step 2 would be which injury came first? Was the garrote secondary happening after the head injury? Or was it first? Was it actually effective or just for show? Did they test it afterwards? Did they have anyone try to create one?

The autopsy said both the garotte and the whack on the head contributed to her death. It could not be proven which came first.

That's not was the show said last night. They said the hit on the head came two hours (I could be off on the exact time) before the strangulation.

That has never been proven. If you look at the crime scene photos, it looks like she was probably struggling while being strangled. Finger nail and ligature movement marks on her neck. This is what Smit and other forensic experts thought. The blow to the head probably came at the very end.

The autopsy did not conclude that those were marks from JonBenet's fingernails. That is what A&E's panel of European experts who examined the photos said and what Smit also suggested.

To my knowledge there was none of JonBenet's skin under her own fingernails and those marks on her not are not called defense wounds in the autopsy report. I would think that the medical experts who were actually at the autopsy would have noted defense wounds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The detective's name is LOU Smit, not Jim or whatever you all are calling him.

Lou Smit was the very experienced detective that was brought on the case later. He believed it was an intruder. The original detectives Steve Thomas and Linda A. We're the ones that messed everything up and were solely focused on the Ramseys.

I know all of that (her name was Linda Arndt, I believe.) Was just pointing out that his name is Lou, not Jim, as one or several people posted earlier.

[Anonymous]

I don't think that the detectives were initially focused in on the Ramseys at all. They didn't secure the crime scene. They let the Ramseys invite friends over. They left the Ramsey's and their friends alone with one female detective to wait for the ransom call. The female detective told John and his friend to walk around the house unaccompanied to see if they noticed anything out of place and that was when they found JonBenet's body in the wine cellar. THAT was when the focus shifted hard onto the Ramseys.

I don't know what the initial theory was but if the police believed that the parents were responsible for their child's disappearance they sure didn't treat them like suspects.

[Anonymous]

Has John ever said why he chose that room first and didn't search any other basement areas?

Had the parents searched the house before police were called to be sure no one was hiding in the house?