FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe for this one year because its only kids who don't care about sports.

Starting next year the demographics will be more balanced.

The second year will have all those same kids who opted in. So maybe the incoming freshman year will be different but the sophomores will be mostly opt ins.

The first year class is going to be different than the other classes, yes. But that is literally a one time thing.

Skyview is going to be a neighborhood school with about 20-25% FARMS. The majority of kids will be aiming for classes needed to attend college, which aligns with the Advanced diploma. I am not sure why this is a point of contention for some people.

It will potentially attract kids who are interested in STEM because of the pathways, just like Edison and Chantilly do. Those offerings did not make either of those schools a mini TJ, the pathways won’t make Skyview a mini TJ. It will develop its own reputation, which will probably be acadecally similar to Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

+1

No one with any semblance of intelligence cares about those rating sites.

I bet many people use school ratings as a search filter on Redfin though when looking for a home. Possible difference between Herndon HS and Woodson HS.

And those people are stupid. Great School Ratings are purely based on school demographics. When they switched to their "equity ratings" several years ago, my kids' elementary school went from a 6 to a 3 - solely based on the fact that English language learners don't do well on standardized tests that are in English. My kids did just fine, they got/are getting a great education there. Great School ratings are not at all an indicator of how well the teachers at that school teach the kids. If you're concerned about your kids being with only English speakers from so-called high achieving families, then great, use Great Schools, but it's stupid and a false rating. Everybody with any ounce of sense knows this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe for this one year because its only kids who don't care about sports.

Starting next year the demographics will be more balanced.

The second year will have all those same kids who opted in. So maybe the incoming freshman year will be different but the sophomores will be mostly opt ins.

The first year class is going to be different than the other classes, yes. But that is literally a one time thing.

Skyview is going to be a neighborhood school with about 20-25% FARMS. The majority of kids will be aiming for classes needed to attend college, which aligns with the Advanced diploma. I am not sure why this is a point of contention for some people.

It will potentially attract kids who are interested in STEM because of the pathways, just like Edison and Chantilly do. Those offerings did not make either of those schools a mini TJ, the pathways won’t make Skyview a mini TJ. It will develop its own reputation, which will probably be acadecally similar to Chantilly.

This is similar to most of the schools in FCPS. I mean, if your school of desire is Langley or Madison, then no it's not the equivalent, but every other school is the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe for this one year because its only kids who don't care about sports.

Starting next year the demographics will be more balanced.

The second year will have all those same kids who opted in. So maybe the incoming freshman year will be different but the sophomores will be mostly opt ins.

The first year class is going to be different than the other classes, yes. But that is literally a one time thing.

Skyview is going to be a neighborhood school with about 20-25% FARMS. The majority of kids will be aiming for classes needed to attend college, which aligns with the Advanced diploma. I am not sure why this is a point of contention for some people.

It will potentially attract kids who are interested in STEM because of the pathways, just like Edison and Chantilly do. Those offerings did not make either of those schools a mini TJ, the pathways won’t make Skyview a mini TJ. It will develop its own reputation, which will probably be acadecally similar to Chantilly.

This is similar to most of the schools in FCPS. I mean, if your school of desire is Langley or Madison, then no it's not the equivalent, but every other school is the same.

If every other school is the same why are all the wealthy neighborhoods pulling strings and paying bribes to stay out of Westfield?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe for this one year because its only kids who don't care about sports.

Starting next year the demographics will be more balanced.

The second year will have all those same kids who opted in. So maybe the incoming freshman year will be different but the sophomores will be mostly opt ins.

The first year class is going to be different than the other classes, yes. But that is literally a one time thing.

Skyview is going to be a neighborhood school with about 20-25% FARMS. The majority of kids will be aiming for classes needed to attend college, which aligns with the Advanced diploma. I am not sure why this is a point of contention for some people.

It will potentially attract kids who are interested in STEM because of the pathways, just like Edison and Chantilly do. Those offerings did not make either of those schools a mini TJ, the pathways won’t make Skyview a mini TJ. It will develop its own reputation, which will probably be acadecally similar to Chantilly.

This is similar to most of the schools in FCPS. I mean, if your school of desire is Langley or Madison, then no it's not the equivalent, but every other school is the same.

If every other school is the same why are all the wealthy neighborhoods pulling strings and paying bribes to stay out of Westfield?

1. It is normal to want to stay in a school you like.
2. People do not realize that Westfield is going to be losing quite a few FARMS which appears to be the big concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe for this one year because its only kids who don't care about sports.

Starting next year the demographics will be more balanced.

The second year will have all those same kids who opted in. So maybe the incoming freshman year will be different but the sophomores will be mostly opt ins.

The first year class is going to be different than the other classes, yes. But that is literally a one time thing.

Skyview is going to be a neighborhood school with about 20-25% FARMS. The majority of kids will be aiming for classes needed to attend college, which aligns with the Advanced diploma. I am not sure why this is a point of contention for some people.

It will potentially attract kids who are interested in STEM because of the pathways, just like Edison and Chantilly do. Those offerings did not make either of those schools a mini TJ, the pathways won’t make Skyview a mini TJ. It will develop its own reputation, which will probably be acadecally similar to Chantilly.

This is similar to most of the schools in FCPS. I mean, if your school of desire is Langley or Madison, then no it's not the equivalent, but every other school is the same.

If every other school is the same why are all the wealthy neighborhoods pulling strings and paying bribes to stay out of Westfield?

1. It is normal to want to stay in a school you like.
2. People do not realize that Westfield is going to be losing quite a few FARMS which appears to be the big concern.

They are also losing quite a few middle class and UMC kids, and the areas added to "replace" those kids are mostly low income. And overall, they won't have enough students to maintain AP classes and electives. There are lots of concerns Seema Dixit is ignoring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

Why are then real estate prices so different within Herndon? Newer houses within Herndon HS pyramid are priced $200-300K lower than really old houses in Herndon within Oakton HS pyramid.
Of course these ratings matter to the buyers and sellers no matter how BS they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

Why are then real estate prices so different within Herndon? Newer houses within Herndon HS pyramid are priced $200-300K lower than really old houses in Herndon within Oakton HS pyramid.
Of course these ratings matter to the buyers and sellers no matter how BS they are.

Herndon High School is not relevant to this conversation, but you knew that already. Houses in Floris zoned to Westfield cost just as much as the houses in 20171 zoned to Oakton and Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Skyview is going to end up with two high-FARMS schools, three low-FARMS schools, and perhaps part of a sixth school.

I don't think any current high school has quite this feeder pattern, but it probably puts Skyview somewhere between current Chantilly and current Centreville in terms of the FARMS rate and overall demographics.

That may not be rich enough for those expecting Skyview to be the high school version of Carson (whose demographics are skewed by the AAP population from Franklin), but it will be about average for the county and lower FARMS than Herndon or Westfield.

[Anonymous]

The western part of the county is getting poorer. Full stop.

Add in the anticipated lower income housing to Centreville, you’ll see even higher farms rates in 10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

Why are then real estate prices so different within Herndon? Newer houses within Herndon HS pyramid are priced $200-300K lower than really old houses in Herndon within Oakton HS pyramid.
Of course these ratings matter to the buyers and sellers no matter how BS they are.

Herndon High School is not relevant to this conversation, but you knew that already. Houses in Floris zoned to Westfield cost just as much as the houses in 20171 zoned to Oakton and Chantilly.

Not really. I have lived in floris before and I am familiar with it. Comparable houses in floris is definitely cheaper. It’s just that the difference is less than before because it has been a sellers market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

Why are then real estate prices so different within Herndon? Newer houses within Herndon HS pyramid are priced $200-300K lower than really old houses in Herndon within Oakton HS pyramid.
Of course these ratings matter to the buyers and sellers no matter how BS they are.

Herndon High School is not relevant to this conversation, but you knew that already. Houses in Floris zoned to Westfield cost just as much as the houses in 20171 zoned to Oakton and Chantilly.

That is not true.

Also, school ratings do not matter to parents whose children are already enrolled in schools in their own zones. They do matter to those who are newly starting or to those who are moving from outside to the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe for this one year because its only kids who don't care about sports.

Starting next year the demographics will be more balanced.

The second year will have all those same kids who opted in. So maybe the incoming freshman year will be different but the sophomores will be mostly opt ins.

The first year class is going to be different than the other classes, yes. But that is literally a one time thing.

Skyview is going to be a neighborhood school with about 20-25% FARMS. The majority of kids will be aiming for classes needed to attend college, which aligns with the Advanced diploma. I am not sure why this is a point of contention for some people.

It will potentially attract kids who are interested in STEM because of the pathways, just like Edison and Chantilly do. Those offerings did not make either of those schools a mini TJ, the pathways won’t make Skyview a mini TJ. It will develop its own reputation, which will probably be acadecally similar to Chantilly.

This is similar to most of the schools in FCPS. I mean, if your school of desire is Langley or Madison, then no it's not the equivalent, but every other school is the same.

If every other school is the same why are all the wealthy neighborhoods pulling strings and paying bribes to stay out of Westfield?

I recommend you start your own thread about Westfield instead of continuing to rant about the same thing over and over again in this thread about Skyview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

Why are then real estate prices so different within Herndon? Newer houses within Herndon HS pyramid are priced $200-300K lower than really old houses in Herndon within Oakton HS pyramid.
Of course these ratings matter to the buyers and sellers no matter how BS they are.

Herndon High School is not relevant to this conversation, but you knew that already. Houses in Floris zoned to Westfield cost just as much as the houses in 20171 zoned to Oakton and Chantilly.

Not really. I have lived in floris before and I am familiar with it. Comparable houses in floris is definitely cheaper. It’s just that the difference is less than before because it has been a sellers market.

Your experience more than 5 years ago is no longer relevant. The current market is the current market, that's what's relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview HS begins to show up on real estate sites such as Redfin, what rating will it show? Do they have to wait for a couple of years to come to a rating score out of ten?

Who cares? Those rating sites are total BS and educated people know this.

Why are then real estate prices so different within Herndon? Newer houses within Herndon HS pyramid are priced $200-300K lower than really old houses in Herndon within Oakton HS pyramid.
Of course these ratings matter to the buyers and sellers no matter how BS they are.

Herndon High School is not relevant to this conversation, but you knew that already. Houses in Floris zoned to Westfield cost just as much as the houses in 20171 zoned to Oakton and Chantilly.

That is not true.

Also, school ratings do not matter to parents whose children are already enrolled in schools in their own zones. They do matter to those who are newly starting or to those who are moving from outside to the area.

No, sweetie, Great Schools is total and complete bullshit. We've been over this already.